Ladies and gentlemen, what are your pet peeves?
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I really don’t get this thing with the money upfront.
I only do incalls and after the customary hug and kisses I always put the donation on their table/ counter, along with the wine and pastries.
It really makes no difference to me and this way I know I won’t forget it in my pocket or both of us be embarrassed by her having to ask.
I have never seen an SP touch the envelope in my presence, now do they count it when I go take a shower or after I leave, I really don’t care I know I have checked it at least three times to make sure it is all there.
I only see well reviewed SP and have never had an issue or even a bad session.
I only do incalls and after the customary hug and kisses I always put the donation on their table/ counter, along with the wine and pastries.
It really makes no difference to me and this way I know I won’t forget it in my pocket or both of us be embarrassed by her having to ask.
I have never seen an SP touch the envelope in my presence, now do they count it when I go take a shower or after I leave, I really don’t care I know I have checked it at least three times to make sure it is all there.
I only see well reviewed SP and have never had an issue or even a bad session.
Fradi - Lol +1 on the I hate cabbage. Corned Beef and cabbage used to be a staple for Sunday dinner when all the old World relatives would gather at my childhood home. I hated the smell, the look, the taste, and my mother telling me how good it was for you. I have not had cabbage since leaving home and now make sure to visit the parents on the select holidays when turkey and ham is served (without cabbage.)
I won't ask but I am expecting the gentleman to leave it somewhere. There's a reason why we expect the money upfront. We want to avoid having a man run out the place without giving a donation
Wow ! Didn’t know so many where that picky about their steaks being over cooked .
I can certainly relate with Julia. My old man used to basically burn everything. :lol:
But I’m not picky one bit as I guess I got used to eating it that way aswell . Just as long as it’s not cold that’s my only requirement, otherwise you will never see me complaining to the waiter.
Let’s not forget that the older generations where taught to cook them well done for safety reasons ( E. coli +bacteria) .
I don’t know if you can call it a pet peeve but I don’t like women when they curse. I need them to be ladylike and watch their manners even though I might not mind mine at times lol
P.s On the subject of the donation I’m never fussy, as the ladies please ( before or after ) . Although I admit that when a SP never asks , but rather let’s you give it in the end is a sign of class and a sign that she trusts you enough which is always appreciated.
I can certainly relate with Julia. My old man used to basically burn everything. :lol:
But I’m not picky one bit as I guess I got used to eating it that way aswell . Just as long as it’s not cold that’s my only requirement, otherwise you will never see me complaining to the waiter.
Let’s not forget that the older generations where taught to cook them well done for safety reasons ( E. coli +bacteria) .
I don’t know if you can call it a pet peeve but I don’t like women when they curse. I need them to be ladylike and watch their manners even though I might not mind mine at times lol
P.s On the subject of the donation I’m never fussy, as the ladies please ( before or after ) . Although I admit that when a SP never asks , but rather let’s you give it in the end is a sign of class and a sign that she trusts you enough which is always appreciated.
Aaaah Fradi I so agree with you on cabbage! Cabbage is just gross it’s one of the only foods I don’t like at all. Lol
on the money upfront subject... I don’t ask because I find it awkward and I have anxiety but those who pay upfront get better service because I’m not stressed. I had a guy not pay me once after the service was done and it felt like literal rape. Something to think about - if you meet a SP for the first time and she doesn’t ask for the money upfront, it’s most likely not that she trusts you, but rather she’s too shy or anxious to ask for it and you’re really just spending an hour with a stressed girl who’s constantly wondering if you’re raping her. Now if it’s a repeat visit it’s different but you get the idea..
