I stated the facts - it was not a rant or an attack, but was a warning to the guy. He does not have to listen nor do you. You guys think you know more than I do. Good luck with your knowledge and attitude and hope it proves as superior as you think. Maybe he is just twisted, maybe he ends up on a banned list. Time will tell and I could care less what happens because I told it like it actually is and no other way.
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I stated the facts - it was not a rant or an attack, but was a warning to the guy. He does not have to listen nor do you. You guys think you know more than I do. Good luck with your knowledge and attitude and hope it proves as superior as you think. Maybe he is just twisted, maybe he ends up on a banned list. Time will tell and I could care less what happens because I told it like it actually is and no other way.
Dude he said in his own initial post that he was twisted:
Are you following the thread at all? I did not call the guy an asshole and his words spoke for themselves. I quoted the guy, he said he wanted to take the girl out of the business. Please tell us who gives him the right to make that decision? That is not judgmental? Are you even reading this thread??????????
Dude, you need serious help, in a big way. Your ego is so out of control that you are obfuscated when actual facts are posted. Get a life, please. You do not belong posting on this board. Not sure what board you should be on but not this one. This board is for people who want to be clients, not people who want to remove girls from the business.
I don't consider myself a guru of anything, don't crave anyone's acceptance (least of all yours) but I am frankly annoyed by how ignorant your posts are. I simply called it like I saw it. I warned the guy about something that is considered a very serious transgression by the agency if it ever got back to the one employing the girl he was talking about. Fact, guys his age have been banned for trying to remove girls from the business. Fact, I tried to warn the guy that this is how the agency would see it if he said this stuff to the girl ("I wanna take you out of this") and she went back to her agency with it. Guys whose heads are "twisted" (by their own admission) do not think clearly and need someone else to do so. He doesn't need to see the clarity, nor do you. You can learn the hard way. I could care less what you think you know. My opinion is that you know far less than almost anyone on this board and you would be the absolute last person I would tell him to listen to. People I would tell him to listen to besides the other senior posters who already posted and whom I echoed, are too many to name, and many of them could have posted the same things I did. I happen to be here tonight, nothing more than that. And I happen to have some experience seeing how these issues have shaken out in the past.
There is a phrase "catching someone on the rebound".
Anyone who has just ended a relationship, especially a long one, is going to be hurting. They are used to having a companion and feel lonely. This impairs their judgement severely. They are so eager to replace the partner they will overlook obvious flaws in a potential replacement.
I have seen this happen to friends of mine in real life. It even happened to my sister. Her husband dumped her, she was lonely and vulnerable, and ended up with a real jerk. A good friend got dumped by his gf and took in a university student hottie. She was a total bitch, everyone told him she was using him, but he refused to see it. After putting her through med school she dumped him and took off to the US. Meanwhile he went bankrupt over her tuition.
Raw, I think you need to take a few months at least to get over your old relationship. You are a thoughtful guy. Think about how many relationships with a 39 year old guy and a 20 year old girl last. You are wanting to settle down, she wants to sow her wild oats.
Just the fact that you had to ask about it suggests you know it is not going to work.
Good luck, whatever you decide.
About 10 days ago I was feeling bored and frustrated with the limited opportunities for paid companionship that the area where I live offers, so I decided to try Seeking Arrangement again (I had tried a paid membership for one month about a year ago and I had no luck with it).
I kept my my expectations low and decided to try a more focused search strategy than what I used the last time. This time I decided to focus on the MILF type. It seems like most of the ladies on SA are younger and the good looking ones seem to have very high financial expectations.I think many are wildly unrealistic in their expectations and are on the site mainly for the attention they attract and the thrill of flirting with the millionaires that they imagine would be interested in them.
To my surprise I made contact and chatted with two promising candidates, both about 40 years old, divorced and attractive MILF types. Both have a couple kids who spend some of their time with them so both were looking for someone who, if things progressed to the next level, could host a “home game” (which is my preference anyway).
