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I had the idea of attempting to bring the SD approach to dating to the more traditional dating apps and I was wondering if you guys have any ideas as to which dating apps are likely most receptive to this experiment. So far I created profiles on Bumble, Tinder and Match. My sense is there must be a lot more women on Tinder because my profile has 18 likes so far on Tinder and only 2 on Bumble. And I created my Tinder profile after I created the Bumble profile. More recently I created the Match profile and I am still trying to figure out this app.

What do you guys think in terms of the best app to attempt Sugar style dating approaches? I am more than happy to be a Guinea Pig in this experiment.
 

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I had the idea of attempting to bring the SD approach to dating to the more traditional dating apps and I was wondering if you guys have any ideas as to which dating apps are likely most receptive to this experiment. So far I created profiles on Bumble, Tinder and Match. My sense is there must be a lot more women on Tinder because my profile has 18 likes so far on Tinder and only 2 on Bumble. And I created my Tinder profile after I created the Bumble profile. More recently I created the Match profile and I am still trying to figure out this app.

What do you guys think in terms of the best app to attempt Sugar style dating approaches? I am more than happy to be a Guinea Pig in this experiment.
Not very help full but for me : Dating apps are a waste of time to get sex.
 
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Guys I am writing to report on my Tinder experience. First of all the MO of a lot of girls on there is to provide links to their Snapchats and/or Instagrams, probably because they are never on Tinder.

I ended up messaging 5 girls and got responses from 3. 2 clearly stated they do hookups. They wanted cash via Cash App to meet and greet and I told them cash up front in person or no deal.

A 3rd one I messaged on her Instagram. This one looks like a racially mixed girl, gorgeous. Looks like Tyra Banks probably shorter. Her IG is full of hot bikini pics. She seems to be traveling a lot which is the sign of a Sugar Daddy being in the picture. Anyway she was so hot I messaged her on the theory of nothing ventured nothing gained. Here is the message I sent her (edited version using fake names)

"Hi Tyra it's Eager Beaver. I liked your Tinder profile and followed the link to your Instagram. Anyway I have more pics on my Tinder profile. I am kinda new to that app but a veteran of the Seeking Arrangement app. I am not using these apps for hookups but rather traditional dinner dates (with sugar) and then see where things go or if there is any chemistry. I liked your pics and look and if you might ever be interested in having dinner no strings attached/ just to chat, I will give you something and make it worth your while. BTW looks like you have been traveling a lot recently and having great times, those are actually the same kinds of trips I like to take. I was in Cancun and there is a lot to do there but I really liked Jamaica and Bahamas and want to go back.

Message me if possibly interested in chatting further."


In response she sent me an audio message. The audio message was nice and she is clearly for real and recognizes I am a possible SD. She told me she was in FL for the weekend but would be back in CT Monday and would like to meet. I responded with a traditional written DM and told her to text me when she is back in CT and her availability and we will do dinner and chat. She lives around 30 minutes from me or so. Never saw her pics on SA before. Someone probably took her off the market for a while.

My impression of Tinder so far is it's easier to make actual contact with, and maybe meet girls through that app because they all give links to their social media. You can then contact them there. If you use a polite well crafted intro you are in business.
 
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Seeking Arrangement is running a 33% off St. Patrick's Day membership special now through St. Patrick's Day:
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You must be a bigger spender there than me... mine is 25%
No- just a former paid member, although on and off for 8 years. Perhaps the discount is based on money spent over time on membership fees. But I posted the discount offered above and the email speaks for itself- 33% off:
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I think there should be a separate "Seeking Arranngement" thread for USA and for Montreal.

I keep reading comments of many of you about paid Meet&Greet, and 400-500 per meet. Geez, you are way off! I have had intimate encounters with many SBs (30-40+ so far, I actually stopped counting!), and except for a few spectacular ones I REALLY wanted, I never paid more than $200 per meet. OK it's true that some of them will ask for more, but most will start with an entry level request of $300. Anything more than that is wasted (both for you and for the next men who will try to meet that woman, as once spoiled she wont go for less).

