Is carbonneau truly the coach we need in Montreal ?

[Techman]

Who cares if he speaks French? see thats the problem with Le Canadiens! its about W I N N I N G!!!!! not what rolls off a persons tounge..... Le Canadiens have lost sight about whats the most important thing in ANY Sport, and thats winning championships at ALL costs....i repeat at ALL COSTS, im all for tradition, but what good is tradition if that tradition of "winning" ends because you have to have a french speaking coach instead of the best person for the job??

and this has nothing to do with Quebec or French ppl. i Love Montreal and Quebec in general,. especially the Women, , and i wish i knew more French, its about stupid reasons for not hiring the BEST Available coach whether thats Quinn or anyone else , silly silly silly! thats what interpreters are for are they not?

you mean to tell me if the Habs hired a non french speaking coach there would be an uproar and the fans would burn down the city? ok so what if they won the CUP with that same said NON French speaking coach? i suppose no parade? get real, the Fans would embrace him and give him the key to the city..... tradition or not....

You're not serious are you? We have a Captain who doesn't speak French and the French press and many fans have never accepted him because of that. It makes no difference that he has given his all for this team, he is always under attack because of that fact. Do you think a coach would have it any better? It's hard enough coaching in this city that you really don't want to add language problems to the situation. He doesn't have to be a French Canadian but he at least has to be able to get along in French when speaking to the press.

Just watch 110% for a couple of nights and you will see what I'm talking about.

 

[SexyNadya]

Don Cherry

don cherry.....lol

Yes and with a new dress code !!!! LOL !!!!

 

[SexyNadya]

Don Lever !

Hey, i used to golf with that guy!!!

Donny would be a very good choice if he would be chosen to coach the Habs. He's a very good coach & knows his hockey.

I agree with you Doc !!!

Since Jacques Demers everyone that got the head coaching position for
the Canadiens had very little or no NHL experience.
Don Lever is getting a second chance at the position and I strongly
beleive he will do a great job !
He brings """ loads """ of experience and much needed knowledge.

And in closing ... who gives a flying fuck if he deosn't speak
la langue de Molière !

Kisses xxxXXXxxx

 

[Techman]

I agree with you Doc !!!

Since Jacques Demers everyone that got the head coaching position for
the Canadiens had very little or no NHL experience.
Don Lever is getting a second chance at the position and I strongly
beleive he will do a great job !
He brings """ loads """ of experience and much needed knowledge.

And in closing ... who gives a flying fuck if he deosn't speak
la langue de Molière !

Kisses xxxXXXxxx

Personally, I don't care either. I just highly doubt that they would ever put a unilingual English coach behind the bench in Montreal. Part of the job includes speaking to the press and the French press here would never stop complaining about it and he would be a target from day 1. And if there's one thing this team really doesn't need, it's more off ice controversy.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I agree with you Doc !!!
Don Lever is getting a second chance at the position and I strongly
beleive he will do a great job !
He brings """ loads """ of experience and much needed knowledge.

And in closing ... who gives a flying fuck if he deosn't speak
la langue de Molière !

Lever has indeed coached at the minor league level for quite a number of years. He's as good a candidate as any other. I'm not sure what you mean by 'second chance', though. I don't believe he's ever coached in the NHL. Right now, the best billingual candidate (typical Habs coach profile) with NHL experience would be Bob Hartley, who's also won the Stanley Cup. However, i don't think he's Bob Gainey's type of coach....that is, if Gainey is still GM come next season.

I do, however, think that it is somewhat important for a market such as Montreal to have a coach who can at least speak a bit of french. Even Scotty Bowman spoke french.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Personally, I don't care either. I just highly doubt that they would ever put a unilingual English coach behind the bench in Montreal. Part of the job includes speaking to the press and the French press here would never stop complaining about it and he would be a target from day 1. And if there's one thing this team really doesn't need, it's more off ice controversy.

Quite true. I agree completely.

 

[SexyNadya]

Winning means everything !!!