Things moved fast with candidate number 1, who is blonde, pretty, works in sales, college educated, and has some nice feminine curves. After we chatted online, including her revealing her very reasonable financial expectations, we agreed to meet for coffee. We met and hit it off well.
I was very attracted to her and was ready to invite her back to my place the same day. But I didn’t want to seem too eager so we set up a late afternoon meeting at my place for three days later. Our intimate encounter went very well from my perspective and she seemed pleased with it also. All things considered she is a better option than any escort whom I have met in my area in the last couple years. I hope we can keep the relationship going on a regular basis, but we will have to see whether it continues to be mutually satisfying. All I can say for sure is that it was a good start.
i haven’t met candidate number 2 in person yet but we have a get-to-know you meeting tentatively scheduled for next week. I know her real name already and she knows mine so there is already a certain level of trust and interest. I don’t yet know what her financial expectations are (beyond “negotiable”) but if they are reasonable then I will certainly propose a “home game” with her.
So my previous skepticism about SA has been tempered by these two recent good experiences. We will see where it goes from here.
I kept my my expectations low and decided to try a more focused search strategy than what I used the last time. This time I decided to focus on the MILF type. It seems like most of the ladies on SA are younger and the good looking ones seem to have very high financial expectations.I think many are wildly unrealistic in their expectations and are on the site mainly for the attention they attract and the thrill of flirting with the millionaires that they imagine would be interested in them.
To my surprise I made contact and chatted with two promising candidates, both about 40 years old, divorced and attractive MILF types. Both have a couple kids who spend some of their time with them so both were looking for someone who, if things progressed to the next level, could host a “home game” (which is my preference anyway).
Things moved fast with candidate number 1, who is blonde, pretty, works in sales, college educated, and has some nice feminine curves. After we chatted online, including her revealing her very reasonable financial expectations, we agreed to meet for coffee. We met and hit it off well.
I was very attracted to her and was ready to invite her back to my place the same day. But I didn’t want to seem too eager so we set up a late afternoon meeting at my place for three days later. Our intimate encounter went very well from my perspective and she seemed pleased with it also. All things considered she is a better option than any escort whom I have met in my area in the last couple years. I hope we can keep the relationship going on a regular basis, but we will have to see whether it continues to be mutually satisfying. All I can say for sure is that it was a good start.
i haven’t met candidate number 2 in person yet but we have a get-to-know you meeting tentatively scheduled for next week. I know her real name already and she knows mine so there is already a certain level of trust and interest. I don’t yet know what her financial expectations are (beyond “negotiable”) but if they are reasonable then I will certainly propose a “home game” with her.
So my previous skepticism about SA has been tempered by these two recent good experiences. We will see where it goes from here.
CR,
If you are looking to tap into MILFs I think you will be pleasantly surprised if you screen their financial expectations. They simply don't have as much demand on SA as do the true "Sugar Babies." By definition a woman in her 40s is no baby and chances of success assuming pre-approval of what she expects financially are probably pretty good. My only reservation with such MILFs is they often carry baggage from failed marriages, other failed relationships, the pressure of child rearing, and job/financial problems. Hopefully, that baggage doesn't surface on you, but be wary of it. Part of the appeal of younger women, besides the physical aspect, is they all have clean and unsullied slates (and attitudes), that have not yet been burdened by the rigors of adult responsibility.
If you are looking to tap into MILFs I think you will be pleasantly surprised if you screen their financial expectations. They simply don't have as much demand on SA as do the true "Sugar Babies." By definition a woman in her 40s is no baby and chances of success assuming pre-approval of what she expects financially are probably pretty good. My only reservation with such MILFs is they often carry baggage from failed marriages, other failed relationships, the pressure of child rearing, and job/financial problems. Hopefully, that baggage doesn't surface on you, but be wary of it. Part of the appeal of younger women, besides the physical aspect, is they all have clean and unsullied slates (and attitudes), that have not yet been burdened by the rigors of adult responsibility.
EB
Some people may call experience what you say is baggage. As much as I really enjoy my current relationship with my sb, I feel sometimes she lacks a bit of it. I guess each age bring their pluses and minuses...