As far as the 1st meeting goes, with some I had dinner, with others I suggested sushi and wine at the hotel, but I NEVER paid for the dinner time. Many women in Montreal will be willing to have sex on 1st first meet, as long as you act and talk as a nice guy, with respect, and don't make them feel like an escort or an objet but as a woman, and showing them you will BOTH have a nice time. Don't take anything for granted though. Leave the door open for anything, but if you play it nicely, you will have a great 1st evening. And the next ones will be even better!

Obviously we all have different tastes and are looking for different types of ladies. EB posted earlier that he is looking more for to 10% higher scale of exceptional ladies, whereas I'm more looking in the middle of the spectrum: I much prefer a "regular" young woman over one who thinks much higher of herself and feel she'd be doing me a huge favor. I hate that attitude and it's simply too common with many "hotter" ladies. But that's me.

I live in the Montreal area, and I'm married, so my time and budget is somewhat limited: less than 1k$ a month, and a few evening per weekdays only (hey! overtime "work", you know! LOL). I currently give $500 a month to a cute and shy black student who wanted to meet someone nice to help her around and mentor her, and I see her once or twice a week, sometimes more. We don't always have sex though, sometimes we just talk, or she cook me diner, or I bring something, whatever. She's not an escort, just a nice young woman with needs, feelings, and yes, sometimes she wants sex as much as I do! You will say it's not a lot of $$, but it pleases her, and we are both happy.

I also have a few other regulars who I give 150 or 200 per meet and spend a whole evening with, roughly monthly. One of them is a real "beast" in bed, as she's unhappy if we both didn't get at least 3 orgasms. I always have wooshy legs when I leave her, and you will understand that she's more like an sex driven woman. She's engaged and not correctly pleased by her husband, so I happily fill the gap! Keep in mind though: She doesn't want more than the $200 I give her everytime, for a complete evening of bliss.

Bottom line... Please stop spoiling them rotten! :cool:
 
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Fuck. 99$ a month US to then have to hunt and write a bunch of messages on SA
Is it worth it?
 
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I think CA is right about it being a different SA ballgame on SA in USA and Canada- since I actually have done both.

On another note, I have achieved 2 recent dates with ladies who I connected with through Tinder. As I may have posted above, unlike SA, ladies on TInder all post links to their social medias- usually Snapchat or Instagram. This is because they are never on Tinder. So I have gotten 2 regular no pay dates recently with women on Tinder. The first one I met at a local restaurant. She was a really nice mixed racial girl, not as hot as her pics. She was looking for a platonic arrangement.

Moving on, I asked a second one if she wanted to have dinner some time. She insisted that for her safety we FaceTime, and we did. This one is much hotter than the other one, a 10 per center black girl, college educated and was a track star at the college she graduated from, specializing in the 100 meters sprint. Anyway my shtick is to send 3 menus of local restaurants and let her pick one. She did. We are meeting at a higher end local restaurant tonight. I bought her a one pound box of chocolates, mix of milk and dark as she requested. This girl is very interesting, she posts videos on her IG which appear to comically and sarcastically mock some of her pet peeves, two of which are people who hate cats and people who use the pickup line, "you really look pretty for a dark skinned girl." It's actually unfathomable to me that someone would be so clumsy as to use such an insulting pick up line, but evidently someone did. Anyway wish me luck, this one looks like a keeper, but I always think that LOL.
 

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I think CA is right about it being a different SA ballgame on SA in USA and Canada- since I actually have done both.

On another note, I have achieved 2 recent dates with ladies who I connected with through Tinder. As I may have posted above, unlike SA, ladies on TInder all post links to their social medias- usually Snapchat or Instagram. This is because they are never on Tinder. So I have gotten 2 regular no pay dates recently with women on Tinder. The first one I met at a local restaurant. She was a really nice mixed racial girl, not as hot as her pics. She was looking for a platonic arrangement.

