MASS SHOOTING/USA

[Jazzman1218]

Yes, we should keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. However, these days liberals refuse to recognize when a person has very clear signs of mental illness.

For example, the Philadelphia mass shooter liked to dress up as a woman. What could be more clear as a sign of mental illness than a man who dresses as a woman?

He also exhibited another clear sign of mental illness-he was a supporter of Black Lives Matter.

I was shocked when Joe Biden recently hosted a group of similarly mentally ill people on the grounds of the White House. But I guess they had to pass through a metal detector and there were lots of Secret Service guys around to keep them in line. Though one guy proudly took off his shirt to show off his fake boobs to Joe. Not a good look!

Exclusive | Philadelphia mass shooting suspect Kimbrady Carriker was ‘weird’ and dressed as woman for years: neighbors

Kimbrady Carriker, 40, has since been hit with a slew of murder and other charges after allegedly opening fire with AR-15 style rifle in Monday night.

nypost.com

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As is usually the case, you are getting way off-track in furtherance of your agenda. And, for the record, being trans or supporting BLM are not mental illnesses. And if you are so concerned about real mentally ill patients having access to guns, why did the republican congress and the last republican president pass a law in 2019 making it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns?

 

[CaptRenault]

There was yet another mass shooting (this one in Shreveport LA) over the July 4th weekend that fits the pattern of young black thugs randomly gunning down fellow blacks for no reason at all. Apparently there are no suspects (part of the pattern) but it is certain that the killers are black, male, young, using illegal guns and they probably have extensive criminal records. If they ever get caught, they will get a plea bargain deal and serve very little time in jail.

We don't need any new gun laws. We need enforcement of our existing laws against murder, possession and use of illegal guns, parole violation and all the other crimes that these killer thugs violate. We also need to get rid of no-bail laws, liberal prosecutors, weak judges and prison abolitionists.

Witness recalls terrifying, chaotic scene of Fourth of July mass shooting at block party in Shreveport

Partygoer describes scene of mass shooting at Fourth of July block party as something "out of a horror movie."

www.ksla.com

 

[Jazzman1218]

There was yet another mass shooting (this one in Shreveport LA) over the July 4th weekend that fits the pattern of young black thugs randomly gunning down fellow blacks for no reason at all. Apparently there are no suspects (part of the pattern) but it is certain that the killers are black, male, young, using illegal guns and they probably have extensive criminal records. If they ever get caught, they will get a plea bargain deal and serve very little time in jail.

We don't need any new gun laws. We need enforcement of our existing laws against murder, possession and use of illegal guns, parole violation and all the other crimes that these killer thugs violate. We also need to get rid of no-bail laws, liberal prosecutors, weak judges and prison abolitionists.

Witness recalls terrifying, chaotic scene of Fourth of July mass shooting at block party in Shreveport

Partygoer describes scene of mass shooting at Fourth of July block party as something "out of a horror movie."

www.ksla.com

There are no suspects but you "know" the perps are young, black, repeat offender thugs using illegal weapons, who, even if arrested, will be released by the liberal judicial system. The fact that you continue to promulgate this oversimplified, right-wing nonsense tells me all I need to know about your agenda. So the obscene proliferation of guns in America has absolutely nothing to do with another daily mass shooting? That point of view is myopic and inane. Yes criminals with guns are part of the problem. Anyone with a weapon who guns down innocents is the problem. Reduce and regulate the weapons and the risk of mass shootings is reduced substantially.

 

[CaptRenault]

Canada has the same problem as the U.S., i.e. thugs who have criminal records with illegal guns. Guns don’t kill people-thugs kill people.

Man with criminal history arrested in Leslieville shooting of innocent woman

Damian Hudson of Toronto has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Karolina Huebner-Makurat.

torontosun.com

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Canada has the same problem as the U.S., i.e. thugs who have criminal records with illegal guns. Guns don’t kill people-thugs kill people.

The problem is thugs buy guns and more guns easily available, more guns will be bought buy thugs. Thugs are usually coward so without guns they are just pissing in their pants.
As we can't reduce the amount of thugs, let's reduce the amount of guns and let's start with automatic firearms.

Number of mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and April 2023, by shooter's race or ethnicity.

