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No- just a former paid member, although on and off for 8 years. Perhaps the discount is based on money spent over time on membership fees. But I posted the discount offered above and the email speaks for itself- 33% off:
I think there should be a separate "Seeking Arranngement" thread for USA and for Montreal.
I keep reading comments of many of you about paid Meet&Greet, and 400-500 per meet. Geez, you are way off! I have had intimate encounters with many SBs (30-40+ so far, I actually stopped counting!), and except for a few spectacular ones I REALLY wanted, I never paid more than $200 per meet. OK it's true that some of them will ask for more, but most will start with an entry level request of $300. Anything more than that is wasted (both for you and for the next men who will try to meet that woman, as once spoiled she wont go for less).
As far as the 1st meeting goes, with some I had dinner, with others I suggested sushi and wine at the hotel, but I NEVER paid for the dinner time. Many women in Montreal will be willing to have sex on 1st first meet, as long as you act and talk as a nice guy, with respect, and don't make them feel like an escort or an objet but as a woman, and showing them you will BOTH have a nice time. Don't take anything for granted though. Leave the door open for anything, but if you play it nicely, you will have a great 1st evening. And the next ones will be even better!
Obviously we all have different tastes and are looking for different types of ladies. EB posted earlier that he is looking more for to 10% higher scale of exceptional ladies, whereas I'm more looking in the middle of the spectrum: I much prefer a "regular" young woman over one who thinks much higher of herself and feel she'd be doing me a huge favor. I hate that attitude and it's simply too common with many "hotter" ladies. But that's me.
I live in the Montreal area, and I'm married, so my time and budget is somewhat limited: less than 1k$ a month, and a few evening per weekdays only (hey! overtime "work", you know! LOL). I currently give $500 a month to a cute and shy black student who wanted to meet someone nice to help her around and mentor her, and I see her once or twice a week, sometimes more. We don't always have sex though, sometimes we just talk, or she cook me diner, or I bring something, whatever. She's not an escort, just a nice young woman with needs, feelings, and yes, sometimes she wants sex as much as I do! You will say it's not a lot of $$, but it pleases her, and we are both happy.
I also have a few other regulars who I give 150 or 200 per meet and spend a whole evening with, roughly monthly. One of them is a real "beast" in bed, as she's unhappy if we both didn't get at least 3 orgasms. I always have wooshy legs when I leave her, and you will understand that she's more like an sex driven woman. She's engaged and not correctly pleased by her husband, so I happily fill the gap! Keep in mind though: She doesn't want more than the $200 I give her everytime, for a complete evening of bliss.
Bottom line... Please stop spoiling them rotten!
I keep reading comments of many of you about paid Meet&Greet, and 400-500 per meet. Geez, you are way off! I have had intimate encounters with many SBs (30-40+ so far, I actually stopped counting!), and except for a few spectacular ones I REALLY wanted, I never paid more than $200 per meet. OK it's true that some of them will ask for more, but most will start with an entry level request of $300. Anything more than that is wasted (both for you and for the next men who will try to meet that woman, as once spoiled she wont go for less).
As far as the 1st meeting goes, with some I had dinner, with others I suggested sushi and wine at the hotel, but I NEVER paid for the dinner time. Many women in Montreal will be willing to have sex on 1st first meet, as long as you act and talk as a nice guy, with respect, and don't make them feel like an escort or an objet but as a woman, and showing them you will BOTH have a nice time. Don't take anything for granted though. Leave the door open for anything, but if you play it nicely, you will have a great 1st evening. And the next ones will be even better!
Obviously we all have different tastes and are looking for different types of ladies. EB posted earlier that he is looking more for to 10% higher scale of exceptional ladies, whereas I'm more looking in the middle of the spectrum: I much prefer a "regular" young woman over one who thinks much higher of herself and feel she'd be doing me a huge favor. I hate that attitude and it's simply too common with many "hotter" ladies. But that's me.