Moving on, I asked a second one if she wanted to have dinner some time. She insisted that for her safety we FaceTime, and we did. This one is much hotter than the other one, a 10 per center black girl, college educated and was a track star at the college she graduated from, specializing in the 100 meters sprint. Anyway my shtick is to send 3 menus of local restaurants and let her pick one. She did. We are meeting at a higher end local restaurant tonight. I bought her a one pound box of chocolates, mix of milk and dark as she requested. This girl is very interesting, she posts videos on her IG which appear to comically and sarcastically mock some of her pet peeves, two of which are people who hate cats and people who use the pickup line, "you really look pretty for a dark skinned girl." It's actually unfathomable to me that someone would be so clumsy as to use such an insulting pick up line, but evidently someone did. Anyway wish me luck, this one looks like a keeper, but I always think that LOL.

Tinder is another world, and I agree with EB, it's also quite interesting.

I was in another country (Africa) last spring and last fall, alone for business, and I happened to meet two women. One on Badoo and one on Tinder. We never had any arrangements to negociate, we just met, it clicked, and they stayed with me a few weeks while I was there (not at the same time, of course!). It was close to the best sex I ever had in my life! The second one was 35ish, sex addicted, almost every night and every morning, intense! I'm getting a hard on just to think about her! We are still in contact, but I don't know if/when I'll be back there. Shame!

I also met a girl here on Tinder, and it was very nice too, we met a few times, had fun, but not to the same extend as my previous experience.

Good luck Eager. Knowing you, I know you will seduce her and have a great time! Let us know! :)
 

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Fuck. 99$ a month US to then have to hunt and write a bunch of messages on SA
Is it worth it?
What did you expect? That you could just get them as easily as you order a pizza?
Some work to do, but well worth the effort!

As I said to someone in private, for the benefit of others...

Use common sense. It takes some effort, and checking profiles at different times of day as not the same women are there. Look at profiles, READ profiles, send nice messages and engage conversation while sharing your pictures. Don't just ask for pics, that won't work. Don't be insistent, take your time. If a woman doesn't reply, just accept she may not be interested, and move on.

The key thing is, don't just be insterested in her. Make THEM be interested in YOU. Be nice, be different in your approach. Don't just approach them for sex. Keep that for further messages along the way. Show you are interested in her as a person, not just in having sex with her. Big difference! They are women, not escorts

There's no magical way...

Seeking is a bit like the dating game, but with better odds! ;)
 
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@CoolAmadeus alright. So since joining today. I have gotten 5 messages. And lots of hearts.
but to check the messages. I have to pay
I feel like I am getting scammed like ashely madison and it’s bots
 
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@CoolAmadeus alright. So since joining today. I have gotten 5 messages. And lots of hearts.
but to check the messages. I have to pay
I feel like I am getting scammed like ashely madison and it’s bots
Probably an automatic reply bot sending x amount of hearts and messages to every new subscriber to get them to pay lol.
I will stick to SP they don’t pretend to be something they are not, except when you are asking them to.
If I am going to play a dating game then I will play it for real with a woman that actually wants to be with me not one that is pretending no to be a prostitute.
I just would not have the patience for this kind of game.
 

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I think there should be a separate "Seeking Arranngement" thread for USA and for Montreal.

I keep reading comments of many of you about paid Meet&Greet, and 400-500 per meet. Geez, you are way off! I have had intimate encounters with many SBs (30-40+ so far, I actually stopped counting!), and except for a few spectacular ones I REALLY wanted, I never paid more than $200 per meet. OK it's true that some of them will ask for more, but most will start with an entry level request of $300. Anything more than that is wasted (both for you and for the next men who will try to meet that woman, as once spoiled she wont go for less).

As far as the 1st meeting goes, with some I had dinner, with others I suggested sushi and wine at the hotel, but I NEVER paid for the dinner time. Many women in Montreal will be willing to have sex on 1st first meet, as long as you act and talk as a nice guy, with respect, and don't make them feel like an escort or an objet but as a woman, and showing them you will BOTH have a nice time. Don't take anything for granted though. Leave the door open for anything, but if you play it nicely, you will have a great 1st evening. And the next ones will be even better!

