Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

[RobertNYC]

Predicting witness success and failure in Court is something you do not fully understand until you have lived it. Sometimes you prep a party witness and think they will be great, but then they fold like a cheap suitcase after a few slightly difficult questions. Other times you think, despite your best preparation, that the party witness will fail, and instead they surprise you.

We are talking about non party witnesses, of course, but the prosecution will have the chance to vet and prep them just as in the Hockey Canada case. And just as I do with party witnesses.

The 2 best party witness testimonies I ever heard were completely unexpected. One came in a civil trial I had in January of this year. I was certain we were going down after I prepared the client for his testimony. He could not remember anything, was listless, and worst of all, was seemingly disinterested. It was so bad that I had to bring him back for a second day of preparation which went only slightly better. I told one of the other attorneys at my firm that there was not enough lipstick in the world to cover this pig. I mentally prepared for going down in flames.

Then we got to Court and a funny thing happened. He listened to the other side testify. It stoked him, fired him up. When I put him on the stand he was spitting fire. During cross-examination he turned around questions he was being asked on the questioner in a way that showed the questions to be ridiculous. He ate the cross-examination up, in a way I never saw. I almost could not believe what I was hearing, because I had not heard it in 2 days of preparation, EVER. It's called Courtroom Magic. I have seen it, and when you help make the magic, even in some very small way, it's like having an orgasm from sex.

Unfortunately, it does not happen often and sometimes you are on the wrong side of the Magic. And when you are on the other side of the Magic, instead of leaving Court feeling enthralled, you leave Court feeling sick to your stomach and wanting to vomit. I have experienced both sides of it many times, and in many different degrees of success or failure. But back in January I was on the right side of it in a big way. We won, and I had my Lincoln Lawyer moment. Maybe for the year or maybe for the rest of my career. But I will take it!!!!

Great analysis and perspective, EB. And good for you on case!

I don’t know very much about Canadian law, but it’s possible this case never makes it to a courtroom. In cases such as this, I think there is a sensitivity to owners threatening to reveal prominent clients, including law enforcement and politicians. This has the markings of a case that could be resolved well before then, it seems.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Great analysis and perspective, EB. And good for you on case!

I don’t know very much about Canadian law, but it’s possible this case never makes it to a courtroom. This has the markings of a case that could be resolved well before then, it seems.

I agree. I doubt it will go to trial and more likely is a resolution along the lines of what you suggested- "restitution" of the "avails or proceeds of prostitution" in some amount to the Crown. Of course, if the defendants do not have any money, then it becomes a bit more problematic.

A trial in a case like this would be interesting, though.

 

[minutemenX]

Alcohol and weed are legalized, not decriminalized, case in point. They are not the same thing.

Escorts already have to pay taxes. In fact you're going to shit yourself when you learn there's already a business code for escorting specifically!!

We dont charge the tax on top of our rate - it is factored in. The same way plenty of professionals don't explicitly charge it but it's factored in the price.

Also many businesses aren't regulated in this manner. There are general laws that apply to everyone, but not every single industry has industry specific mandatory rules...

you obviously do not understand what the sale tax is (GST/QST). You charge it on behalf of the government. It has nothing to do with your personal income.

 

[Flabert]

you obviously do not understand what the sale tax is (GST/QST). You charge it on behalf of the government. It has nothing to do with your personal income.

You are mostly right but there are exceptions for small businesses (less than 30,000$ in gross revenues) in Canada. I doubt most agencies would fly under that 30,000$ limit (and to be fair you have to be well under it not to collect GST because you will be audited if you are close to 30k) and hard to imagine CRA would believe that an agency is not a business but that each individual worker is its actual business and some go under some over 30k. The rules to be an independent operator are quite stringent and would not likely apply to an agency (you need to control when, where and how you work, how much you charge and engage your own tools vs using the tools of the employer). You also often need to show that you can and would split your time between different channels depending on their need and that those customers agree to that.

 

[Flabert]

Predicting witness success and failure in Court is something you do not fully understand until you have lived it. Sometimes you prep a party witness and think they will be great, but then they fold like a cheap suitcase after a few slightly difficult questions. Other times you think, despite your best preparation, that the party witness will fail, and instead they surprise you.

We are talking about non party witnesses, of course, but the prosecution will have the chance to vet and prep them just as in the Hockey Canada case. And just as I do with party witnesses.

The 2 best party witness testimonies I ever heard were completely unexpected. One came in a civil trial I had in January of this year. I was certain we were going down after I prepared the client for his testimony. He could not remember anything, was listless, and worst of all, was seemingly disinterested. It was so bad that I had to bring him back for a second day of preparation which went only slightly better. I told one of the other attorneys at my firm that there was not enough lipstick in the world to cover this pig. I mentally prepared for going down in flames.