maximus.dickus you’re super rude. You’re here on merb where you can find reputable companions who are not going to scam you, and you pull that asshole move? If a legit lady asking to be paid before you fuck her (because it’s potentially rape until you paid, it’s only consensual with the money factor) is a turn off to the point you cancel without compensation and mess up with the girl’s livelihood when she wasn’t going to scam you in the first place, then I don’t think this activity is for you at all. We are not your girlfriend. We’re doing a job, no matter how much we like our job. If paying turns you off then find a girlfriend or jerk off, dude. Sex workers are being scammed and raped on a daily basis because they’re too scared to ask for money upfront because of review culture, and you have the audacity to be a total **** to those who have the courage to ask to be paid upfront? I could kind of half understand if you didn’t know about merb but you’re here with us on this board where you can trust the ladies that advertise here or have reviews here. Why the fuck is it such a hard thing for you to pay upfront ? To the point where you actually cancel and not pay a single dollar to compensate for being a dick? What the fuck? find another hobby or get a life or something. At the very least if you wanted to be a crybaby you could simply not repeat. But totally cancelling on the spot without compensation? Get a girlfriend. I’m serious. You’re way too awkward about paying escorts and you shouldn’t be seeing escorts in that case.
on the money upfront subject... I don’t ask because I find it awkward and I have anxiety but those who pay upfront get better service because I’m not stressed. I had a guy not pay me once after the service was done and it felt like literal rape. Something to think about - if you meet a SP for the first time and she doesn’t ask for the money upfront, it’s most likely not that she trusts you, but rather she’s too shy or anxious to ask for it and you’re really just spending an hour with a stressed girl who’s constantly wondering if you’re raping her. Now if it’s a repeat visit it’s different but you get the idea..
maximus.dickus you’re super rude. You’re here on merb where you can find reputable companions who are not going to scam you, and you pull that asshole move? If a legit lady asking to be paid before you fuck her (because it’s potentially rape until you paid, it’s only consensual with the money factor) is a turn off to the point you cancel without compensation and mess up with the girl’s livelihood when she wasn’t going to scam you in the first place, then I don’t think this activity is for you at all. We are not your girlfriend. We’re doing a job, no matter how much we like our job. If paying turns you off then find a girlfriend or jerk off, dude. Sex workers are being scammed and raped on a daily basis because they’re too scared to ask for money upfront because of review culture, and you have the audacity to be a total **** to those who have the courage to ask to be paid upfront? I could kind of half understand if you didn’t know about merb but you’re here with us on this board where you can trust the ladies that advertise here or have reviews here. Why the fuck is it such a hard thing for you to pay upfront ? To the point where you actually cancel and not pay a single dollar to compensate for being a dick? What the fuck? find another hobby or get a life or something. At the very least if you wanted to be a crybaby you could simply not repeat. But totally cancelling on the spot without compensation? Get a girlfriend. I’m serious. You’re way too awkward about paying escorts and you shouldn’t be seeing escorts in that case.
Talk about being super rude... You just bullied the shit out of the dude and ripped him a new one for free lol.
Your point and frustration is valid when it concerns well-reviewed and legit SPs like yourself and Adèle, to which most would agree with you that there should not be an issue in paying in advance, especially given your reputations as providers. In your case it's very easy to convince the dude to pay in advance. Just tell him to read the reviews or show him your reviews and he should instantly be comfortable paying in advance or at least putting the envelope somewhere you can see it.
What about when we TOFTT? When we go on humpchies, annonce123, annonceintime, leolist, etc and see non reviewed girls who do not advertise on merb? Do you have any idea how many girls out there are scammers who take our money and ask us to leave, threaten us, or straight up refuses to provide the agreed upon service? How come you don't look at it from the client's perspective also? When a client gets ripped off more than once with scammers he also has to take precautions in order to protect his hard earned money. Do not get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's not risky for the girl but I'm hoping that you can see that it can also be risky for the guy and hopefully you can understand why some guys can refuse to pay upfront when seeing "unknown" indies who only advertises on these sites where anyone can post an ad. Humpchies now has a comment section and I can see that there are alot of girls who make the clients pay in advance and rip them off in various ways. Sure, some comments are just competitors trying to destroy the girls reputation but many are real also.