Between 1982 and April 2023, 74 out of the 142 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by white shooters. By comparison, the perpetrator was African American in 25 mass shootings, and Latino in 11. When calculated as percentages, this amounts to 52 percent, 17 percent, and seven percent respectively.

Mass shootings by shooter’s race in the U.S. 2024 | Statista

Between 1982 and September 2024, 82 out of the 151 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by White shooters.

www.statista.com

 

[Jazzman1218]

On a related subject: In the first half of 2023 in the gun-loving, AR15 packing United States of America, MASS KILLINGS (4 or more slain) rose to an unprecedented 28 MASS KILLINGS with 140 victims. 1 country. 181 days. 140 killed. Congress: Do something to stop the slaughter and this madness.

 

[purplem]

Good idea Jazzman but unfortunately it won't happen with the current Congress, which tragically has a Republican majority. The "party of law and order" LOVES guns (and the fortunes it receives from the gun lobby!). Besides, the "party of law and order" is too busy trying to defund or dismantle the FBI and DOJ, too busy trying to protect a lifelong grifter, criminal and traitor from receiving his long-delayed and long-deserved punishment for his multiple crimes against his nation, too busy vilifying lifelong Republican (!) Chris Wray (who was appointed by Trump - ! - as the head of the FBI), too busy trying to locate a fugitive spy for China that they are LAUGHABLY saying is a credible whistleblower, and too busy worrying about gas stoves, drag shows and Hunter's laptop.

Oh yeah - and too busy taking away the rights of women to choose what happens with their own bodies...and too busy redefining electoral rules and voting districts so that they can prevent selected segments of society (translation: people of color) from voting.

In short: Too busy to save the lives of American people and too busy to do one single thing to improve life for the citizens - even the ill-informed rightwing voters who put these disgusting and incompetent pieces of dirt in office.

But I guess logic doesn't matter and I guess lives don't matter to these Republican SOBs as long as they get their blood money from the gun industry. And for sure: honesty and decency mean NOTHING to the GOP or their ignorant supporters. A party that bans books but loves assault rifles is just what its moronic voters love. And in their sick minds, the older and whiter their reps are, the better (as Rand, Tuberville and so many others constantly prove through their actions and statements).

 

[gaby]

JACKSONVILLE...deadly shooting again/one more horrible tragedy....white gunman/21y. killed three Black people at a Dollar general store....racially motivated....he left ''several manifestos'' detailing his hatred for Black people......the same day the country
marked the 60th Anniversary /March/Wash/L.M.King said his famous'' I have a dream''......wow....sorry BUT la réalité est toujours aussi cruelle et insensée....non pas de limite à la folie des suprémacistes blancs....alimentée par un discours
haineux et guerrier...disgusting.

 

[purplem]

Guns and racist morons are a recipe for disaster that we've seen too many times.

 

[Jazzman1218]

Unfortunately we cannot stop the racism and the hate, but we can stop the proliferation of weapons. More senseless deaths in America.

 

[Womaniser]

JACKSONVILLE...deadly shooting again/one more horrible tragedy....white gunman/21y. killed three Black people at a Dollar general store....racially motivated....he left ''several manifestos'' detailing his hatred for Black people......the same day the country
marked the 60th Anniversary /March/Wash/L.M.King said his famous'' I have a dream''......wow....sorry BUT la réalité est toujours aussi cruelle et insensée....non pas de limite à la folie des suprémacistes blancs....alimentée par un discours
haineux et guerrier...disgusting.

The killer had been involved in domestic violence and commited to mental hospital for examination and yet was able to possess a handgun and an assault rifle !

 

[nothinghere]

The killer had been involved in domestic violence and commited to mental hospital for examination and yet was able to possess a handgun and an assault rifle !

Yes this was very bad. Also very bad because of the timing after Trump mugshot inspiring many in the black community to support Trump on social media. I posted the "Blacks for Trump" references under Trump crime thread. VERY suspicious the news claims this is white supremacist shooting with a manifesto and nazi propaganda written all over gun. That part of the event could have been setup? Very strange coincidence. They add fuel to social fires. Of course AR15 I don't get why always this rifle cause handgun close range is more effective and easier to conceal for evil shooters. Always suspicious.

