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..and i like MAC JONES. ..in many ways---look and style---reminds me of TOM ..loll....BUT lon long way to go kid...;)
Mac Jones was a fantastic draft pick by the Patriots and an even better move was for the Patriots to dump Cam Newton! Jones was a great college QB at Alabama were he played lights out in 2020 setting several records! At least Jones is literate and can read and execute the offensive plays of the Belichick playbook!
 
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WOW....another BIG Sunday. :)

---PATRICK who ?????...lollllll......it was all JOSH.....he was just perfect....all over the place....running--passing/big palys.....une bonne défensive....38-20....victoire remarquable.

---SAINTS 33-22 :)....fun to watch.....turnovers and big plays.....WINSTON....not clean clean BUT a good one /big plays.....TAYSOM out with concussion....not a good news...they need need need him....dynamo de cette équipe.

---BUCCS 45-17....wow...TOM TOM TOM again wth 4 TD and more than 400 y......on fire...un train ;)

---BUT the game of the day....CHARGERS 47---BROWNS 42....a crazy one...action action action...le score a changé 8 fois....and what about HERBERT.... performance incroyable....the game of the year...lol

---and GYANTS...no good news there...they lost QB JONES---vraiment ébranlé--sûrement a serious concussion...plus lost receiver GALLADAY and running back BARKLEY......a sad Sunday.

Yep another great SUNDAY.:)
 

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Gaby- Brady actually had 5 TDs and now 15 on the season but Mahomes still leads with 16 TD passes.
Yep true....BUT was refering to yesterday....MAHOMES had an horrible evening....bad bad passing.....bad bad evening for the CHIEFS.....would not b surprise if at the end pf the season TOM shows better stats than PATRICK...i like the kid BUT things are not going
his way until now....their defense as Alan said is one of the worst right now...if not the worst.
 
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Without a defense and a pass rush in the NFL you go nowhere! Even if you are Mahomes with all those offensive stats! It's a team game!
Without a pass rush against most of the quarterbacks in the NFL you are in VERY big trouble. The only way to slow down a QB like Brady (or Allen) is with up the middle pressure from the DL. Gimmicky DB blitzes will not work, it's got to be pure line pressure. This was exactly the reason why the NY Giants beat the Patriots in 2 Super Bowls. Otherwise Brady would now have 9 Super Bowl rings. He does not have 9 rings, only 7, because the Giants in those Super Bowl wins used GROWN MAN DL pressure , up the middle, from the likes of Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora, if you can remember those guys from the famous NASCAR defense. It was none other than Spags, now Kansas City Chiefs Defensive Coordinator, who came up with the idea of putting 3 or even 4 Defensive Ends on the line at one time:

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/201...-package-and-i-cant-wait-to-see-it-in-action/

The funny thing is that Spags, who knows a thing or two about good DLs, thought this current one of KC's would be good back in August. I wonder what he thinks now:

 
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Eager, even when you can generate D-line pressure, the league is so skewed towards offense. Look at that hit the Chiefs got yesterday that led to an INT. It was taken off the board because of a highly questionable roughing the passer penalty against the Chiefs.

Anyway, big news tonight is Jon Gruden quitting the Raiders due to emails for ten years ago. Of course, accusations of "Cancel culture" are going to arise again.

But it's looking like he just offended too many people to stay on. Let's see: calling gay people the "q" word (the only out gay player in the NFL plays for you), insulted black people (a significant ethnicity on your team and the league), you insulted Roger Goodell (I'm not a Goodell fan but I also don't send emails that insult my boss's boss). So yeah, this sucks. Blame the WFT for not having their shit together to the point that all these emails came out because they are being investigated.
 

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Blame the WFT for not having their shit together to the point that all these emails came out because they are being investigated.
All signs are that the NFL offices, not the WFT, leaked the emails to the Wall Street Journal and The NY Times, although it's true the NFL collected the emails as part of the WFT investigation. The NFL did so with calculated intent to get Gruden fired. They likely knew that the content of these emails made a leak of them to the WSJ and NYT unsurvivable.

Why ask the Raiders to fire him when you can shit-leak to important National media and essentially force them to fire him.

Although Gruden likely deserves to be fired, I don't like the pussy tactic of leaking emails to media to cause some result. First of all it completely proves Gruden's statement that Roger Goodell is a pussy. Second, I would like to see some of the NFL's internal emails on various matters get leaked and see how Goodell's popularity does. It's too bad Gruden can't retaliate- although maybe using Allen he can?

You guys think that the NFL's closets are free and clear of skeletons?
 
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GRUDEN stepped down as RAIDERS coach after N.Y.TIMES detailed emails in wich he made misogynistic and homophobic remarks......il avait signé avec les RAIDERS un contrat de 10 ans/100 millions....
 