Then we got to Court and a funny thing happened. He listened to the other side testify. It stoked him, fired him up. When I put him on the stand he was spitting fire. During cross-examination he turned around questions he was being asked on the questioner in a way that showed the questions to be ridiculous. He ate the cross-examination up, in a way I never saw. I almost could not believe what I was hearing, because I had not heard it in 2 days of preparation, EVER. It's called Courtroom Magic. I have seen it, and when you help make the magic, even in some very small way, it's like having an orgasm from sex.

Unfortunately, it does not happen often and sometimes you are on the wrong side of the Magic. And when you are on the other side of the Magic, instead of leaving Court feeling enthralled, you leave Court feeling sick to your stomach and wanting to vomit. I have experienced both sides of it many times, and in many different degrees of success or failure. But back in January I was on the right side of it in a big way. We won, and I had my Lincoln Lawyer moment. Maybe for the year or maybe for the rest of my career. But I will take it!!!!

Have you read the transcripts of the hockey case? The plaintiff’s facts collapsed from simple questions the prosecution had a duty (in Canada) to check before continuing with charges.

The video of the event contradicted her story, her texts contradicted her story, her witnesses contradicted her story and then even her story contradicted her story. It is rare for a plaintiff to get the “this witness has lied so much that the jury can disregard the entirety of her testimony” stamp from the judge. She lied about trivial as well as damning facts and it was not just a memory issue (which you can reasonable invoke in court).

Canada is not like the US - the crown has advantages (can appeal a non-guilty cases and plaintiff background is even more off limit) but judges are more on the side of the defendant (often because they are not elected) and you almost never see courthouse magic. It comes down more to sheer courthouse boredom

 

[EagerBeaver]

Have you read the transcripts of the hockey case? The plaintiff’s facts collapsed from simple questions the prosecution had a duty (in Canada) to check before continuing with charges.

The video of the event contradicted her story, her texts contradicted her story, her witnesses contradicted her story and then even her story contradicted her story. It is rare for a plaintiff to get the “this witness has lied so much that the jury can disregard the entirety of her testimony” stamp from the judge. She lied about trivial as well as damning facts and it was not just a memory issue (which you can reasonable invoke in court).

Canada is not like the US - the crown has advantages (can appeal a non-guilty cases and plaintiff background is even more off limit) but judges are more on the side of the defendant (often because they are not elected) and you almost never see courthouse magic. It comes down more to sheer courthouse boredom

I am aware the Prosecution should not have presented the witness- IN HINDSIGHT. I am not here to excuse them, but to suggest that sometimes things get away from you and a witness does worse than expected. Or better. Also, you do not bail on a witness just because there are contradictions in her story or with her story and that of other witnesses. Only lightweight cowards do that. Sometimes you try to work around those things and can, and sometimes you have no choice but to do those things, and hope for the best. And sometimes it just does not go in well.

I am gonna read between the lines here and say that the lower level prosecutors who tried the case did so on orders from up above because the case was very political. The person who gave the orders may not have known or else fully cared about the problems with the case. As a young, low level associate, many times I had a file thrown on my desk with orders to go try a case that was a piece of shit and was a predestined loser. It was so I could take the loss and not the partner. Shit flows downhill, Flabert, not uphill. And I think the higher ups did not appreciate or else did not care about all the problems with the case. They also get to sit back and blame the low level prosecutors who tried the shit case. This is how it works in this business.

 

[jmioffe]

I agree with your conclusion that women have more power in the transactional aspect, but not as to your reasoning. I am no longer active as a client (as another poster has already mentioned), and haven't been in 7-8 years. During my prime years which were approximately 2000-2017, I was primarily motivated by a powerful libido. I frequently overpaid whatever was deemed the market rate, often felt empty afterwards, but nevertheless repeated the process because the libido was simply too powerful. I always did what I thought was necessary to make the woman I was seeing comfortable including buying gifts and booking longer dates. It was an addiction in a physical sense, although it never reached the point where it caused me any financial harm. I always stayed in my lane financially.

What happened to me is what will eventually happen to all of you. I got old, developed health issues, and the libido faded. It's actually faded to the point where I have even given up the SB sites I had dabbled in for the past however many years. I lost the desire. I do not feel any sense of loss, however. I am actually slightly relieved that the libido doesn't compel me to do it any more. I never would have imagined that I would be comfortable without sex being part of my life, but I am. It almost seemed to define me at one point, but now it's not a part of my life any more. I suppose it is since I am still here, but in the business sense, it is long gone.

Wow, I remember reading your reviews when you were still active. Two decades and you're out? Age 15 to 35? Or 30 to 50?

I'm curious because I've also slowed down. My last visits were in 2022, though I have come to visit Montreal several times since then.

Why do you still participate here?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Wow, I remember reading your reviews when you were still active. Two decades and you're out? Age 15 to 35? Or 30 to 50?

I'm curious because I've also slowed down. My last visits were in 2022, though I have come to visit Montreal several times since then.

Why do you still participate here?