Personally, I don't care either. I just highly doubt that they would ever put a unilingual English coach behind the bench in Montreal. Part of the job includes speaking to the press and the French press here would never stop complaining about it and he would be a target from day 1. And if there's one thing this team really doesn't need, it's more off ice controversy.

Hello Techman !

I'm with you Darling however ... what happened the the tradition !
The Winning tradition of the franchise ! If Ron Fournier or Jean Pagé
don't feel comfortable with this then both of them can go to hell ! !

The true Fans remember the names of Larry Robinson , Doug Harvey ,
Ken Dryden , Frank and Peter Mahovlich !!!

GO HABS GO !!!

 

[toonster]

Hey lets not forget Gainey is not some rookie GM or player, he knows his stuff and he is well respected by the players ( just read Robinson for the defence), This was not an easy call for him to make but since he made it i'm sure he knows what he is doing. I myself was shocked to see carbo go but this is the NHL and The canadiens cannot afford to miss the play off's, you could see something was not right in the organization. Besides if they did't make the play off's this year he would have been gone anyways. PS I like carbo but Gainey knows hockey better.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Hey lets not forget Gainey is not some rookie GM or player, he knows his stuff and he is well respected by the players ), This was not an easy call for him to make but since he made it i'm sure he knows what he is doing. PS I like carbo but Gainey knows hockey better.

Sure it was a hell of a tough decision for Gainey to fire one of his friends, whom he referred to this past January as being the best transaction he'd ever made for the team. However, the firing had more to do with saving his own ass (and reputation) than it was to get the team back on the winning track. The players Carbonneau was stuck with were the players Gainey had given him, and expected his coach to give them some ice time. Carbonneau never wanted Laraque. Last year, Carbonneau wanted to leave Price in the minors. Gainey forced those two players on him. Price turned out okay, but who knows where he'd be at today if he had spent another year in the minors? Laraque has been a bust all season long & i'm not surprised since almost no teams in the entire NHL wanted him. Then Gainey turned around & gave this stiff $1.5 million per year with a no-movement clause. Go figure. Gainey can't say he's not happy with the team he has since he's the one who built it. He's also the one who didn't go & get some much-needed help for Carbonneau when key players like Tanguay & Lang went down. He's also one of the rare GMs who didn't make a single transaction in trade deadline day, saying he was very satisfied with the players he had. I'll be you he wasn't even in his office on that day & had spent the day out fishing!

 

[Techman]

Sure it was a hell of a tough decision for Gainey to fire one of his friends, whom he referred to this past January as being the best transaction he'd ever made for the team. However, the firing had more to do with saving his own ass (and reputation) than it was to get the team back on the winning track. The players Carbonneau was stuck with were the players Gainey had given him, and expected his coach to give them some ice time. Carbonneau never wanted Laraque. Last year, Carbonneau wanted to leave Price in the minors. Gainey forced those two players on him. Price turned out okay, but who knows where he'd be at today if he had spent another year in the minors? Laraque has been a bust all season long & i'm not surprised since almost no teams in the entire NHL wanted him. Then Gainey turned around & gave this stiff $1.5 million per year with a no-movement clause. Go figure. Gainey can't say he's not happy with the team he has since he's the one who built it. He's also the one who didn't go & get some much-needed help for Carbonneau when key players like Tanguay & Lang went down. He's also one of the rare GMs who didn't make a single transaction in trade deadline day, saying he was very satisfied with the players he had. I'll be you he wasn't even in his office on that day & had spent the day out fishing!

And after all of that you still voted that he should not be fired if the Habs tank this season?

 

[Hypocycloid]

what about Michel Therrien, he did reach the finals last season after all?

 

[Doc Holliday]

And after all of that you still voted that he should not be fired if the Habs tank this season?

Hell no!!!!! I'm still a Leafs fan, remember?? Plus, is there anyone better than Gainey out there who's presently available??

 

[Doc Holliday]

what about Michel Therrien, he did reach the finals last season after all?

Therrien's burned his share of bridges while in Mtl & i don't believe the Habs have every been in the business of recycling coaches.

