Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

[CLOUD 500]

That is not something I've said, at all. I also have an issue with female pimps and know that male victims also exist. Argument rejeté

One minor is already too much and this isn't the only thing that went wrong. But we're going in circles. You (not all men, let me be clear) are part of the 2nd group of people I mentioned earlier, clearly. There's no point continuing this conversation as you won't change my mind and I won't change yours

You totally missed my point.

Acquittement d’un « sugar daddy » | La juge dénonce une « banalisation inquiétante de la prostitution »

C’est l’histoire d’une ado de 15 ans qui ment pour se faire de l’argent rapidement et d’un « sugar daddy » prêt à « soutenir » une « sugar baby » pour du sexe. Mais c’est surtout une illustration malheureuse de la « banalisation inquiétante de la prostitution et de la glorification de la...

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^^^^ This article posted by Anthony is the kind of thing I am talking about.

 

[Julia Sky]

You totally missed my point.

Acquittement d’un « sugar daddy » | La juge dénonce une « banalisation inquiétante de la prostitution »

C’est l’histoire d’une ado de 15 ans qui ment pour se faire de l’argent rapidement et d’un « sugar daddy » prêt à « soutenir » une « sugar baby » pour du sexe. Mais c’est surtout une illustration malheureuse de la « banalisation inquiétante de la prostitution et de la glorification de la...

www.lapresse.ca

^^^^ This article posted by Anthony is the kind of thing I am talking about.

You'd think someone operating a prostitution agency would ask for ID and take steps to ensure said ID is legit. This article talks about a sugar daddy believing words he was told, which isn't the same situation as a pimp being utterly careless. Both situations suck but they are not comparable

 

[kstanb]

Reasons to worry go beyond criminal liability. People were arrested and there might be a trial. Who knows what the prosecutors will submit as evidence. We know they have all the numbers and if they are used in the trial they become part of the public record

who's phone is in the XO list?

how many phone numbers?

 

[pat98]

I'm curious.....If Google translate is correct, it's saying the undercover escort quit on her first day after the 3rd "client" as those 3 clients were all undercover. How did they ensure a real john didn't book one for those early slots?

I second that, it bugs my mind
How were they able to have the 3 male undercovers aligned perfectly as to allow the female undercover to call it a day?
One thing is sure, it then would means 3-4 hours to document a lot, take pictures etc... and even having a ... 4some lol

 

[kstanb]

I'm curious.....If Google translate is correct, it's saying the undercover escort quit on her first day after the 3rd "client" as those 3 clients were all undercover. How did they ensure a real john didn't book one for those early slots?

I've been a customer with XO since they first started. How far they have fallen if they did commit these allegations. Is is unsuitable business model (expenses exceed revenue) or ultimately just plain greed?

Finally this should be a wakeup call agencies to consider not even going into the 18-20 market. It represents an elevated risk that can bring down the entire operation.

option 1: she somehow feels sick and cancel the regular John

option 2: Fuck the police, fuck the— fuck the—

 

[CLOUD 500]

You'd think someone operating a prostitution agency would ask for ID and take steps to ensure said ID is legit. This article talks about a sugar daddy believing words he was told, which isn't the same situation as a pimp being utterly careless. Both situations suck but they are not comparable

Reread my OP. As in the case of O'Gascon, they checked IDs and they ask the girls to show two IDs which is the norm of for most stripclubs but the girl had a very well made fake IDs. You do know it is not hard to get a fake ID from the black market? So how is it the club's fault? They still got penalized. As for XO, the details on that is missing and I doubt it will be released.

 

[Julia Sky]

Not reading the comments is self care, I think I've made my opinion clear enough. Have a lovely day everyone!

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

I second that, it bugs my mind
How were they able to have the 3 male undercovers aligned perfectly as to allow the female undercover to call it a day?
One thing is sure, it then would means 3-4 hours to document a lot, take pictures etc... and even having a ... 4some lol

Undercover escort knew her schedule in advance the the UC clients refreshed the schedule at 10 pm (like some of our esteemed colleagues do) to get the first three slots. If there was a regular client who managed to get a slot she could have refused him for X reason. Less likely but possible, they infiltrated the agency and there was an undercover booker.

 

[boboi]

Kinda of a rook

Undercover escort knew her schedule in advance the the UC clients refreshed the schedule at 10 pm (like some of our esteemed colleagues do) to get the first three slots. If there was a regular client who managed to get a slot she could have refused him for X reason. Less likely but possible, they infiltrated the agency and there was an undercover booker.

Kinda of a rookie mistake, experienced agencies always test the new girl with trusted clients....for many reasons...I feel like the cops had other moves or tools that are keeping secret

 

[kstanb]

Kinda of a rook

Kinda of a rookie mistake, experienced agencies always test the new girl with trusted clients....for many reasons...I feel like the cops had other moves or tools that are keeping secret

I don't know how much this trusted client scenario can work

the policewoman just needs to record the client giving her the envelope with the money, then get in the washroom and call the cavalry,

the cops would get in in minutes and get the john; enough to prove there is prostitution happening there

 

[Flabert]

It is not all paradise with Indys either. Many are being pimped and coerced. Best not to generalize and put all in the same boat. There are bad agencies and good ones. Agencies also provide protection for the girls.