There is risk involved for both parties:
When girls do not ask for the money upfront, you are right, the girls risk not getting paid after the encounter
When the guys pay upfront, they risk not getting the actual service, getting caught by LE, being kicked out and threatened (yes this happens more than one would think)
You're probably going to say that guys should only stick to reputable agencies, well reviewed indies, merb advertisers, etc. Sure, but a lot of guys prefer to look TOFTT and browse these sites and find girls on their own and in doing so they learn to take some precautions, including not paying in advance due to bad past experiences. Many well reviewed girls don't even know about merb and only got discovered thanks to us guys who decide to take a risk on these sites.
Personally, I always deposit the envelope on the night stand as soon as soon as we get to the provider’s room as I understand that it makes things much more comfortable and totally understand how in can be a huge stress factors. I really get it. I also want to avoid any awkwardness and want to avoid being asked for the donation so I make sure to quickly deposit it in advance. I'm personally willing to take the risk of losing the money to having a so-so encounter because the girl is anxious or afraid of not getting paid. Je comprends 100%. I'm also fairly good at sizing how the encounter will go within the first few seconds of meeting each other and have developed some tricks to avoid scammers, however I can totally understand that some dudes out there have also been robbed and want to take certain security precautions themselves.
You can disagree with this approach, but you can still be somewhat empathetic about it and recognize that there is risk involved on both ends when seeing girls that are not reviewed. This does not give you the right to insult people and be a bully.
In a perfect world, there should be some level of mutual trust and we should place the envelope somewhere where the girl can see it and hope that she doesn't attend do it until after the session. But we don't live in a perfect world and I totally get that both parties are just trying to lookout for themselves and it can be awkward and can cause issues.
Your point and frustration is valid when it concerns well-reviewed and legit SPs like yourself and Adèle, to which most would agree with you that there should not be an issue in paying in advance, especially given your reputations as providers. In your case it's very easy to convince the dude to pay in advance. Just tell him to read the reviews or show him your reviews and he should instantly be comfortable paying in advance or at least putting the envelope somewhere you can see it.
What about when we TOFTT? When we go on humpchies, annonce123, annonceintime, leolist, etc and see non reviewed girls who do not advertise on merb? Do you have any idea how many girls out there are scammers who take our money and ask us to leave, threaten us, or straight up refuses to provide the agreed upon service? How come you don't look at it from the client's perspective also? When a client gets ripped off more than once with scammers he also has to take precautions in order to protect his hard earned money. Do not get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's not risky for the girl but I'm hoping that you can see that it can also be risky for the guy and hopefully you can understand why some guys can refuse to pay upfront when seeing "unknown" indies who only advertises on these sites where anyone can post an ad. Humpchies now has a comment section and I can see that there are alot of girls who make the clients pay in advance and rip them off in various ways. Sure, some comments are just competitors trying to destroy the girls reputation but many are real also.
There is risk involved for both parties:
When girls do not ask for the money upfront, you are right, the girls risk not getting paid after the encounter
When the guys pay upfront, they risk not getting the actual service, getting caught by LE, being kicked out and threatened (yes this happens more than one would think)
You're probably going to say that guys should only stick to reputable agencies, well reviewed indies, merb advertisers, etc. Sure, but a lot of guys prefer to look TOFTT and browse these sites and find girls on their own and in doing so they learn to take some precautions, including not paying in advance due to bad past experiences. Many well reviewed girls don't even know about merb and only got discovered thanks to us guys who decide to take a risk on these sites.
Personally, I always deposit the envelope on the night stand as soon as soon as we get to the provider’s room as I understand that it makes things much more comfortable and totally understand how in can be a huge stress factors. I really get it. I also want to avoid any awkwardness and want to avoid being asked for the donation so I make sure to quickly deposit it in advance. I'm personally willing to take the risk of losing the money to having a so-so encounter because the girl is anxious or afraid of not getting paid. Je comprends 100%. I'm also fairly good at sizing how the encounter will go within the first few seconds of meeting each other and have developed some tricks to avoid scammers, however I can totally understand that some dudes out there have also been robbed and want to take certain security precautions themselves.