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All signs are that the NFL offices, not the WFT, leaked the emails to the Wall Street Journal and The NY Times, although it's true the NFL collected the emails as part of the WFT investigation. The NFL did so with calculated intent to get Gruden fired. They likely knew that the content of these emails made a leak of them to the WSJ and NYT unsurvivable.
I don't doubt any of this. My point is no one would have to look at these emails in the first place if the WFT was a well-oiled machine that didn't have to be investigated. It's the franchise's mishaps over the last few years that opened the door to this nonsense. I don't personally identify with any of Gruden's sentiments. But his personal (odious) feelings didn't seem to affect how he did his job. He should have been heavily fined and done the perfunctory sensitivity training. If Gruden got ahead of all this after the lips comment came out, was that route still possible? I don't know.

There's another obvious point of not getting too comfortable in email communications because you never know what's going to happen. Gruden wrote some of these emails as far as 2011 when he wasn't even a coach. That Bruce Allen still kept emails from ten years ago perfectly underscores why you're not in control of what happens to any correspondence once you send it.

As for your last point, I'm certain that almost everyone has a skeleton or two in their closet, even in the NFL. But if your secrets never get exposed, do they exist to the world at all? Obviously not. Through carelessness and misfortune, Gruden got his skeletons exposed. I'm not sure Goodell is that careless.
 

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I'm not sure Goodell is that careless.
We are going to find out if that is the case. Some people could smell the selective releasing/leaking of the Gruden emails, and they detected the odor of rat:
"It is truly outrageous that after the NFL's 10-month long investigation involving hundreds of witnesses and 650,000 documents related to the longtime culture of harassment and abuse at the Washington Football Team, the only person to be held accountable and lose their job is the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders," lawyers Lisa Banks and Debra Katz said in a statement. "If the NFL felt it appropriate to release these offensive emails from Jon Gruden, which it obtained during its investigation into the Washington Football Team, it must also release the findings related to the actual target of that investigation. Our clients and the public at large deserve transparency and accountability. If not, the NFL and [commissioner] Roger Goodell must explain why they appear intent on protecting the Washington Football Team and owner Dan Snyder at all costs."
 

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...If not, the NFL and [commissioner] Roger Goodell must explain why they appear intent on protecting the Washington Football Team and owner Dan Snyder at all costs."
I should be clear that inasmuch as Gruden should bear responsibility for what he wrote, I'm still at unease about what has transpired. But with that said, I don't think Gruden was the target; more like collateral damage. But you can't "unknow" the things he wrote. That's why it's all relevant. For example, until yesterday Carl Nassib didn't know his coach didn't like the fact that the NFL drafted a gay person or routinely used gay slurs in his private correspondences.

But I kept the quote above to rebut the lawyers' assertion of the NFL protecting Daniel Snyder. With all the issues with WFT in recent years, nothing would please Goodell more than removing Snyder. Last August, the Wall Street Journal reported that minority owners were pressuring Snyder to sell the team--and that was well before all the shit we knew since last week. Fans also want Snyder gone. So trust me that if Snyder has any correspondence like what forced out Donald Sterling a few years ago, Goodell would easily use it to get rid of him. I don't know what exact mechanism Goodell would use, but the bottom line is Snyder is already bad for business. So unless Goodell is also personally implicated, I'm personally perplexed that anyone thinks the NFL is covering up an already embattled owner.
 

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I should be clear that inasmuch as Gruden should bear responsibility for what he wrote, I'm still at unease about what has transpired. But with that said, I don't think Gruden was the target; more like collateral damage. But you can't "unknow" the things he wrote. That's why it's all relevant. For example, until yesterday Carl Nassib didn't know his coach didn't like the fact that the NFL drafted a gay person or routinely used gay slurs in his private correspondences.

But I kept the quote above to rebut the lawyers' assertion of the NFL protecting Daniel Snyder. With all the issues with WFT in recent years, nothing would please Goodell more than removing Snyder. Last August, the Wall Street Journal reported that minority owners were pressuring Snyder to sell the team--and that was well before all the shit we knew since last week. Fans also want Snyder gone. So trust me that if Snyder has any correspondence like what forced out Donald Sterling a few years ago, Goodell would easily use it to get rid of him. I don't know what exact mechanism Goodell would use, but the bottom line is Snyder is already bad for business. So unless Goodell is also personally implicated, I'm personally perplexed that anyone thinks the NFL is covering up an already embattled owner.
Carmine,

I think your post misses that the role of the Commissioner in the NFL is slightly different than in other sports leagues. Roger Goodell is essentially a glorified Butler for all of the NFL owners- he works for and is paid by them ($40 million a year). I think Dan Snyder has developed a small, but sufficient amount of clout with his fellow owners. This is all that matters, not that minority owners disliked his stewardship of the the team and tried to buy him out. The NFL ownership does not want to see one of their flock toppled by the Commissioner, because it will only invite scrutiny of their own glass houses (Snyder likely also has dirt on all of them, and Goodell, that needs to be left in the ground). Plus as long as WFT is dysfunctional, yet still selling out their games and is minimally competitive and making money, it works for the other NFL owners. I think this Washington Post article, which compares Goodell to the famous police Inspector Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca, is on target:



Is it so much sweeping of detritus under the rug? Of course it is.
 
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