Some people may call experience what you say is baggage. As much as I really enjoy my current relationship with my sb, I feel sometimes she lacks a bit of it. I guess each age bring their pluses and minuses...
I can't tell you, after all our conversations about my success, how delighted I was to read this, Louis. Frankly, I don't understand why someone would come to SA seeking an arrangement with a 20 year old. If you're going the "arrangement" route, you're going to want to spend significant time with this person and it's a rare 20 year old who will hold your interest long term. There are plenty of attractive, intelligent women well into their 40s.
How old is your girl, Curly? Mine just turned 32. I don't think this age has anything but pluses.
Raw - I am going to give you different advice. I say go for it. What do I know about love and your situation with this girl? Just like EB and everyone else on this board, not a damn thing.
I envy you. This hobby was a lot more fun back in the day when I fell in love with each and every escort I sessioned with. It is now a rare occurrence when I can have such a connection. Not impossible but rare. I am too practical and rational. That is what age does to you...it really sucks.
There was a girl in Rio many years ago that I absolutely fell head over heels for....After I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity, I ran like hell. Later, I had misgivings about walking away and I would contact her from time to time but she had moved on. It could have been a lot of fun but it would have cost me a lot. Special K from this board helped to talk me out of this one...or at least consoled me. However, if I had nothing else going on I would have liked to pursue this one a bit more. It would have been a hell of a ride.
Watch my Thai bride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=055-H5rcp_I
I watched this a long time ago. This is sobering. Watch the entire thing. I think this is the right link. If not find it and watch it. You need to approach this with two loaded guns drawn. It could work out. It has in the past but chances are it won't but many relationships are like that anyways...so good luck.
Rumple, younger than that.... she's ant undergrad student to give you an idea. I love her candid energy and sense of fun and humor, her "I'll try everything once" attitude and her genuine drive and ambition. And she does have maturity above and beyond what I've seen in most young women that age (and I've taught undergrad courses for 15 years). But you can't fake experience, that maturity that comes from challenges, hardships and scars of life. But get met right here, if this was what's most important to me, I would have been looking for that instead. However there is enough in common between us to keep things interesting during the time we spend together.
As for relationship duration, it's been a little over a year now and no end in sight so far. I'm not kidding myself, it's not love and I'm not her boyfriend. However, during a whole year of dating at least twice a week, enough situations arise to test the genuineness or reciprocity of this affection we share. That's good enough for me. I'm not looking for a 10 years relationship, although if it lasts that long and it is happy all along then it's all good. But honestly I doubt it, she's going to want to move on at some point. And that's quite fine. I've stayed in touch with my former two SBs and they're still very good friends, even though the arrangement has been over for many years. We still do drinks once in a while and one of them even paid me dinner recently! That kind of sincere connection is what I'm looking for.
As for relationship duration, it's been a little over a year now and no end in sight so far. I'm not kidding myself, it's not love and I'm not her boyfriend. However, during a whole year of dating at least twice a week, enough situations arise to test the genuineness or reciprocity of this affection we share. That's good enough for me. I'm not looking for a 10 years relationship, although if it lasts that long and it is happy all along then it's all good. But honestly I doubt it, she's going to want to move on at some point. And that's quite fine. I've stayed in touch with my former two SBs and they're still very good friends, even though the arrangement has been over for many years. We still do drinks once in a while and one of them even paid me dinner recently! That kind of sincere connection is what I'm looking for.
Good friend of mine recently divorced and starting to enjoy his freedom after several decades of marriage. He's never involved in P4P before but has enjoyed my stories of the wonderful times my lover and I are enjoying. So he signed on to SeekingArrangement for a month, met a 40 year old artist (he's 60) and they've been meeting and enjoying each other's company both indoors and out for the last couple of months. So far a much lighter arrangement than I've got, but I think that's how he likes it. All I can tell you is that every time I ask him how it's going, his face just lights up.