 

[joelcairo]

Therrien's burned his share of bridges while in Mtl & i don't believe the Habs have every been in the business of recycling coaches.

Right on both counts: Therrien has burned bridges everywhere he's ever been - and as for recycling coaches, the habs are not the Canes.

I think the 2 most likely candidates are Lever and then Hartley in that order.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Right on both counts: Therrien has burned bridges everywhere he's ever been - and as for recycling coaches, the habs are not the Canes.

I think the 2 most likely candidates are Lever and then Hartley in that order.

I can't argue with that. Another rumour today was that Mario Tremblay was a candidate. I find this totally ridiculous!

As for Lever, this might be a test for him to see how he communicates with the players & how much he's respected by the players. If he passes the tests, he's definitely a front-runner for the job.

As for Bob Hartley, he has all the qualifications to coach the Habs. However, the negative side of Bob Hartley is the same as Carbonneau's....communication problems with the players.

 

[Bob22]

i hope you are wrong....i hate this guy

(i follow the hockey since 2 years including this one...so i just saw him as a coach and he sucks!)

PS: tank you Techman and igna69xxx

I voted for you ! Goog luck

 

[DUMPTHEPUCK]

what the fuck

I can't argue with that. Another rumour today was that Mario Tremblay was a candidate. I find this totally ridiculous!

As for Lever, this might be a test for him to see how he communicates with the players & how much he's respected by the players. If he passes the tests, he's definitely a front-runner for the job.

As for Bob Hartley, he has all the qualifications to coach the Habs. However, the negative side of Bob Hartley is the same as Carbonneau's....communication problems with the players.

Well i hope that Mario Tremblay never comes to montreal. I can"t stand that guy. As for Lever i think he shouldn't have the problem communucating with the players, good example was yesterday seeing him come down from the press box after that horrible performance of the second period. Now the fact remains that neither Lever nor Hartley will coach the canadiens because there not FRENCH. What the fuck is up with that. We don't need a french guy to leed the team to a stanly cup, we need a leader with experience in hockey and not in eating a poutine.

my 2 cents

dtp

 

[Doc Holliday]

Now the fact remains that neither Lever nor Hartley will coach the canadiens because there not FRENCH.

Well, even though Bob Hartley has an english-sounding name, he speaks french as good as any Quebecer. He's considered a franco-ontarian (or french-canadian) & speaks english with a noticeable french accent. His wife is french-canadian also. He's from Hawkesbury, Ontario, which is on the Quebec-Ontario border. The large majority of people in Hawkesbury are francophones.

As for Lever, he may speak french. He hails from Timmins, Ontario, which is a billingual community where french is spoken as much as english. If he doesn't speak the language, he certainly must understand it very well.

 

[DUMPTHEPUCK]

Well, even though Bob Hartley has an english-sounding name, he speaks french as good as any Quebecer. He's considered a franco-ontarian (or french-canadian) & speaks english with a noticeable french accent. His wife is french-canadian also. He's from Hawkesbury, Ontario, which is on the Quebec-Ontario border. The large majority of people in Hawkesbury are francophones.

As for Lever, he may speak french. He hails from Timmins, Ontario, which is a billingual community where french is spoken as much as english. If he doesn't speak the language, he certainly must understand it very well.

thanks for the 4-1-1. but was really frustrated when i was watching anti-chambre and they were saying that they better hire a quebecer and they were even bringing up Patrick Roys and denis savards name...

dtp

 

[Techman]

Who cares where the next coach was born? As long as he has a basic knowledge of the language to speak to the press everything should be fine. Anyone who even considers Partick Roy as a head coach for the Habs is dreaming or maybe having nightmares. Maybe as goaltending coach, but not head coach.

Lever would really fit the bill, assuming he has the required French skills or is willing to take language classes in the off season, and it would be nice to see a defensive coach added to the staff. Robinson would be perfect for that position but I doubt he would accept the job. Even in that position, the pressure in Montreal might be more than he is ready or willing to handle.

Whatever happens, it looks like there are interesting times ahead once more here in Montreal.