They also make things convenient for clients and providers.

Some stars at agencies pop on a few hours a month, do no pr/marketing and collect a good pay for tough work but without the toil of renting a place, hosting, dealing with non-serious customers, etc.

Agencies at time do block problematic customers which benefits providers…

 

[CLOUD 500]

They also make things convenient for clients and providers.

Some stars at agencies pop on a few hours a month, do no pr/marketing and collect a good pay for tough work but without the toil of renting a place, hosting, dealing with non-serious customers, etc.

Agencies at time do block problematic customers which benefits providers…

Exactly

 

[transatlantic]

I don't know how much this trusted client scenario can work

the policewoman just needs to record the client giving her the envelope with the money, then get in the washroom and call the cavalry,

the cops would get in in minutes and get the john; enough to prove there is prostitution happening there

Except the normal process here is payment afterwards. There was only 1 XO girl in my encounters asking for money upfront and we did engage in expected services so she wasn't undercover.

Note to self, walk away if she demands payment upfront.

 

[LeDodo]

I don't know how much this trusted client scenario can work

the policewoman just needs to record the client giving her the envelope with the money, then get in the washroom and call the cavalry,

the cops would get in in minutes and get the john; enough to prove there is prostitution happening there

No need.

A new thread has just appeared for the purpose of collecting it!

Thread 'Recherche de témoignages d'hommes utilisateurs de services d'escortes - Région de Québec

 

[skarsga]

no charges filed relating to the underage victim from 2017? Insufficient evidence?

This entire industry is an underbelly if you go strictly by LE.
There are truly dangerous elements that involve coercion, narcotics, trafficking, etc which seem to be the target of efforts like this investigation.

Then there is everybody else. A zealous prosecutor could nail anyone to the wall or, even without a conviction, drag someone thru the mud and ruin them.

On the John's side, the culpability seems clear. However, I don't see the impetus to pursue any of us unless you are world famous or are engaged in something truly nefarious.

not anyone on the supply side (indy or agency) is probably paying taxes. There are years of financial crimes, tax evasion, money laundering that could catch up. Ever facilitated a duo? That seems like it could be construed as procurement. But it's allot of work to pursue things like that for very little gain.

Great article, but it seems incomplete. To me, it seems like the other shoe is yet to drop.

 

[transatlantic]

I second that, it bugs my mind
How were they able to have the 3 male undercovers aligned perfectly as to allow the female undercover to call it a day?
One thing is sure, it then would means 3-4 hours to document a lot, take pictures etc... and even having a ... 4some lol

I'm sure a lot has been left out in the article. But only thing that illustrates is XO booked three guys to go to a room and give a woman cash. Short of LE recording the john discussing a quid-pro-quo and then handling the cash, this is not slam dunk.

My own communications with XO has always been is <her name> available at 6PM? That's it. Nothing else discussed; no services, no price mentioned.

Trafficking a minor is completely separate from my point. If they did allegedly do that, they should be prosecuted for it.

 

[DetectiveBOOBS]

Except the normal process here is payment afterwards. There was only 1 XO girl in my encounters asking for money upfront and we did engage in expected services so she wasn't undercover.

Note to self, walk away if she demands payment upfront.

I remember euphoria asking payment upfront since 2024. Indies all ask for payment upfront as well.

Donation upfront can make a lady feel more at east so I have higher chance of getting a good experience. I do my homework well and so far, didn’t had any horrible experience that I regret. Win win

Note to self, change my phone number just in case and never book with agencies again

 

[observer29]

I remember euphoria asking payment upfront since 2024. Indies all ask for payment upfront as well.

Donation upfront can make a lady feel more at east so I have higher chance of getting a good experience. I do my homework well and so far, didn’t had any horrible experience that I regret. Win win

Note to self, change my phone number just in case and never book with agencies again

Yeah. People continuing to book incall are playing with fire right now.

Even outcall could be sketchy.

 

[LC18]

When I was 17 I definitely had sex with men above 20, I would even say men in their 40s none of them thought it would be relevant to ask for my IDs. If they had been caught they would have been in trouble

Because then again, there’s virtually no difference between a 18 and a 17 year old

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

I'm sure a lot has been left out in the article. But only thing that illustrates is XO booked three guys to go to a room and give a woman cash. Short of LE recording the john discussing a quid-pro-quo and then handling the cash, this is not slam dunk.

My own communications with XO has always been is <her name> available at 6PM? That's it. Nothing else discussed; no services, no price mentioned.

Trafficking a minor is completely separate from my point. If they did allegedly do that, they should be prosecuted for it.

You are besides the point. Read 286.3 carefully

Criminal Code

Federal laws of Canada

laws-lois.justice.gc.ca