I live in the Montreal area, and I'm married, so my time and budget is somewhat limited: less than 1k$ a month, and a few evening per weekdays only (hey! overtime "work", you know! LOL). I currently give $500 a month to a cute and shy black student who wanted to meet someone nice to help her around and mentor her, and I see her once or twice a week, sometimes more. We don't always have sex though, sometimes we just talk, or she cook me diner, or I bring something, whatever. She's not an escort, just a nice young woman with needs, feelings, and yes, sometimes she wants sex as much as I do! You will say it's not a lot of $$, but it pleases her, and we are both happy.
I also have a few other regulars who I give 150 or 200 per meet and spend a whole evening with, roughly monthly. One of them is a real "beast" in bed, as she's unhappy if we both didn't get at least 3 orgasms. I always have wooshy legs when I leave her, and you will understand that she's more like an sex driven woman. She's engaged and not correctly pleased by her husband, so I happily fill the gap! Keep in mind though: She doesn't want more than the $200 I give her everytime, for a complete evening of bliss.
Bottom line... Please stop spoiling them rotten!
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I think CA is right about it being a different SA ballgame on SA in USA and Canada- since I actually have done both.
On another note, I have achieved 2 recent dates with ladies who I connected with through Tinder. As I may have posted above, unlike SA, ladies on TInder all post links to their social medias- usually Snapchat or Instagram. This is because they are never on Tinder. So I have gotten 2 regular no pay dates recently with women on Tinder. The first one I met at a local restaurant. She was a really nice mixed racial girl, not as hot as her pics. She was looking for a platonic arrangement.
Moving on, I asked a second one if she wanted to have dinner some time. She insisted that for her safety we FaceTime, and we did. This one is much hotter than the other one, a 10 per center black girl, college educated and was a track star at the college she graduated from, specializing in the 100 meters sprint. Anyway my shtick is to send 3 menus of local restaurants and let her pick one. She did. We are meeting at a higher end local restaurant tonight. I bought her a one pound box of chocolates, mix of milk and dark as she requested. This girl is very interesting, she posts videos on her IG which appear to comically and sarcastically mock some of her pet peeves, two of which are people who hate cats and people who use the pickup line, "you really look pretty for a dark skinned girl." It's actually unfathomable to me that someone would be so clumsy as to use such an insulting pick up line, but evidently someone did. Anyway wish me luck, this one looks like a keeper, but I always think that LOL.
On another note, I have achieved 2 recent dates with ladies who I connected with through Tinder. As I may have posted above, unlike SA, ladies on TInder all post links to their social medias- usually Snapchat or Instagram. This is because they are never on Tinder. So I have gotten 2 regular no pay dates recently with women on Tinder. The first one I met at a local restaurant. She was a really nice mixed racial girl, not as hot as her pics. She was looking for a platonic arrangement.
Moving on, I asked a second one if she wanted to have dinner some time. She insisted that for her safety we FaceTime, and we did. This one is much hotter than the other one, a 10 per center black girl, college educated and was a track star at the college she graduated from, specializing in the 100 meters sprint. Anyway my shtick is to send 3 menus of local restaurants and let her pick one. She did. We are meeting at a higher end local restaurant tonight. I bought her a one pound box of chocolates, mix of milk and dark as she requested. This girl is very interesting, she posts videos on her IG which appear to comically and sarcastically mock some of her pet peeves, two of which are people who hate cats and people who use the pickup line, "you really look pretty for a dark skinned girl." It's actually unfathomable to me that someone would be so clumsy as to use such an insulting pick up line, but evidently someone did. Anyway wish me luck, this one looks like a keeper, but I always think that LOL.
Tinder is another world, and I agree with EB, it's also quite interesting.
I was in another country (Africa) last spring and last fall, alone for business, and I happened to meet two women. One on Badoo and one on Tinder. We never had any arrangements to negociate, we just met, it clicked, and they stayed with me a few weeks while I was there (not at the same time, of course!). It was close to the best sex I ever had in my life! The second one was 35ish, sex addicted, almost every night and every morning, intense! I'm getting a hard on just to think about her! We are still in contact, but I don't know if/when I'll be back there. Shame!
I also met a girl here on Tinder, and it was very nice too, we met a few times, had fun, but not to the same extend as my previous experience.