As for me 'n' my sweetie, we're off to New Orleans for the week tomorrow. Traveling with her has been a ball. Berlin/Prague, New York, Nova Scotia, several more trips in the planning. Retirement is tough, I tellya.
As for me 'n' my sweetie, we're off to New Orleans for the week tomorrow. Traveling with her has been a ball. Berlin/Prague, New York, Nova Scotia, several more trips in the planning. Retirement is tough, I tellya.
My experience on SA has been too good to be true. Initially I was sceptical so just made my profile and did not pay so I could see the profiles and like them but could not read any messages. Within a week I had 65 messages so I decided to pay and become a member. I was a member for only 1 month and I have deleted my profile now. The reason being I am in touch with 35 beautiful women on Snapchat and emails. From 18 year old Mcgill student from Boston, manager of a bell store to 29 year old HR Manager of a big company. I have had intimate meetings with 8 of them already, For $200 to $300, you can spend the entire evening with them. No more 1 hour in and out by the clock. I havn’t seen an escort for 2 months now and I don’t see myself going that route in the near future.
I have been seeing a lady I met on SA regularly since June. We have a cool arrangement: I meet her platonically for brunches and dinners and only pay her for the intimate dates. Has worked out well and I am very happy with her. Although she is the primary women in my life I do see others. I am not married to her, and technically a free agent and I use my free agent status as I can. I am taking her to NYC for an overnight next week and Montreal trip may also happen as she has expressed a desire to see Montreal.
Here's a quick update on my experience with SA. I followed up my first encounter with the blond MILF with a lunch date and a second encounter. The second encounter went well, but it left me feeling a bit less enthusiastic about her than I had felt at first. I have stayed in touch with her and would consider seeing her again but I decided to meet other ladies.
My initial get-to-know-you meeting with candidate number 2, a 30ish MILF (and single mom) went well and a few days later we had a nice encounter. I felt that I clicked with her better than the first candidate. Her performance was more GFE than quite a few escorts I have known. I have stayed in touch with her but she seems to have a busy life and so we have not yet had a 2nd meeting.
My subscription had lapsed after one month, but I renewed it about a week ago. I had had good luck with the single-mom MILF types so I focused my new search on that demographic again. This time I connected with a very attractive Latina single mom. We met for lunch and clicked pretty well but she didn't commit to an encounter. I didn't hear from her for a few days but this weekend she contacted me and we came to an agreement for an initial encounter. Based on her looks, I am more interested in her than the previous two candidates. Her looks would easily qualify her for an assignment with a top Montreal agency. We have set a day and time for our get-to-know-you-better meeting later this week. If that goes well, then we'll see where it leads.
My initial get-to-know-you meeting with candidate number 2, a 30ish MILF (and single mom) went well and a few days later we had a nice encounter. I felt that I clicked with her better than the first candidate. Her performance was more GFE than quite a few escorts I have known. I have stayed in touch with her but she seems to have a busy life and so we have not yet had a 2nd meeting.
My subscription had lapsed after one month, but I renewed it about a week ago. I had had good luck with the single-mom MILF types so I focused my new search on that demographic again. This time I connected with a very attractive Latina single mom. We met for lunch and clicked pretty well but she didn't commit to an encounter. I didn't hear from her for a few days but this weekend she contacted me and we came to an agreement for an initial encounter. Based on her looks, I am more interested in her than the previous two candidates. Her looks would easily qualify her for an assignment with a top Montreal agency. We have set a day and time for our get-to-know-you-better meeting later this week. If that goes well, then we'll see where it leads.
I met the very attractive single mom Latina that I referred to in my previous post for a private encounter and it went great, even better than my expectation. We're already talking about our next meeting.
I now agree with Napoleon who supposedly once said: "In war, as in prostitution, amateurs are often better than professionals."
I now agree with Napoleon who supposedly once said: "In war, as in prostitution, amateurs are often better than professionals."
I met the very attractive single mom Latina
I now agree with Napoleon who supposedly once said: "In war, as in prostitution, amateurs are often better than professionals."
One of my favorite all time quotes. Ahh, I love Latinas. Good luck Capt.
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