I see plenty of agency girls who don't work often, a lot do small shifts when they do work and some even have mandatory 2hours appointments.
I do not think this is correct, this "late fee" refers to if she arrived to the agreed appointment late. (For example, her schedule started at 10am and she arrived at 10:20am). In this case, the client was credited a certain amount due to shortened appt and it came out of the girl's earning.
But you are generalizing.
You are correct that it is not always black and white and there are grey areas.
As has been pointed out, at least some were blackmailed into staying. Not so easy to walk away.
Do you realize the double standard in place here ?
Where are you guys taking that from? I see girls come and go every week on Euphoria's website, to give one example. Did it ever happened in the history of the industry? Probably. Is it common practice? Really doubt it.
How do you know with certainty that some girls weren’t coerced? Blackmailed? Misled from sugar dating websites? Made to stay because now hooked on expensive substances?
We are discussing the abuse that has taken place, and that might still happen today, by some agencies, to some providers in the industry. No one here implied that it's common practice.
Yup. There is no excuse in Canada. We have all kinds of ressources. It's all about hedonism and greed. Nothing the father of 17 year old girl mentioned in the article could've done. She would've sneaked around him anyway like a lot of teen girls do.
Was not referring to either. Everyone who was around 2005-2010 knows who I am referring to. Pointless to name names because others had the same or similar structures. I also remember a consortium of "independents" that Tom of blue board was allegedly behind. Not sure of what the truth was on any of it, but the point is nobody knows. We are using labels that in some cases may not be real. The word "independent" is malleable in some cases and may mean something else.
some massage parlours are ethically run. The 2 I use are. I often asked the girls how they like the place and the biggest complaint i hear is "it is quiet, not enough clients". Thses places have had girls work there 5-7 years+ (even 10 years), which says a lot imho
She could still leave. They would expose her but she was not held at gun point. As per what Rabbit said she quit either way after a few months.
When she cancels the business incurs a loss. The incall costs money, it is planned the budget. Clients time is also valuable.
How do you know? Were you in it? Because everything said is alleged and hearsay at best.
How do you know? Did you work at XO? Were you in it? Anything said is alleged.
No, I deal in cold hard facts. I dislike this victim hood mentality that the media has been playing for a long time. The La Presse article is biased.
They still could leave. They were not threatened with violence, no one held them at gunpoint. How many girls we seen on XO's roster that left? Many. Were they all coerced?? If we really want to talk about coercion see what is happening in third world countries with human trafficking cases where young girls are threatened with actual violence. We are in an occidental country, they can leave. Okay they will tell their family that they worked as escorts but still they can leave. Even war criminal were able to flee.
I understand from what you are saying that you do not know what's a power dynamic, what's abuse and exploitation.
No. I just do not agree with it. In the same sense all companies hiring people making them work more and more for less money while CEOs and managers keep on stuffing more money into their pockets can be considered exploitation in the way you defined it. The corporations has the power. Same kind of thing happening at Amazones. We can agree to disagree.
