I did not.My parents had a business in the 80s in the east in that area. Back then it was a poor neighborhood also. They moved their shop elsewhere to Old Montreal. The area is not like that because of stripclubs or bars. It is like that because of poverty. The same problems that existed before is still existent today. That is why I mention NIMBY. They just want it hidden but the same problems exist. There are still prostitutes and rampant drug use. The Gay Village is not recognizable. Some businesses are packing up shop. Nothing really changed in reality, in fact it is worse. When I say seedy, I mean stripclubs, brothels, clubs, after hours clubs. That is what I am talking about. You went off to a totally different tangent.
You are misrepresenting stuff.
Hochelaga Maisonneuve up until the early 1980s was still a vibrant MIDDLE CLASS neighborhood. Always was. My dad was born into that neighbourhood in 1926. ALWAYS was middleclass as many factories were there. Many closed after the war. WW2. But many still hung around. Poverty started creeping up in the mid 1980s in the Hochelaga district.
Where the gay village was, it was not that then. Poverty kicked in that area I suppose in the 1970s. I was born in 1973 but I remember in the late 1970s that that area was not moving. Lots of shops closed. It wasnt dirty or anything. But nothing moved. No business. No nothing.
Downtowns of any city were street prostitution is (was) prevalent was and is always a sign of poverty. And in THAT area, ST Lawrence and Ste Catherine was ALWAYS a poor area.
I told you I was of Greek descent. My dad was Greek but born in Montreal. But My grand dad came here from Greece. I told you my dad was born in 1926. You do the math of when my grand dada could gave possibly immigrated here... My dad chose Hochelega Maisonneuve to live at because he worked in the boiler rooms of some sort of grain depot or something on Notre Dame boulevard...
Anyway...The port to where ALL immigrants came here all the way up UNTIL the late 1960s and into the 1970s WAS and follow to where Saint Lawrence starts at... From italians to Jews to Greeks and ALL other immigrants. I will not talk about Italians, but take a look to where Little Italy is situated on the fucking Montreal map.
Mile End... its where the GREEK immigrants first lived at. Then unto Park Extension. Look at the fucking Montreal map to where all that coincides with Saint Lawrence.
Anyway...immigrants are always a part of a poor neighborhood because immigrants always leave their homeland poor because of their homeland situations, either for economical reasons or for political or for both but come to a new country to start fresh and for a better life. But especially then these folk had no education and they did not speak a lick of French or English. So yeah...poor neighborhood. Hey...it moved and grooved. Also...Jewish people also had immigrated in that area and it was FULL of Jewish establishments. But it was still inhabited by poor folk. There are reasons for why poor English and French people also lived in that area but this is not a lesson in Montreal demographics.
Point being. STOP disinformation...
Poverty will always exist in urban cities. Especially big urban centers. NIMBY will ALWAYS exist and for different reasons... THIS is NOT an argument discussion point. You are just driveling for driveling purposes.
And OH...everybody wants the poor people hidden. EVERYWHERE around the world, urban centers will always hide their homeless, especially when huge world events happen in that city. And Montreal ALWAYS had that reputation anyway. Not quite as far back when Jeanne Mance settled the area and started her hospital...ironically not far from where we are rambling about.
Point being...do not mention Trudeau and wokeness ever again... And stop with the moving of the goal posts. You are not as intelligent as you think you are...