Good luck Eager. Knowing you, I know you will seduce her and have a great time! Let us know!
What did you expect? That you could just get them as easily as you order a pizza?
Some work to do, but well worth the effort!
As I said to someone in private, for the benefit of others...
Use common sense. It takes some effort, and checking profiles at different times of day as not the same women are there. Look at profiles, READ profiles, send nice messages and engage conversation while sharing your pictures. Don't just ask for pics, that won't work. Don't be insistent, take your time. If a woman doesn't reply, just accept she may not be interested, and move on.
The key thing is, don't just be insterested in her. Make THEM be interested in YOU. Be nice, be different in your approach. Don't just approach them for sex. Keep that for further messages along the way. Show you are interested in her as a person, not just in having sex with her. Big difference! They are women, not escorts
There's no magical way...
Seeking is a bit like the dating game, but with better odds!
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@CoolAmadeus alright. So since joining today. I have gotten 5 messages. And lots of hearts.
but to check the messages. I have to pay
I feel like I am getting scammed like ashely madison and it’s bots
but to check the messages. I have to pay
I feel like I am getting scammed like ashely madison and it’s bots
Probably an automatic reply bot sending x amount of hearts and messages to every new subscriber to get them to pay lol.
I will stick to SP they don’t pretend to be something they are not, except when you are asking them to.
If I am going to play a dating game then I will play it for real with a woman that actually wants to be with me not one that is pretending no to be a prostitute.
I just would not have the patience for this kind of game.
Patience is needed but if one can accept that it's a fun game to play!
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Totally agree. Stop spoiling them rotten. I also have a young regular SB I see once in a while. Never gave her a dime, small gifts here and there, restaurants. She never asked for money up front but did ask for small gifts... literally small gifts. She had a gallon water bottle that broke recently... asked me if I could get her on, she sent me an amazon link, it's $25. Like I said, she doesn't ask for much and is happy with what she gets. One big downside about these this site/girls, it is time consuming... searching, filtering through profile, chatting, meeting, and still chatting.I think there should be a separate "Seeking Arranngement" thread for USA and for Montreal.
I keep reading comments of many of you about paid Meet&Greet, and 400-500 per meet. Geez, you are way off! I have had intimate encounters with many SBs (30-40+ so far, I actually stopped counting!), and except for a few spectacular ones I REALLY wanted, I never paid more than $200 per meet. OK it's true that some of them will ask for more, but most will start with an entry level request of $300. Anything more than that is wasted (both for you and for the next men who will try to meet that woman, as once spoiled she wont go for less).
As far as the 1st meeting goes, with some I had dinner, with others I suggested sushi and wine at the hotel, but I NEVER paid for the dinner time. Many women in Montreal will be willing to have sex on 1st first meet, as long as you act and talk as a nice guy, with respect, and don't make them feel like an escort or an objet but as a woman, and showing them you will BOTH have a nice time. Don't take anything for granted though. Leave the door open for anything, but if you play it nicely, you will have a great 1st evening. And the next ones will be even better!
Obviously we all have different tastes and are looking for different types of ladies. EB posted earlier that he is looking more for to 10% higher scale of exceptional ladies, whereas I'm more looking in the middle of the spectrum: I much prefer a "regular" young woman over one who thinks much higher of herself and feel she'd be doing me a huge favor. I hate that attitude and it's simply too common with many "hotter" ladies. But that's me.
I live in the Montreal area, and I'm married, so my time and budget is somewhat limited: less than 1k$ a month, and a few evening per weekdays only (hey! overtime "work", you know! LOL). I currently give $500 a month to a cute and shy black student who wanted to meet someone nice to help her around and mentor her, and I see her once or twice a week, sometimes more. We don't always have sex though, sometimes we just talk, or she cook me diner, or I bring something, whatever. She's not an escort, just a nice young woman with needs, feelings, and yes, sometimes she wants sex as much as I do! You will say it's not a lot of $$, but it pleases her, and we are both happy.