Obviously we all have different tastes and are looking for different types of ladies. EB posted earlier that he is looking more for to 10% higher scale of exceptional ladies, whereas I'm more looking in the middle of the spectrum: I much prefer a "regular" young woman over one who thinks much higher of herself and feel she'd be doing me a huge favor. I hate that attitude and it's simply too common with many "hotter" ladies. But that's me.

I live in the Montreal area, and I'm married, so my time and budget is somewhat limited: less than 1k$ a month, and a few evening per weekdays only (hey! overtime "work", you know! LOL). I currently give $500 a month to a cute and shy black student who wanted to meet someone nice to help her around and mentor her, and I see her once or twice a week, sometimes more. We don't always have sex though, sometimes we just talk, or she cook me diner, or I bring something, whatever. She's not an escort, just a nice young woman with needs, feelings, and yes, sometimes she wants sex as much as I do! You will say it's not a lot of $$, but it pleases her, and we are both happy.

I also have a few other regulars who I give 150 or 200 per meet and spend a whole evening with, roughly monthly. One of them is a real "beast" in bed, as she's unhappy if we both didn't get at least 3 orgasms. I always have wooshy legs when I leave her, and you will understand that she's more like an sex driven woman. She's engaged and not correctly pleased by her husband, so I happily fill the gap! Keep in mind though: She doesn't want more than the $200 I give her everytime, for a complete evening of bliss.

Bottom line... Please stop spoiling them rotten! :cool:
Totally agree. Stop spoiling them rotten. I also have a young regular SB I see once in a while. Never gave her a dime, small gifts here and there, restaurants. She never asked for money up front but did ask for small gifts... literally small gifts. She had a gallon water bottle that broke recently... asked me if I could get her on, she sent me an amazon link, it's $25. Like I said, she doesn't ask for much and is happy with what she gets. One big downside about these this site/girls, it is time consuming... searching, filtering through profile, chatting, meeting, and still chatting.
 

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... interested in her as a person, not just in having sex with her. Big difference. They are women, not escorts.


Good to know. Escorts aren't women. (Or real women?) Like unwomen? Less-than-women?

Got it.

I'm confused because I was under the impression that this was an unwomen Escort review board paid for with unwomen escorts advertising.

Openly bragging about exploiting naive young girls in bad situations who don't know any better is not a good look. Not a good look at all.

Damn I wish I hadn't clicked to open this thread. Or that I could unsee. Won't be making that mistake again.


"Inventory" of women?
"Hookerize"?
Whorephia/Whorearchy
Racism
Predatory behaviour
Exploiting or taking advantage of lack of experience, young age or desperation
Misogyny

I'm not saying all of it. But quite a bit of it (and I didn't even read much more than 3 pages on 50+!!).
 

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On seeking... 30% are ex or active SP or MP.
60% claim that "they are not an escort"... but by definition (they want to be paid for their time)... they are.
Maybe the remaining 10% are just looking to date with minimal compensation.
 

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Good to know. Escorts aren't women. (Or real women?) Like unwomen? Less-than-women?

Got it.
You really took it all wrong... If you knew me, you would know I meant exactly the opposite. I meant "escorts" as the job in itself as opposed to "women" as human beings.

But you are right up to a point, men using escorts, massage "therapists", and sugar babies are not something we should be proud of, definitely. And I chose the word "using" on purpose, because in the end, it is what we are doing. Unfortunately the earth won't stop turning on itself, but some of us are still trying to make it better by not just "taking", but "giving" as well (and I'm not necessarily talking about money, of course).

This is a subject with so many potential personal points of view! If you are open to that, I would love to offer you a coffee or a drink, and openly discuss about it in person, in public, like two adults willing to share their opinion without preconceived judgement. I'm sure it would be very interresting for both of us!

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