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NY Gov Spitzer linked to Prostitution Ring

Question: Should Spitzer be Prosecuted?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 28.8%
  • No

    Votes: 37 71.2%

  • Total voters
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EagerBeaver

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bumfie said:
The sad fact of the matter is that some people get a big thrill out of that knock coming on the hotel room door. I am one of them, so I would never cast stones.

bumfie, I am with you on this, but Spitzer never heard Kristen's knock because she was already in room 871 of the Mayflower Hotel when he got there. He left the door ajar and she entered before he did. If you ask me that's even better. Can you imagine checking in at the Intercontinental and having a drop dead gorgeous girl waiting for you when you opened the door to your room?
 

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EagerBeaver said:
By the ways did you guys know that the Mayflower Hotel, where Spitzer banged Kristen, is also where Bill Clinton banged Lewinsky on more than one occasion?
No. No. No. No. No. He never had "sex" with "that woman.":D
 

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If (I mean when) Spitzer goes, the new governor will not only be NY's first black governor...he'll be NY's (and I would imagine the U.S.'s) first BLIND governor.

At least that means he won't be surfing escort sites.
 

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bumfie said:
he'll be NY's (and I would imagine the U.S.'s) first BLIND governor.
NY is still wainting for a gov that is not blind and dumb.
 

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Eliot Spitzer said:
My guess is the NY governors office has its own assigned team of state guards (probably detailed from the NY state police) who have to be with the guv all the time.

Spitzer is guarded by a New York State police detail, and guess what? Reports are now surfacing that he sneaked past them- basically faking out his own personal security detail - in order to get to room 871 to meet Kristen.

I kind of think a deal could have been worked out with the Canadian authorities to let him and his security cops into Canada, with their weapons, if they had a legitimate, lawful reason for being in Canada (such as to pursue his feigned skiing obsession at Mount Tremblant). U.S. law enforcement officials travel to Canada all the time and they do so with their pieces. When the FBI needs to speak to a witness, they engage the local police in Canada with jurisdiction and are accompanied by them (usually witness is retrieved by local cop, brought in to local station and interviewed there by the FBI). And FBI agents on duty travel with their pieces. I have a friend who is FBI that wears his even off duty.
 
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Let's face it, gentlemen. For a man of Spitzer's position, anything in the world can be arranged. If he wanted to be having 15 women in lederhosen at high noon in a Bavarian beer garden, someone would have figured out how to get it done undetected....at least for a little while.
 

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IRS started the investigation!

This is quite remarkable the following story as to how they tripped over Spitzer based on a suspicion of bribery or corruption in an investigation started last year! This is really getting interesting. I wonder if anymore interesting dirt will surface? What if they discover that he's been posting deep and dirty reviews on the NY escort review boards???

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11inquire.html?hp
 

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MakeIt said:
This is quite remarkable the following story as to how they tripped over Spitzer based on a suspicion of bribery or corruption in an investigation started last year! This is really getting interesting. I wonder if anymore interesting dirt will surface? What if they discover that he's been posting deep and dirty reviews on the NY escort review boards???

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11inquire.html?hp

Poor Spitzer.....it was his money transfers that got him busted for seeing escorts! :p

I think this story is far from over....other things will surface.

Im surprised we havnt seen pictures of "Kristen" yet.....:D
 

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MakeIt,

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, Spitzer was making large wire transfers to shell companies operated by Emperor VIP's owners, and those transfers triggered automatic bank reporting requirements to the IRS, as there is a presumption that the money is income which someone is attempting to hide from the IRS. The IRS alerted the FBI, which began the investigation assuming Spitzer was being bribed and was funneling the bribe money into slush accounts. They then learned it was a private slush account set up to finance Spitzer's extremely expensive hobbying activities. Reports indicate that he was using Emperor VIP for many years.

