i am over 55 single and divoce.i have been looking for a new girl for 5 years but after all i just find a sp ,she was only 27,she was so friendly and receptive that i thougt that she will be the right girl for me.She want at the time i meet her quit the industry and i was so please to help,i give her all she wanted money trip appartement clothes.Whe n she need something i was always ready.I thougt she was in love w ith but she was only in for money,when she find another guy she left me the same week.YOU KNOuK what i spent for her over ,60thousand box during that time.after that i d ont think it is possible to find love with a sp ,they are in in the industry only for money and that it,d ont be be fool to think something else.i think his new friend will be soon in the same situation good luck for him.
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Sorry to hear what happened Simon. Unfortuneately you learned the hard way that these girls, in the SP/Stripper industry, make a living by manipulating men to give them money. The only time you can start thinking something real is going on, is if they are around, and you are not giving them money. As long as money is involved, it is not real.
Thanks Jean. I had a similar experience with a stripper who used to work at Amazones and Bar Vegas (Now works in Gatineau). I thought there was something real going on between us. After about $4,000 I realised she liked me, but as a special customer, not as a real BF. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. When I think back to that time period, it still disappoints me.
I got siilar experience...but I still think that each case must be treated separately...
If you want to verify the effect of the money, I suggest stop to provide cash: flower, dinner, lunch and so on is ok, but not cash. You will see the effect. You can also speak directly to her, and discuss on how she see your relation, but this is more difficult... Good lucky
If you want to verify the effect of the money, I suggest stop to provide cash: flower, dinner, lunch and so on is ok, but not cash. You will see the effect. You can also speak directly to her, and discuss on how she see your relation, but this is more difficult... Good lucky
Yes, as Goya said. Don't give her any cash and you'll see what the real story is. She seems in a place where she's going to leave the biz for a real career, so her mindset may not be one looking to manipulate for money. So far it sounds OK. Just tread carefully and always be honest with yourself.
What is the best case scenario? You and the sex worker fall madly in love and live happily even after? Of course, then she will absolutely refuse your money.
But wait, unless she has some other source of comparable income (extraordinarily unlikely), she has to continue in the sex trade. If you have feelings for her, it is unlikely that you will be able to handle that. Do you have the means and inclination to supply her with enough money to retire?
Don't expect the arrangement to last longer than a year or two at best. She will leave when she finds someone richer, more generous or younger and more attractive. Can you tolerate infidelity? She may have the same arrangement with another one or two sugardaddys. Can you handle your own jealousy when she is absent without credible explanation?
The key to such arrangements is realism. Don't expect a faithful girl friend to give up her lifestyle and go to work at a Couch Tard. She may do exactly that one day, but it will be with someone too hot to ever need to pay for sex.
You will have great sex. She might even be faithful. You can both get tested and dispense with condoms. Saving money, whatever your initial arrangement, is an illusion. There will be emergency loans, accidents, "one of" expenses. Not all, but many SPs are damaged before they even get into the trade. Working in the trade doesn't cure them of drug addiction, bling addiction, mistrust and possibly contempt for men. Many are fabulous actresses. Be prepared to find uncomfortable truths.
But wait, unless she has some other source of comparable income (extraordinarily unlikely), she has to continue in the sex trade. If you have feelings for her, it is unlikely that you will be able to handle that. Do you have the means and inclination to supply her with enough money to retire?
Don't expect the arrangement to last longer than a year or two at best. She will leave when she finds someone richer, more generous or younger and more attractive. Can you tolerate infidelity? She may have the same arrangement with another one or two sugardaddys. Can you handle your own jealousy when she is absent without credible explanation?
The key to such arrangements is realism. Don't expect a faithful girl friend to give up her lifestyle and go to work at a Couch Tard. She may do exactly that one day, but it will be with someone too hot to ever need to pay for sex.
You will have great sex. She might even be faithful. You can both get tested and dispense with condoms. Saving money, whatever your initial arrangement, is an illusion. There will be emergency loans, accidents, "one of" expenses. Not all, but many SPs are damaged before they even get into the trade. Working in the trade doesn't cure them of drug addiction, bling addiction, mistrust and possibly contempt for men. Many are fabulous actresses. Be prepared to find uncomfortable truths.
So why did you pay her? You should have accepted her gift of herself.
Yes it is possible she is setting you up for the big take. This is very posssible. Remember, paying their fee is cheap compared to alimony and child support. Be aware of SP's that become girl friends and allow you to do them bareback. Child support is the gift that keeps on giving.
You need to have a little confidence in yourself and your self worth. Sp's are human (at least I believe I have detected a pulse once or twice) after all and are built with the same emotions we all have. If you don't think she would be with you without being paid - she will develop the same opinion. But need to be realistic - could you be with this girl on normal terms? Most relationships don't last beyond 2yrs whether they be SP-Client or not - if she moves on after 18 months it doesn't mean that she wasn't sincere and didn't love you - it just means it is time to move on - just make sure you are financially intact when she moves on. Having expectations about a long term relationship might be a bit out there (low odds - as it is with anyone) - just more so with an SP.
I have met Sp's that told me of their personal lives and have got into relationships with clients (not me). Some are very sincere and need normal relationships beyond work. She could make $500 for a couple hours work with any client - what she can't get from every client is a personal connection which she seems to have gotten with you. But you have laid the foundation with the $500 gift.