You can disagree with this approach, but you can still be somewhat empathetic about it and recognize that there is risk involved on both ends when seeing girls that are not reviewed. This does not give you the right to insult people and be a bully.
In a perfect world, there should be some level of mutual trust and we should place the envelope somewhere where the girl can see it and hope that she doesn't attend do it until after the session. But we don't live in a perfect world and I totally get that both parties are just trying to lookout for themselves and it can be awkward and can cause issues.
Gosh, in Montreal, I don't think I ever paid before the service. I was of the opinion that everyone paid after the session in Montreal. I am not opposed to leaving an envelope on the nightstand etc. (it is usually in a draw already counted out anyway). I open the drawer and hand the girl the money as she is about to leave.
It is this way in FKK land as well. The girl follows you to the lockers. I kind of like it this way. It makes it feel more like a real date.
It is this way in FKK land as well. The girl follows you to the lockers. I kind of like it this way. It makes it feel more like a real date.
That would make sense if you mainly see reputable agencies or merb advertisers which i presume most merbists who are active here do. When you venture into the dark world of humpchies, annonceintime and annonce123 you're in the jungle where anything can happen lol.
One of my pet peeves is when when she squeezes my balls too hard that it actually hurts. In their defense I think my balls are more sensitive than most guys.
One of my pet peeves is when when she squeezes my balls too hard that it actually hurts. In their defense I think my balls are more sensitive than most guys.
My pet peeve is the following:
I get to a hobby destination in Canada or elsewhere. It doesn't happen enough but I'm there and I have three days maybe to hobby. I log into MERB just prior to the trip and I decide to look at a few indies. I see this gorgeous unbelievable looking girl. I never met her but I want to see her. She costs 100$/hour more but she looks like she is worth it. So I make time for her in my schedule. I don't book an agency girl that day - I book the too good to be true Indy. We are talking by PM and e-mail and text. I get in and I text her my room number. I go out to buy wine. I buy expensive champagne instead because this is a special date and I buy the glass too. I get back to my place and I get a note. "I have to cancel because I'm going to Toronto tomorrow and I have to get up really early and I need my sleep."
Or the other one was "I got in a car accident on the way over" This was in Montreal. Another "I got in an accident on the way over" This was in Dallas FtWorth. Note* I did see her the next day and she was lying to me. I know this because when I said "How's your car" she went blank and said "huh?" I said "You know the accident?" Oh yeah... I would of preferred that she said "Well the drive from Ft Worth to Dallas was too long and I didn't realize it when I said 'Sure. How about 8PM? OK it's a date.'"
Then there was the indy that called me and said she got pulled over by the cops and was driving on a suspended license and then there was the indy that I called to confirm the morning of and she said OK and I made a 60$ Uber ride to the corner she told me to make the 2nd call from. I got there and she texted me the following: "I'm having a bad day and something happened that upset me and I can't meet you." Well that made two of us having a bad day. And there was another in Vegas that just didn't show up and didn't bother to call and make up a lie. There were two others. One ghosted me and then called me last minute. When she didn't answer my texts and e-mails for two days after I arrived I got smart and called Eleganza.
I feel like the indy is Lucy holding a football for Charlie Brown and I'm Charlie Brown. Come on Charlie Brown. Kick the football.
I've had great luck with Indies that I've met at the parties before hand or ones that fellow Merbites had recommended that I see. Reliability is the most important criteria for me. Otherwise, I'll stick with agencies.
I get to a hobby destination in Canada or elsewhere. It doesn't happen enough but I'm there and I have three days maybe to hobby. I log into MERB just prior to the trip and I decide to look at a few indies. I see this gorgeous unbelievable looking girl. I never met her but I want to see her. She costs 100$/hour more but she looks like she is worth it. So I make time for her in my schedule. I don't book an agency girl that day - I book the too good to be true Indy. We are talking by PM and e-mail and text. I get in and I text her my room number. I go out to buy wine. I buy expensive champagne instead because this is a special date and I buy the glass too. I get back to my place and I get a note. "I have to cancel because I'm going to Toronto tomorrow and I have to get up really early and I need my sleep."
