Great discussion guys
Gentlemen,
Excellent civilized points that are well presented by all. I have just landed back at SFO after a 2 week field excursion to YYZ and YUL. I might add, this is in my opinion the overall best of the many visits I have made into Canada for the purpose of hobbying since I first starting doing this in the early nineties. I`ve hobbied pretty extensively in both the Montreal and Toronto markets for years at both market rate (LDL) and HDH outcall escorts. My perspective isn`t necessarily colored by an individual who has ``unlimited`` funds. However as one who relocates to the area at my own time and expense, it is highly biased by the fact that time is money, and given that I am in the area for the purpose of enjoying company with extraordinary young ladies, the cost of a ``dud`` has to be figured into any up front cost savings. I also don`t discount my time wasted due to a ``dial and hope`` strategy, something which unfortunately is the norm in the market rate agencies in Montreal. This is the primary difference between Toronto and Montreal. The market rate/mid-range agencies take advance appointments and many post the schedules of the ladies. This allows those of us who travel with limited time to prebook appointments. This works well for both locals and out of towners as both tend to use these midrange services in equal numbers.
Empiracally, if one searches this board and looks at the expressed level of satisfaction by reviewers of the LDL escorts, it would appear that ``satisfaction`` level is hardly better at that end. In fact, such a study tends to support my assertion that the market rate (LDL) is in decline. There is no truth to the assertion often made that the HDH service levels are not any better than the LDL ladies in MTL. This simply has not been my experience in the MTL HDH market. Take that one step forward and compare the ``liberal`` Montreal with the often cited more conservative Toronto. My statistical data, collected by correllating escort scoring in the rigorous EBS scoring format, would indicate that the service levels of the market rate ladies in Toronto is comparable to those found in Montreal. The notion that more liberal services can be found in the market level escort in Montreal, just isn`t born out by the facts. I am just as likely to receive MSOG, and kissing from a market rate lady in Toronto as I would in Montreal. Recall that regardless to whether the absolute price is cheaper in Montreal, that market rate is established by affordability to the locals of the respective areas.
It may be true that the more liberal attitude towards sex within the Montreal community may contribute to the level of service in the escort population. I suggest that another reason for the service level was coercion established by what was in essence a local monopoly for many years prior to the upset caused by the internet--i.e. LFMJ. The service standard which became legendary was established by coercion within the ranks of the ladies of LFMJ. If you did not /MSOG, you simply did not get much work. This is a well documented fact, reported frequently by ladies who were former LFMJ employees, one of who was the infamous Marilyn/Nelie Arcan. Now that there are more choices of places to work, one clearly sees that the market is flooded with ladies who offer less liberal services, simply because they now have choices about what they wish to offer. Agencies such as Fantasme which had an early web presence, simply dropped any interest in communicating online. Their ranks became filled with a wide range of escorts-from the good looking low mileage to the average to below average that tended to compensate with more liberal services. The defacto upscale agencies represented by Heartbreakers provided ladies that were well presented at a fractional rate above market, yet it could hardly be said that these ladies provided liberal services on average. Girls simply showed up for work when they felt like it rather than be kept to schedules. No accomodation for prebookings was offerred. What it boiled down to as an attraction for those of us out of town is the promise of a low cost encounter with an attractive young girl that dispenses ``liberal`` services. The reality is that many of those lookers who otherwise might be more liberal, either excercised their new found choices to move to a higher price bracket or they simply stopped ``delivering``. What I have noticed is that several of the HDH agencies have ``headliners`` that consistently receive excellent reviews. At least one agency is known to have ladies on staff that offer GFE across the board. It could be argued that not all of these ladies meet the standard for HDH, yet the new price point is being exploited by agency owners to pad their ranks as well as independents who quite frankly fall short of ladies that should command this rate. There will be a market adjustment (in terms of the number of ladies at HDH pricing not the price itself), primarily due to boards like this where information is exchanged, and backchannel communication amongst a lot of serious players in this hobby who don`t post online, yet are quite proactive in engaging this type of talent.
EBS