 

[Womaniser]

Yes this was very bad. Also very bad because of the timing after Trump mugshot inspiring many in the black community to support Trump on social media. I posted the "Blacks for Trump" references under Trump crime thread. VERY suspicious the news claims this is white supremacist shooting with a manifesto and nazi propaganda written all over gun. That part of the event could have been setup? Very strange coincidence. They add fuel to social fires. Of course AR15 I don't get why always this rifle cause handgun close range is more effective and easier to conceal for evil shooters. Always suspicious.

One shot of AR15 causes infinitely more damage than 9 mm cartridge.
People have survived multiple injuries inflicted by 9mm cartridges.
Ask Emergency workers how many AR 15
Bullets it takes to kill humans.

 

[gaby]

wow.....''set up ?''.....yeah sure.....another fake news.....for sure FOX wil finally go that way too....sooo pathetic....

 

[nothinghere]

One shot of AR15 causes infinitely more damage than 9 mm cartridge.

Yea maybe I word that wrong.
From gun 101:

Close range a handgun requires only one hand to fire, which leave the other hand free. Rifles require both hands and a shoulder to fire, which means that the shooter has to stay positioned in one place.

Handgun also provide the shooter with maneuverability. For example, a defender can easily wrestle away a rifle from an attacker, due to the long barrel, which gives the defender something to grab at. However, a handgun is small and barely has any place that an attacker can grab.

A pistol is small, lighter, and easier to carry and conceal, whereas a rifle is longer, heavier, and harder to carry or conceal. Of course pistols tend to have low power than rifles.

Also AR15 is quite expensive. Most US shootings in Chicago is handgun and very very rare AR15 used. AR15 almost always found in high publicity media frenzy shootings very suspicious still.

There are so many cheap 223 semi auto rifles on market. Why always the more expensive AR15 used in evil shootings? Always strange to me these mental patients always have good money?

 

[nothinghere]

wow.....''set up ?''.....yeah sure.....another fake news.....for sure FOX wil finally go that way too....sooo pathetic....

Possible set up as in the white supremacist material NOT the physical shooting. Why at a Dollarama? Strange. It is being called "Hate crime" all over even Canadian news. This is political Highjacking of situation.
All these crazy shooting around Montreal and they NEVER mention race unless it is for political advantage.

 

[Jazzman1218]

Possible set up as in the white supremacist material NOT the physical shooting. Why at a Dollarama? Strange. It is being called "Hate crime" all over even Canadian news. This is political Highjacking of situation.

Possible set up? Political high jacking? That's absurd. The killer had racist manifestos in his bedroom at his parents' house. The Dollar General store is in a predominantly black neighborhood.

 

[Womaniser]

Yea maybe I word that wrong.
From gun 101:

Close range a handgun requires only one hand to fire, which leave the other hand free. Rifles require both hands and a shoulder to fire, which means that the shooter has to stay positioned in one place.

Handgun also provide the shooter with maneuverability. For example, a defender can easily wrestle away a rifle from an attacker, due to the long barrel, which gives the defender something to grab at. However, a handgun is small and barely has any place that an attacker can grab.

A pistol is small, lighter, and easier to carry and conceal, whereas a rifle is longer, heavier, and harder to carry or conceal. Of course pistols tend to have low power than rifles.

Also AR15 is quite expensive. Most US shootings in Chicago is handgun and very very rare AR15 used. AR15 almost always found in high publicity media frenzy shootings very suspicious still.

There are so many cheap 223 semi auto rifles on market. Why always the more expensive AR15 used in evil shootings? Always strange to me these mental patients always have good money?

Possible set up as in the white supremacist material NOT the physical shooting. Why at a Dollarama? Strange. It is being called "Hate crime" all over even Canadian news. This is political Highjacking of situation.
All these crazy shooting around Montreal and they NEVER mention race unless it is for political advantage.

In Montreal they no longer mention race for fear of being accused of racism.

 

[nothinghere]

In Montreal they no longer mention race for fear of being accused of racism.

Exactly. So it is understood what the media is doing. Throwing not wood not gasoline but ether on the social fire by design.
Ya ever play with ether as a kid? It used to be sold at pharmacies 30 years ago.
Scary stuff blows up before even burning.

 

[Womaniser]

Exactly. So it is understood what the US media doing.

Are you accusing US media of racism against white men when a white man shoot black people at random in a store ?