I also have a few other regulars who I give 150 or 200 per meet and spend a whole evening with, roughly monthly. One of them is a real "beast" in bed, as she's unhappy if we both didn't get at least 3 orgasms. I always have wooshy legs when I leave her, and you will understand that she's more like an sex driven woman. She's engaged and not correctly pleased by her husband, so I happily fill the gap! Keep in mind though: She doesn't want more than the $200 I give her everytime, for a complete evening of bliss.
Bottom line... Please stop spoiling them rotten!
Good to know. Escorts aren't women. (Or real women?) Like unwomen? Less-than-women?
Got it.
I'm confused because I was under the impression that this was an
Openly bragging about exploiting naive young girls in bad situations who don't know any better is not a good look. Not a good look at all.
Damn I wish I hadn't clicked to open this thread. Or that I could unsee. Won't be making that mistake again.
"Inventory" of women?
"Hookerize"?
Whorephia/Whorearchy
Racism
Predatory behaviour
Exploiting or taking advantage of lack of experience, young age or desperation
Misogyny
I'm not saying all of it. But quite a bit of it (and I didn't even read much more than 3 pages on 50+!!).
On seeking... 30% are ex or active SP or MP.
60% claim that "they are not an escort"... but by definition (they want to be paid for their time)... they are.
Maybe the remaining 10% are just looking to date with minimal compensation.
60% claim that "they are not an escort"... but by definition (they want to be paid for their time)... they are.
Maybe the remaining 10% are just looking to date with minimal compensation.
You really took it all wrong... If you knew me, you would know I meant exactly the opposite. I meant "escorts" as the job in itself as opposed to "women" as human beings.
But you are right up to a point, men using escorts, massage "therapists", and sugar babies are not something we should be proud of, definitely. And I chose the word "using" on purpose, because in the end, it is what we are doing. Unfortunately the earth won't stop turning on itself, but some of us are still trying to make it better by not just "taking", but "giving" as well (and I'm not necessarily talking about money, of course).
This is a subject with so many potential personal points of view! If you are open to that, I would love to offer you a coffee or a drink, and openly discuss about it in person, in public, like two adults willing to share their opinion without preconceived judgement. I'm sure it would be very interresting for both of us!
CA
What you are trying to say is that Seeking Arrangement is a more socially acceptable and legal form of sex work. I agree on one level, but I really believe you cannot characterize all the women on SA as traditional sex workers because some are seeking non-sexual or non-traditional arrangements, and others are seeking quasi-sexual arrangements (like pics and videos), which in that sense makes those particular SA users more similar to OnlyFans. I have discovered on Tinder that many women on there are using a Tinder profile to link or advertise an OF site. The best thing we can say is SA and OF provide more legal/more socially acceptable forum alternatives to traditional sex work models.I find your post ridiculous. Of course I also find the Long-Term Arrangement subset of sex work ridiculous.
It is marketing, and a different delivery system. One can’t help but think of clear cola, which was regular cola without the coloring additatives.
Why Crystal Pepsi Was A Flop - Mashed
The story of why Crystal Pepsi failed is a weird one that involves consumer anxiety, a bit of corporate sabotage, and Nazis (for real).www.mashed.com
The very good writer Chuck Klosterman said that selling pet rocks in the 1970s was marketing to stupid people. Selling clear cola was marketing to stupid people while convincing those same people that they are smarter than those drinking the same product, minus the food coloring.
One cannot help but think also of the games at the County Fair where you pay to usually hook a prize with a a metal object that could be purchased elsewhere at a cost less than the amount you paid to play several games. Some of the prizes appear to be more desirable than others. Part of the fun is the unknown and the perception that skill is involved in some way. If you really analyze it, the fun is gone.
The problem I have with your post is that you look upon the Seeking Arrangement ladies as little bunnies capable of being taken advantage of. The Seeking Arrangement system is a marketing mechanism for the group of sex workers and johns who choose to participate in it. The primary marketing is conducted by those savvy ladies who are sugar babies. While some of us have contempt and bemusement for those fellow johns drinking clear cola (perhaps I should switch the drink example to kool-aid), let’s not forget who the marketers really are here. And don’t forget how many of those “little bunnies” as you perceive them consider themselves superior to other sex workers.
