I have come to realize that wanting to run an agency is like wanting to run for president/PM. Those who want to do it are wrong for the job, and those who are right for the job would never want to do it.
Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning
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I have come to realize that wanting to run an agency is like wanting to run for president/PM. Those who want to do it are wrong for the job, and those who are right for the job would never want to do it.
C’est la fondation de notre système de justice
Knowing I am a criminal (as a client, law wise), I would want the agency to keep a low profile and be as inconspicuous as possible.
Usually everything out of just for a dwelling is excluded. Or at least they need to specify if it's a business activity.
I guess you decided to believe the myth that all Indys are ethical
are you comfortable funding the life style of her BF? Is that ethical? What about degenerate families that syphon money from their escort daughters? Is that ethical?There's still power dynamic, you still have control over her pay check, she will give you whatever version of her story that makes you the most comfortable, you will never know the truth.... sorry to bust your pink bubble.
And you would tell the police those drugs must be amazing because you heard the client and the dealer scream of pleasure like they were having sex
Nobody is bursting my pink bubble because I don’t have one.I guess you decided to believe the myth that all Indys are ethical
There's still power dynamic, you still have control over her pay check, she will give you whatever version of her story that makes you the most comfortable, you will never know the truth.... sorry to bust your pink bubble.
Where did I say that all Indy’s are ethical or can’t be bad people.
Quite frankly her BF life is not my main concern when I see them, they obviously have a life outside of escorting which is not my business.
The ones I see I have known for over 8 years so yes I believe them to be kind and nice ladies. They are to me and treat me well those are facts.
There are many indies who are drug addicts, mentally unstable and some just plain scam artists same goes for clients. I don’t have my head in the sand infact I would say that many SP, iIndy or agency have huge issues and it is part of the reason they turned to escorting.
Basically I very rarely see new ladies and the ones I do are usually recommended by the ones I have known for a long time.
Here's a testimony from someone who worked at XO and decided to go public with their own experience:
www.985fm.ca
Ses agresseurs arrêtés | Agence d’escortes démantelée à Montréal: une des victimes témoigne
Écoutez le témoignage de Clémentine, 26 ans, victime d exploitation sexuelle, mercredi à Radio textos avec Marie Eve Tremblay.
Here's a testimony from someone who worked at XO and decided to go public with their own experience:
Ses agresseurs arrêtés | Agence d’escortes démantelée à Montréal: une des victimes témoigne
Écoutez le témoignage de Clémentine, 26 ans, victime d exploitation sexuelle, mercredi à Radio textos avec Marie Eve Tremblay.
"survivante de l'agence d'escorte montréalaise XO"
Après on se demande pourquoi on ne crois plus aux média... Combien de fille sont décédé chez XO?
Je veux pas excuser les responsable de cette version XO 2.0 qui ont été horrible, mais calice survivante...
Here's a testimony from someone who worked at XO and decided to go public with their own experience:
Ses agresseurs arrêtés | Agence d’escortes démantelée à Montréal: une des victimes témoigne
Écoutez le témoignage de Clémentine, 26 ans, victime d exploitation sexuelle, mercredi à Radio textos avec Marie Eve Tremblay.
That’s insane!
So this confirms that there was mental, physical and financial abuse going on at XO.
Clementine clearly says that she was fined up to $100 for lateness, that she was beaten up and that bookers didn’t care even if she told them she wasn’t comfortable with the clients
Are the people still going to defend XO?
Elle a survécu à des abus répétés, c’est pas suffisant ça?
In my opinion LE doesn't get involved, the landlords don't get involved, or the neighbors just don't care. I know personally that because I used to host from home, I'm hyper aware of discretion.
I have no boyfriend or children lol that's not even relevant broI guess you decided to believe the myth that all Indys are ethical
There's still power dynamic, you still have control over her pay check, she will give you whatever version of her story that makes you the most comfortable, you will never know the truth.... sorry to bust your pink bubble.
mais l'état ne poursuivra pas si la victime retire sa plainte et refuse de témoigner... car impossible d'établir une preuve, à moins d'avoir enregistré des faits par caméras cachés comme on l'a vu dans des enquêtes de longue haleine contre le crime organisé mafieux.
Mais le problème c'est juste une personne. Plusieurs filles ont été abusées
They don't literally mean life or death. There's a reason people use the term survivor in relation to rape, for instance, or abuse.
I've been thinking about this a lot since the news broke, and I can't get my head around what happened there. I mean, I can - it's not hard to comprehend - but I guess it just makes me really unhappy with the state of it all. It's awful and sad and should never be allowed to happen. I feel so bad for any underage girls who were not mature enough to make the right choices, or were perhaps forced into it in some way and were taken advantage of. Same for women who felt they had no way out - whether they did or didn't doesn't much matter if they were made to feel that way. This is a very vulnerable line of work, and we'd best remember that. I honestly have no idea how many of these women do it, and very often performed at a high level for hours on end. I, as a man, would not have been able. Women who were mistreated by clients... that pisses me off. Savages.
The owners of the agency... I suppose the logical side should have known better... and though I did not book often with XO, I never encountered any issues, and the women always seemed to be doing alright. I hope they were. I've always tried to make them feel at ease with the arrangement, and always told them to tell me if they weren't comfortable with something. So I somehow thought that overall the agency was run well, that it was at the very least staying out of trouble. While this isn't exactly a wake-up call, it's certainly a reminder of what's what. It disgusts me that I ever gave them money and contributed to their "success". I hope the owners are punished to the max.
I don't think this line of work should be stigmatized, and I don't think clients should be shamed. It's tough, though, and I don't think there's a reasonable chance of that changing in my lifetime, at least not on a large scale.
On a personal level, I am at least somewhat concerned that this situation with the police will widen, and they will start coming after clients based on the phone numbers and text messages they have. Who knows if they have hundreds or thousands? Or less. While I suspect they will not, given the past, I guess for the next several months there will be that little voice in the back of my head that wonders if I might get a phone call or a knock at the door. Perhaps unreasonable. But maybe something we should consider.
Much to think about. But I will never use an agency ever again, no matter how well it is supposedly run. Taking a long break... or maybe just stepping back for good from this hobby.
The owners of the agency... I suppose the logical side should have known better... and though I did not book often with XO, I never encountered any issues, and the women always seemed to be doing alright. I hope they were. I've always tried to make them feel at ease with the arrangement, and always told them to tell me if they weren't comfortable with something. So I somehow thought that overall the agency was run well, that it was at the very least staying out of trouble. While this isn't exactly a wake-up call, it's certainly a reminder of what's what. It disgusts me that I ever gave them money and contributed to their "success". I hope the owners are punished to the max.
I don't think this line of work should be stigmatized, and I don't think clients should be shamed. It's tough, though, and I don't think there's a reasonable chance of that changing in my lifetime, at least not on a large scale.
On a personal level, I am at least somewhat concerned that this situation with the police will widen, and they will start coming after clients based on the phone numbers and text messages they have. Who knows if they have hundreds or thousands? Or less. While I suspect they will not, given the past, I guess for the next several months there will be that little voice in the back of my head that wonders if I might get a phone call or a knock at the door. Perhaps unreasonable. But maybe something we should consider.
Much to think about. But I will never use an agency ever again, no matter how well it is supposedly run. Taking a long break... or maybe just stepping back for good from this hobby.
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