Still, it depends on your state of mind when you start hobbying. I'm single, have been for years, now. I've been hobbying for about 6. Just recently started seeing incalls and will start outcalls and MPs very soon. I don't think I'd ever get romantic feelings for an SP. If I do, I think I'll have sufficient self-control to let the obvious impossibility of a relationship take over the romantic feelings. Then again, I'm the type of guy who never hit on a barmaid/waitress/cashier or any working woman while she was working. It doesn't feel right, I never feel it's the right place to do this. Maybe this is why I've been single for that long ... And maybe I have the same train of thought when it comes to SPs : she's working right now, I'm her client. Nothing romantic can happen here ...
it is easy to talk about self- control but sometimes it is also very easy to lose control,My sefl i was sure that i have the perfect control but it was a illusion.
Self control is almost impossible in these situations. Most of us are not attractive to young beautiful women and lose our heads when an apparent miracle occurs and one appears who seems to return our desires.
My advice is radical and cynical- cheat! See other women right from the start, regardless of your arrangement. Don't become dependent on her.
My advice is radical and cynical- cheat! See other women right from the start, regardless of your arrangement. Don't become dependent on her.
All of the above are true. I’ve been there, done that on most (never dropped $60K on one though) of the above. Moderators, why did I take up so much of your bandwidth (editted out non-app portions) quoting everyone? Because if the sensible man looks at the posts one thread of logic appears time and again. Sex, Love, Affection and relations of anything more than friends between a man and a woman is “transactional”. Terms of the transaction are subject to change without notice. Merlot, rumps and cloud have all expressed their pity and distain of my perception. Sorry knights, you can function under whatever delusion lines the pockets of the agencies and SPs. The transaction is always there, it’s just the timing of the exchange. Does this make all men & women SP’s, no. How can you put a label on that which has carried on since the beginning of time?
Look man. I was seeing and dating one that I met ONCE as a client. I was only a few years older than her. But she asked for my contact info and we started seeing each other in a non-business setting. Except whenever we would go out, SHE WOULD PAY like 75% and me 25% of our nights out because she was making a lot more money than me as an escort. So use your head. If the whole basis of her quitting was financial then obviously she didn't love you but was only using you. You have to open your eyes and not let your heart blind you. I actually broke ties with her because she wanted something very serious but still wanted to stay in the business. Was too complicated and conflictual for me at the time.
Some actually don t have a pimp. Pretty easy to spot who is pimped and who isn't if you have a good eye and have experience.
Lots of indies are not pimped. When you see a so-called indie advertising and saying things like come fuck me like a bitch. She is pimped LOL
People can be manipulative and deceptive or honest, this is not a trait exclusive to SPs. Part time SPs can be honest or manipulative, one can never really tell. I knew a accountant that became a part time SP to support her cocaine habit. Her SP activities increased as her demand for cocaine did. She was later ejected from the accountants profession for defrauding clients and turned to SPing full time. Sometimes a manipulative SP will turn down a small amount in order to get your trust, the big score will come later.
Hmmm,
First CS, why did you do this????? I have no idea why you need to mention my name, or why you lump me in a "delusion" label with anyone, except for instigation.
For one thing, I've happily avoided you in your need to seek controversy and your de facto invitations to a flaming fight like the one above. Your propensity to issue such silly narrow labels and condescending insults is what makes exchange with you distasteful. Why not just make your point without trying to draw others in unnecessarily with baited comments. There was no reason to do this...unless a battle is what you want. Other than this post I for one have no intention of indulging any sort of such possibility with you, and I have proven this by staying away from such posts by you as above for some months now.
On the other part of your presumption, I have always been one of the most cynical about real world relationships between escorts and clients. If my reviews seem otherwise it's only because I am able enjoy my encounters after choosing the lady wisely, as best as I can, and staying away from any delusion that there might be more beyond the encounter. I have never asked or seriously thought about getting involved to the point of wooing any escort, much less involving great expenditures to do so. IF you have had a problem with a tendency doing this it's not my place or my wish to knock you down for it, and there is certainly no reason for you to play the offended party by attempting to imply anyone is intrusively judging you. I am not. It's your issue/problem and whether any person has spent $10,000 or $10,000,000 on a lady only to have a poor ending, and whether anyone might see what you chose to do in a negative way changes nothing about it being 100% your choice and 100% your responsibility. Your problem with outcomes regarding escorts is yours alone.
Your line in bold and what you mean isn't clear. All I can say about this subject is an escort is a business person seeking profit, not love. From all I have read, and been told by escorts, almost all of them will not accept a client as a true lover. For nearly all escorts that romantic possibility is dead as soon as money is exchanged for sex. I'm told by some escorts that there is no going back after that. If anyone manages to find a companion to their sugar daddy desires it is their responsibility to remember it's still a business and the basic rules have not changed just because the business relationship is closer and more steady and deeper. Keep in mind it's a business transaction where you could be "better-dealed" or the deal ended any time.
Remember hobbyists, the escort is selling fantasies. If you try to make it a reality, do it at your own peril with the worst possible odds of success.
The closest relationship I ever had with an escort lasted about 7 years or so. It never got beyond the encounters, lunch or dinner, and a little very minor shopping...which is probably the reason we continued to meet over several years. I think we were fond of each other, I know I was of her. But neither of us ever complicated the situation by attempting to turn it into anything much beyond the business boundaries. Whatever deeper feelings there may have been they were never brought out. But I understand if others chose to seek more and take more risks. I chose not to. While distance was a factor, mostly I thought it was unwise.
Finally CS, if you hadn't written about your escort issues on this board I wouldn't know anything about them. I don't seek this stuff out, and I can't remember ever criticizing you for this. So where you may have a problem with me on this seems to be in your own head. :thumb:
Happy choices,
Merlot
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