Montreal Rules for HDH entertainment...

[ManAboutTown]

Train, often HD doesn't get you the whole package. With the recent rush of girls to leave agencies and go "independant" (which often means becoming part of another group, like FKS or other), you will find some girls charging some serious dollars for only middling performance.

I agree with you, as a tourist with not alot of time on your hands to play around, you have to go for situations that are more likely to meet you desires. HDHs certainly are more likely to strike that right cord, basically the average experience is probably better than the overall field.

Even at HDH rates, it's still better in Montreal than most places in the world.

MATt

 

[E B Samaritano]

Originally posted by ManAboutTown
I managed to stay out of this one so far... but hey, why not?

EBS: Montreal has some fine HDH in the marketplace. We also have some fine LDLs, etc. Paying more is no indication of quality, rather an indication of your willingness to pay. There is no way to determine if the HDH girl you see today isn't an LDL the rest of the week. There is no way to tell if she won't go and see 4 other guys when she is done with you. You may feel re-assured by paying the big money, but in reality, you have no more control of the situation than what happens in a very small window of time in the girl's life.

You get what you pay for often because you convince yourself that you are getting something better. You set the stage, better room, good food perhaps, maybe a nice bottle of champagne, whatever it is. You create, without even intending, the perfect situation for any girl to come into and shine. You know what you are spending, and you are convinced that things are create. This is your culture (American) playing out right in front of you - the more you spend, the better it must be.

Money can't buy happiness - but HDH are proof that you can rent happiness if you are willing to pay enough.

MATt

MAT,

Maybe you should have listened to your own advice for I can tell you sir that you are way off base here. I don't need a rewaremed lecture about what you consider value. And I also don't need you to tell me that I do or do not know what it is that I am getting. I submit that that statement is quite frankly, bullshit. I know exactly what it is that I'm getting. And let me let you in on something else...I've got just as much experience in your local market as you or anybody else does on this thread..and that would include LDL as well as HDH. And there is a reason why I designate HDH as "Hardly Doing Homeboys".

EBS

 

[E B Samaritano]

Originally posted by ManAboutTown
Train, often HD doesn't get you the whole package. With the recent rush of girls to leave agencies and go "independant" (which often means becoming part of another group, like FKS or other), you will find some girls charging some serious dollars for only middling performance.

I agree with you, as a tourist with not alot of time on your hands to play around, you have to go for situations that are more likely to meet you desires. HDHs certainly are more likely to strike that right cord, basically the average experience is probably better than the overall field.

Even at HDH rates, it's still better in Montreal than most places in the world.

MATt

I'm going to say this once and slowly...a nominal 300 dollar per hour starting rate is NECESSARY yet not SUFFICIENT to define a HDH.

EBS

 

[E B Samaritano]

Originally posted by didi


There so many new girls who enter the business each year that the chances for the locals to meet one of the same quality as your HDH are actually not as low as you thought. The main different between them and your HDH is, apart from being new in the business, often the capability to communicate in English. Thus not easily accessible by big spenders from out-of-town who can only speak English. The fact that the locals have access to them (prior to their becoming HDH)) is very relevant in my opinion.
Let's take the example of Marie Eve (ex Asservissante), very recently (may be a couple of months ago) her rate was $260/ 2 hrs ($140/hr), now her price jumps to $550/2 hrs thank mostly to the generosity of the out-of-towners. I just realized how lucky I am that she still charging less than those $1000us in NY.

Didi,

You and many others on this thread would do well to understand what is a HDH is before you embarass yourselves by showing abysmal ignorance in opining on the subject. There is no way that I or anyone who understands the concept would confuse Marie Eve for a HDH. Anybody can ask the rate. Few match the criteria. There are many in the HDH market now that never worked in the LDL agencies. In addition, I am sick and tired of the locals talking about all the talent they have at the LDL level. The fact is that one who reads this board cannot identify this talent. That is the very reason we have these petty exchanges. You guys are being priced out of decent talent. The availabilty of decent talent at market rates is on the decline and that is precisely not only the reason for the friction on this board, it is the very premise of my argument. I can fill my agenda with QUALITY HDH entertainment when I come to Montreal. That talent is easily identifiable by anybody reading this board. The unfortunate thing is that one cannot do the same with LDL ladies reviewed here.

EBS

 

[E B Samaritano]

Originally posted by ElfGoneBad
Call me slow, stupid, and naive but I begin to understand the difference between us.

You are Americans we are Canadians (some of us Quebecois) and as Canadians, we know that the philosophy of "most cases you get what you pay for" has major flaws.

One of these flaws becomes visible when you exit your home country. Individually and as a nation you have replaced any attempt to understand a culture, any culture, with the $ sign.

Sad but true.

No, not planning to change the world, but a few suggestions on how to bridge this gap are welcomed.

Elf gone bad,

Let me make one thing perfectly clear. What do you do when you run out of shoes to shine? The quality of the tripe you post here could only be appreciated at the stockyards. You are perhaps one of the most culturally ignorant persons I've ever encountered in a forum such as this. How dare you cast aspersions on Americans, as if your status as a suck ass Cannuck gives you station to criticize. I would love to get on a separate thread and take your phony ass down a notch or two...

EBS

 

[Doc Holliday]

The Americans

As a child, i had once made the mistake of blurting out an anti-american comment in front of my grandfather, who had also served in WWII. He said "son, if it weren't for the Americans, we'd all be sitting around here speaking German right now."

The late radio personality named Gordon Sinclair (remember 'Front Page Challenge', anyone?) once spent 20 minutes lecturing Canadian listeners once he'd had enough of the stream of negativism and criticism towards the USA by the foreign press. The title of the broadcast was called "The Americans". Here is the text from that broadcast, aired on June 5th, 1973:

This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States Dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon — not once, but several times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the American who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those.