Or the other one was "I got in a car accident on the way over" This was in Montreal. Another "I got in an accident on the way over" This was in Dallas FtWorth. Note* I did see her the next day and she was lying to me. I know this because when I said "How's your car" she went blank and said "huh?" I said "You know the accident?" Oh yeah... I would of preferred that she said "Well the drive from Ft Worth to Dallas was too long and I didn't realize it when I said 'Sure. How about 8PM? OK it's a date.'"
Then there was the indy that called me and said she got pulled over by the cops and was driving on a suspended license and then there was the indy that I called to confirm the morning of and she said OK and I made a 60$ Uber ride to the corner she told me to make the 2nd call from. I got there and she texted me the following: "I'm having a bad day and something happened that upset me and I can't meet you." Well that made two of us having a bad day. And there was another in Vegas that just didn't show up and didn't bother to call and make up a lie. There were two others. One ghosted me and then called me last minute. When she didn't answer my texts and e-mails for two days after I arrived I got smart and called Eleganza.
I feel like the indy is Lucy holding a football for Charlie Brown and I'm Charlie Brown. Come on Charlie Brown. Kick the football.
I've had great luck with Indies that I've met at the parties before hand or ones that fellow Merbites had recommended that I see. Reliability is the most important criteria for me. Otherwise, I'll stick with agencies.
I have to say I’m really surprised by Julia Sky’s comment to maximus.dickus. Julia, you’re honestly saying that a client who hasn’t paid you in advance raped you? Then it’s no longer rape if he pays after the service is complete? Seems like a double standard. Are clients being raped when sp’s don’t provide adequate service? It’s definitely a violation but calling it rape seems extreme. Most of you ladies charge more than neurosurgeons & many lawyers make in hourly wages, so it’s understandable that some people become overly cautious after a few bad experiences. Even with reviews, there’s no guarantee that you’re going to have the same experience as others have. I don’t mind paying in advance myself but can see where some might. Like laid_back_alex said, try to see things from a clients perspective also.
@suikoden_45 & @2fast2slow, I totally agree. An sp asking you to cum is the worst, it’s like asking if you’re finished yet.
@suikoden_45 & @2fast2slow, I totally agree. An sp asking you to cum is the worst, it’s like asking if you’re finished yet.
Actually I am not bothered by Julia 's comment in the slightest. I am surprised that some of you seem to have a problem paying upfront. I usually pay upfront so I can put the girl's mind at ease and get the finances out of the way quickly so we can focus on the fun stuff with minimal awkwardness. Plus if Julia says she has anxiety, which is a legitimate condition, I don't think it's too much to ask to give this lovely lady some peace of mind. Yes I realize this is getting a little off the topic of this thread. Btw I don't have a problem with well-done steak either.
Not paying an escort is 100% rape. Her consent was contingent on you paying her. If you told her you were not going to pay, you never would have been allowed to touch her. While it might not be a prosecutable crime in some jurisdictions, rape by deception is recognized criminal offense in some north american jurisdictions. Whether or not it constitutes a crime or not in Montreal, it is without a doubt the scummiest possible thing a guy can do and labeling it as rape is 100% appropriate in my opinion.
I think Julia was trying to say this: If the guy insists on paying after the session and the girl allows it and he ends up not paying and leaving = rape
@Bbw hunter, my comment is about her reaction & the fact that she used the term rape so loosely. Maybe you don’t mind well done steak, but you probably don’t like it raw.
@laid_back_alex, I call that being ripped off, robed or violated, not raped. No disrespect to Julia or anyone else.
@laid_back_alex, I call that being ripped off, robed or violated, not raped. No disrespect to Julia or anyone else.
Fair Enough Ian but relax buddy haha. I was not addressing you directly just saying I can see Julia's point.
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