My first STD

[hobbier]

You seem to think SPs make a shit ton of money as if there wasn’t a massive physical and psychological cost to having countless strangers use their bodies every week. That mindset is fucked up.

hey..What a stupid and unrelated comment ......its their choice to play with strangers and It seems you dont know they have access to free tests...you better stay quiet if you dont know better

 

[x5fq]

hey..What a stupid and unrelated comment ......its their choice to play with strangers and It seems you dont know they have access to free tests...you better stay quiet if you dont know better

Calling my comment "unrelated" doesn't make it unrelated.

You're the one who brought up "high fees" in your initial argument for why testing should be more frequent, and then later shifted to "it's free" as if that removes the relevance of what you said before.

So the question is simple: why introduce income in the first place if your position is that cost doesn't actually matter in determining testing frequency ? Either it's a relevant factor in your reasoning, or it isn't. Right now it's being used selectively depending on what supports the point.

Exposure risk can justify more frequent screening. That part is not in dispute. But income has no medical relevance to how often testing is required, so using "they make good money" as a basis for "no excuse" is not a health argument, it's a value judgment.

And that's exactly why my original comment wasn't "unrelated". Once you start framing expectations around what people earn and what they "should be able to afford", you're no longer just talking about medical guidelines, you're also implicitly talking about pressure, assumptions, and how you view the people doing the work.

And "they chose it" is such an oversimplified argument. A lot of women in that industry are there because of financial desperation, coercion, abusive situations, trafficking, addiction, or lack of options.

 

[just_a_effing_guy]

Maaaan... We can tell you haven't spoken to SPs overall... They say that ignorance is a bliss but in your case, we can see that you need some proper education. Don't talk about things that you're clearly unaware of, because it'll look bad on you.

Honestly, here's my advice : don't presume ANYTHING from the sex work industry. We don't know jack shit from THEIR perspective so perhaps it's better for you to just close your mouth and listen to them, the SP. You might learn a thing or two, maybe.

 

[hobbier]

Calling my comment "unrelated" doesn't make it unrelated.

You're the one who brought up "high fees" in your initial argument for why testing should be more frequent, and then later shifted to "it's free" as if that removes the relevance of what you said before.

So the question is simple: why introduce income in the first place if your position is that cost doesn't actually matter in determining testing frequency ? Either it's a relevant factor in your reasoning, or it isn't. Right now it's being used selectively depending on what supports the point.

Exposure risk can justify more frequent screening. That part is not in dispute. But income has no medical relevance to how often testing is required, so using "they make good money" as a basis for "no excuse" is not a health argument, it's a value judgment.

And that's exactly why my original comment wasn't "unrelated". Once you start framing expectations around what people earn and what they "should be able to afford", you're no longer just talking about medical guidelines, you're also implicitly talking about pressure, assumptions, and how you view the people doing the work.

And "they chose it" is such an oversimplified argument. A lot of women in that industry are there because of financial desperation, coercion, abusive situations, trafficking, addiction, or lack of options.

anyhow..this is all non sense..not sure what you are doing in this board, as I could not found a single review from you...but, I could read that you are a strong defender for the sp...

 

[Lunaseraphim]

my take on this is as a provider one test every month is not enough. If you make a living of being a sp, and having high fees, multiple tests per month should be a standard.

Yeah I wish I could get tested every week but there's not enough space in clinics and resources in the health care system ..

Maybe stop asking for bare oral services and we will be ok. The demand from clients is why we offer it.

 

[Matos]

It s really hard to me to see a woman after seeing this

 

[hobbier]

Yeah I wish I could get tested every week but there's not enough space in clinics and resources .. maybe stop asking for bare services and we will be ok

what about private clinics, like I use?

 

[kkrack]

Yeah I wish I could get tested every week but there's not enough space in clinics and resources .. maybe stop asking for bare services and we will be ok

I use prelib plenty of facilities they do check everything it takes 15 minutes and it costs 15 bucks. For someone who does this kind of work I am surprised you don't know this service.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

what about private clinics, like I use?

I have used them before. It's a 400$ bill for a test and no clinic would accept testing you that often.

You didn't respond to my comment.. stop asking for bare oral services, cim etc if you are nervous. We offer these services because you push for it and we need clients.

You have no idea how much money I make and what I have to spend on. I already have health issues that cost me a lot. Your comment is inappropriate.

I am not super high volume compared to agency workers so maybe contact their bosses and ask them to test their employees every week. See what they answer.

 

[hobbier]

I have used them before. It's a 400$ bill for a test and no clinic would accept testing you that often.

You didn't respond to my comment.. stop asking for bare oral services, cim etc if you are nervous. We offer these services because you push for it and we need clients.

You have no idea how much money I make and what I have to spend on. I already have health issues that cost me a lot. Your comment is inappropriate.

I am not super high volume compared to agency workers so maybe contact their bosses and ask them to test their employees every week. See what they answer.

the real question is, who wants vs who provides..obviously you dont wantt to leave a few bills on the table, so you provide...if you were so focused on your health you would make the right choice..

kkrack referred you to a very cheap testing option. And btw what s 400 bucks ...one client??? come on...I see max 2 sp per month no bare services and pay 300 for a test

 

[Lunaseraphim]

the real question is, who wants vs who provides..obviously you dont wantt to leave a few bills on the table, so you provide...if you were so focused on your health you would make the right choice..

kkrack referred you to a very cheap testing option. And btw what s 400 bucks ...one client??? come on...I see max 2 sp per month no bare services and pay 300 for a test

I feel like you're trolling me at this point. I go to the same clinic all the time, I have a good relationship with the nurses there. Are you seriously telling me you don't do daty and bbbj?

I get tested every 3 weeks which is more than enough. You're insulting me and I'm not going to continue this conversation.

You just want to diss me about my rates in an unrelated thread and it's ridiculous.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

its their choice to play with strangers and It seems you dont know they have access to free tests...you better stay quiet if you dont know better

The public system doesn't allow us to go every week for free STI tests, it can't support that. It's not how this works. I follow the recommendations of my doctor given my situation, resources available and common sense, your opinion is irrelevant.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

The public system doesn't allow us to go every week for free STI tests, it can't support that. It's not how this works. I follow the recommendations of my doctor given my situation, resources available and common sense, your opinion is irrelevant.

Thank you. No, the public system doesn't allow it. I know prelib, I used to get tested there. I use a different service now.

I happen to have asked my nurse at the clinic I go to, who works with sw a lot, how often he recommends I should, he said getting tested more than twice a month is pointless.

Even in legal brothels on Nevada in which people are obligated to get tested, it definitely does not happen every week.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Maaaan... We can tell you haven't spoken to SPs overall... They say that ignorance is a bliss but in your case, we can see that you need some proper education. Don't talk about things that you're clearly unaware of, because it'll look bad on you.

Honestly, here's my advice : don't presume ANYTHING from the sex work industry. We don't know jack shit from THEIR perspective so perhaps it's better for you to just close your mouth and listen to them, the SP. You might learn a thing or two, maybe.

Nobody seems to do this here.