The only thing I like about the Long-Term Arrangement scene is that it makes sex work harder to prosecute in the U.S., since it is closer to legal dating with benefits than it is to statutorily illegal prostitution. And when you finally show the idiotic public the color grey, they don’t view the world in terms of grey and white as much.
On my Tinder date last night, my date informed me she was on Seeking Arrangement for a year as well as Tinder, and that she had always viewed Tinder as more of a hook-up site than SA. I was very surprised to hear this comment but, at the same time, it is very clear that many woman use all of these sites interchangeably for the same marketing purposes which could be the SA model, the OF model, or a more traditional dating platform model.
I don't think so. She is more of a regular businesswoman than a sex worker. She works for a local company that provides mental health services to "at risk" youths, and also has her own self care business. From what she told me she never had a single date on Seeking, but did on Tinder, and that resulted in a relationship which she told me crashed and burned. She is 25 years old and lives with her parents, mainly because the income from her job and her side business isn't enough. She is seeking a better paying 9-5 job. So in other words she sounds like more of the average of what is on SA that I have met- women struggling economically to achieve independence and probably open to an arrangement down the road. I didn't push any envelope with her because I wasn't paying for her company. Anyway, she is very attractive and very cool, we had a nice 3 hour dinner and we will see where it goes. I have another SA girl I am seeing as well, on and off, for a period of a few years. She is 24 but still in college. She is more of the hook up type date although we usually have dinner first.
The economics of the costs of living for a minority woman in Connecticut are fairly brutal. $45,000 a year jobs just aren't going to cut it and this is quickly realized by your semi high maintenance woman, like this one, who needs her nails done, her hair done, maybe braided, and etc. That's where an arrangement can really help them breathe financially.
When you write something wrong, have the honesty to admit " I wrote that wrong " instead of " You really took it all wrong " .
That's really funny. When I started the video I thought the Judge was the SB as it's a young hot Judge. She didn't seem to get the economic struggle at first.Even this Florida judge recognizes the demands placed upon the modern Sugar Baby, who juggles her schedule between her husband and her sugar daddy, and has no time for jury duty.
Woman who cited ‘sugar daddy’ to get out of Nikolas Cruz jury receives $8,000 a month
The judge initially appeared confused by the woman’s claimwww.independent.co.uk
Play the damn video. It is hilarious, and the judge is hot.
I am surprised that such an important trial was entrusted to such a young, albeit hot Judge. I can tell you that although there are many female judges serving in the Connecticut Superior Court, I have never seen one as young and hot as this one.
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I don't really understand some of what you're writing. I think you misunderstood what I was saying and also inserted a lot of things I did not say or even believe. lol
There's sugaring and there's the bastardized version of sugaring.
I think that the "John" mindset towards a sb that is not an escort, is young and expecting an actual SR creates predatory situations.
I don't think of all SB's as 'little bunnies' but I have read enough stories to know that a significant number of girls who first join these sites are extremely naive, inexperience and always at a disadvantage in negotiating with a man with much more power, and experience. And "John's" thinking like "John's" when chasing these girls is predatory, period.
If he's trying to get to the 'new ones' because they haven't figured out they should charge more and he's looking to take advantage of that.. My man, he's a predator. So yeah, I am going to call out that it's predatory to use the age/experience advantage over an 18 year old whose brain hasn't even fully developed yet. (not fully developped until 25!)
A lot of men are not SD, not interested in sugar relationships but think it's a way to get more for less.
The types of SB men from that category are chasing after are either
- amateurs who don't know they should ask for more money
- amateurs with so much internalized whorephobia that think calling themselves sb makes them better than prostitutes/escorts
- amateurs in desperate situations
- amateurs who are very young, naive and easy to manipulate
- amateurs who aren't transactional, assertive and haven't learned to set boundaries (ie not 'hookerized')
If that's what someone is doing on SA, sorry but that's not a Sugar daddy.
I'm not imagining this, I've heard the stories.
And this thread has so much misogyny ooof
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