Of course Spitzer as former Attorney General in New York should have known about these banking laws, and it is a major fucking mystery how he brain cramped on this one. I can tell you even with an attorney's private trust account (at least in Connecticut), banks are required to automatically report the attorney if the attorney's trust account is overdrawn by ONE FUCKING PENNY to the Statewide Grievance Committee that regulates attorneys. Those banking laws are designed to protect clients from having their money stolen from them by their attorneys. The banking laws that led to Spitzer getting investigated are designed to prevent the evading of reporting income to the IRS.

It's very ironic that they would have suspected Spitzer of taking bribes because his family is massively wealthy and it's almost certain he was using his own amassed wealth to fund his considerable and massively expensive hobbying activities. I have no doubt that Spitzer was spending 6 figures per year on escorts before he became Governor. It probably tapered some when he became Governor and was more regular when he was AG, due to the privacy/sneaking issues already mentioned above.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
Spitzer is guarded by a New York State police detail, and guess what? Reports are now surfacing that he sneaked past them- basically faking out his own personal security detail - in order to get to room 871 to meet Kristen.

I kind of think a deal could have been worked out with the Canadian authorities to let him and his security cops into Canada, with their weapons, if they had a legitimate, lawful reason for being in Canada (such as to pursue his feigned skiing obsession at Mount Tremblant). U.S. law enforcement officials travel to Canada all the time and they do so with their pieces. When the FBI needs to speak to a witness, they engage the local police in Canada with jurisdiction and are accompanied by them (usually witness is retrieved by local cop, brought in to local station and interviewed there by the FBI). And FBI agents on duty travel with their pieces. I have a friend who is FBI that wears his even off duty.

US cops can do this, but it requires planning, coordination and some kind of approval from somebody. All of that equals more exposure which is what Spitzer thought he was avoiding by doing what he did.

Why don't you ask your friend how easy it is to do something like this? Then ask him if he's more or less likely to be on alert when he's on a detail in a foreign country in an area he doesn't go to very often? Now you know what kind of thinking would be going on with Spitzer's security detail. Just by doing their jobs, their ears would be pricked up a little more than the usual trip to a DC hotel, where Spitzer telling them to knock off an hour or two early would probably not be a cause for concern.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
MakeIt,

...I can tell you even with an attorney's private trust account (at least in Connecticut), banks are required to automatically report the attorney if the attorney's trust account is overdrawn by ONE FUCKING PENNY to the Statewide Grievance Committee that regulates attorneys. Those banking laws are designed to protect clients from having their money stolen from them by their attorneys....

Interesting. How does the bank know it's an attorney client trust account? Unless the firm labels it as such, shouldn't it appear as just another savings account, or does the CT attorney committee require that attorneys let the banks know what the purpose of the account is?
 

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IOLTA accounts

They are registered as IOLTA (Interest on Lawyer Trust Accounts). The bank knows it as such and it is registered as such and attorneys have to also register the accounts with the Statewide Grievance Committee. These laws (the ones regarding automatic overdraft reporting) are of somewhat recent vintage due to too many real estate attorneys stealing money from their trust accounts and their clients to pay personal debts. The problem became acute in the last few years due to a few bad apples who rang up big gambling debts, had financial problems, and/or addictions to drugs and alcohol etc.

You have to have a trust account designated as such or you don't get to practice law.

We also have a Client's Security Fund that all attorneys are required to pay into every year due to the bad apples.
 
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CaptRenault said:
I imagine his lawyers are negotiating with the government now to work some kind of deal where he would resign in return for a slap on the wrist.

CR,

Spitzer retained a high powered Manhattan law firm and that is exactly why he has not announced his resignation yet - his attorneys have likely told him to hang on to the governship as a bargaining chip with federal prosecutors. The problem he has is the New York Republican leadership has given him a 48 hour deadline to resign or face articles of impeachment. So he needs to broker a deal quickly.:eek:
 

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It's interesting to see the responses of people on the street, who in large part seem to not be that offended by the fact that he liked a little paid pussy on the side, but rather that he should have known better. Shows a tolerance for the oldest profession.
 
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