I am in my 60s, but have health issues now that have wrecked me. The biggest one being high blood pressure and pills that seriously, seriously seriously limpen the penis to say the very least. I would like to get off them but that will probably never happen.

Why do I participate here? Sad to say, but boredom, and amusement on something I once was a part of.

 

[RobertNYC]

I am in my 60s, but have health issues now that have wrecked me. The biggest one being high blood pressure and pills that seriously, seriously seriously limpen the penis to say the very least. I would like to get off them but that will probably never happen.

Why do I participate here? Sad to say, but boredom, and amusement on something I once was a part of.

Don’t leave EB. You’re always worth a read and how else will we get CT pizza reviews? I also enjoy your somewhat familiarity with the NYC escort scene, particularly during the golden era.

Did you not mention one time (and forgive me if I’m confusing you with another Merbite) you were booking appointments but just never FS because of the health limitations you described?

As I get older (and you have a few years on me), I’m enjoying full contact strip clubs as much as escorts. Easier on the wallet, a longer lasting evening, candy store selection with interesting chat and you can leave happy with a good lap dance grind. Many are rip offs, the underground in NYC is good but my fav is in central Jersey. Throw in Hooters in nearby East Brunswick and a guy has a good evening.

Your transition away from booking appointments without sour grapes or woe is me is really admirable.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

you obviously do not understand what the sale tax is (GST/QST). You charge it on behalf of the government. It has nothing to do with your personal income.

I don't think what she said contradicts what you said. She just said that our rates (for those who pay sales taxes) are inclusive of GST/QST. But you don't know since I don't write it on my website.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Did you not mention one time (and forgive me if I’m confusing you with another Merbite) you were booking appointments but just never FS because of the health limitations you described?

That is correct, it was me. Towards the end of my sexually active days.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Why would charges be dropped? I tried to look but it's really not easy to get this information online. By the way, did you remember that she was charged with the following counts as well?

• Possession for the Purpose of Trafficking – Cocaine
• Possession for the Purpose of Trafficking – Fentanyl

As always, the suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Also worth noting that media uses "human trafficking" in their headline while no such charges have been pressed, according to the same article.

Halton police charge woman in human trafficking case

Investigators allege that over an 18-month period, an adult female victim was trafficked in the sex trade across the Greater Toronto Area.

toronto.citynews.ca

Somehow i expected that the guy would be the one that would be prosecuted and it would turn out she was under his "grip" or something. Maybe testify against him or such. Maybe i am just too naive.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don't think what she said contradicts what you said. She just said that our rates (for those who pay sales taxes) are inclusive of GST/QST. But you don't know since I don't write it on my website.

Thank you. I'm too tired for this

 

[EastWind]

so Maya's angel website is down and they stopped posting on merb on Feb 16.... .in link with this story or is it the next story to come out??

Oh boy.....

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I am definitely keeping my eyes peeled for what will be the impact on current agencies, curious to see if things will change.

 

[minutemenX]

Thank you. I'm too tired for this

Girls, with all due respect and understanding your frustration I still think that you do not know what you are talking about and have never run a real business. If you run registered business, you must collect GST/QST if your sales are above $30/year and show to corresponding government agency during audit the list of all transactions that states the date and the amount of sale. Government also now demands that most sales are noncash and thus are easy verifiable through banks.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Girls, with all due respect and understanding your frustration I still think that you do not know what you are talking about and have never run a real business. If you run registered business, you must collect GST/QST if your sales are above $30/year and show to corresponding government agency during audit the list of all transactions that states the date and the amount of sale. Government also now demands that most sales are noncash and thus are easy verifiable through banks.

Tell me again after you see my invoices and receipts and the thousands in GST/QST I send the government every quarter. And don’t start me on taxes installments every quarter. Tell me again then that I don’t know what I am talking about.

I am speaking on my behalf even though you are quoting Luna.

It’s time client stop thinking escorts can’t do maths and that we’re above taxes.

 

[terrybogard88]

Tell me again after you see my invoices and receipts and the thousands in GST/QST I send the government every quarter. And don’t start me on taxes installments every quarter. Tell me again then that I don’t know what I am talking about.

I am speaking on my behalf even though you are quoting Luna.

It’s time client stop thinking escorts can’t do maths and that we’re above taxes.

Related to what @minutemenX is saying tho, if for example i book through your website my dear, and then some good things happen, will you then give me an invoice or some bill that i will pay and then you would provide a payment receipt ? Because that s how it works for traceability regarding taxes. Am i gonna see your TPS/TVQ IDs on the receipt as well as the registered company name / number ? Just curious

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I just deleted my comment because it’s far from the main subject, and I’m expected to prove how serious I am and the knowledge I have while being spoken to like I’m a baby. I will stop indulging you @terrybogard88, and the other « boys ».

 

[terrybogard88]

Okay okay yes it was a parenthesis, a little detour. With all the respect that you deserve, my dears. No prob we can get back to the topic