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NY Gov Spitzer linked to Prostitution Ring

Question: Should Spitzer be Prosecuted?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 28.8%
  • No

    Votes: 37 71.2%

  • Total voters
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EagerBeaver

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banger said:
Im surprised we havnt seen pictures of "Kristen" yet.....:D

Banger,

Kristen is being kept muzzled until all the criminal cases are over. Once they are (she will likely be a witness in them), her career as a hooker will be over because she is going to be offered HUGE MONEY by the tabloid media, by the New York media, by Playboy to pose nude, by every publishing house to tell her story of how she had sex with Spitzer and dealt with his BBFS requests. She is about to be a rich young lady, but she will have to wait for the smoke to clear on the criminal case(s).

I SO want to be her fucking literary agent! I would give up my job if I could sign her up. She is worth $$$$$$ now. To think she was a newbie at EC with no pics and now she is the world's MOST FAMOUS PROSTITUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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General Gonad said:
Move over client #9 because client #69 is back!!!:p

GG

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Only in the desert.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
MakeIt,

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, Spitzer was making large wire transfers to shell companies operated by Emperor VIP's owners, and those transfers triggered automatic bank reporting requirements to the IRS, as there is a presumption that the money is income which someone is attempting to hide from the IRS. The IRS alerted the FBI, which began the investigation assuming Spitzer was being bribed and was funneling the bribe money into slush accounts. They then learned it was a private slush account set up to finance Spitzer's extremely expensive hobbying activities. Reports indicate that he was using Emperor VIP for many years.

Of course Spitzer as former Attorney General in New York should have known about these banking laws, and it is a major fucking mystery how he brain cramped on this one. I can tell you even with an attorney's private trust account (at least in Connecticut), banks are required to automatically report the attorney if the attorney's trust account is overdrawn by ONE FUCKING PENNY to the Statewide Grievance Committee that regulates attorneys. Those banking laws are designed to protect clients from having their money stolen from them by their attorneys. The banking laws that led to Spitzer getting investigated are designed to prevent the evading of reporting income to the IRS.

It's very ironic that they would have suspected Spitzer of taking bribes because his family is massively wealthy and it's almost certain he was using his own amassed wealth to fund his considerable and massively expensive hobbying activities. I have no doubt that Spitzer was spending 6 figures per year on escorts before he became Governor. It probably tapered some when he became Governor and was more regular when he was AG, due to the privacy/sneaking issues already mentioned above.

Well I have to say this guy seems to be just plain dumb. As you pointed out, as attorney general, he should have known something about banking laws. Wouldn't he know that his bank account would have been monitored because he is the Governor? It seems to me that when are elected to such a position that your finances are highly scrutinized in large part to ensure that no corruption can take place easily. I guess he spent too much time using the small head instead of the big head::))
 

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General Gonad said:
Move over client #9 because client #69 is back!!!:p

GG

P.S. Does it rain in hell?:D


Hey GG

Did you have to hack into Fred's account to get back in here?

Makeit

PS welcome back
 

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Question to the yanks on board:

Don't you feel embarrased of being Americans?

I visited Montreal, Costa Rica, and Rio exclusively and let me tell u something: All of these places are filled with Americans. Every year, you have to fly thousands of miles abroad in order to fullfill your normal 'manly' fantasies.

Just legalize prostitution already in your country and get over with these childish acts.

ps: people in the US are more offended by the dude seing a prostitute than the whole money laundering thing.
 

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CaptRenault said:
If you'd like to read all the legalese from the criminal complaint (pretty boring, but a few juicy parts) against the Emperor's Club escort agency, there's a copy here:

Criminal Complaint text

Intersting snippets:

the defendants, spoke
over the telephone about offering the Emperors Club's clients the
opportunity to exercise a "buyout clause," which would permit
clients to purchase direct access to one of the Emperors Club's
prostitutes without having to contact the agency;

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the defendant, received an e-mail
from a potential prostitute declining to work for the Emperors
Club in part because her friend had to have sex with a client
"twice in an hour";

prostitution date with a client to cost $25,000 or more.


the three-day rates for two of the Emperors Club
prostitutes were $50,000 and $35,000

he defendants, received more than
$1 million in proceeds from the Emperors Club prostitution

7. As demonstrated below, the evidence obtained
during this investigation includes, among other things,
statements of a confidential source who worked with the Emperors
Club; statements of an undercover officer; more than 5,000
telephone calls and text messages intercepted pursuant to court-
authorized wiretaps; more than 6,000 e-mails recovered pursuant
to court-authorized search warrants; bank records; travel and
hotel records; and physical surveillance.
business

{I only got a little way through it....}
 

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Dershowitz on Spitzer Busted w/ Prostitutes: "Big Deal!"

Dershowitz is absolutely right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRTxmqvW6mY

So what???? What is the big deal? On CNN, Dershowitz said this is a misdemeanor and everybody is making a federal case of it. Spitzer is an idiot for getting caught but so what??? Surely there are more newsworthy headlines?:rolleyes:

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Don't you feel embarrased of being Americans?

Not really, no. On balance, yeah, maybe the prostitution law seem a little silly, but I'll take the economic opportunities and lifestyle here over any of the places you mentioned, thank you. And as far as Derschowitz being right, as a lawyer he ought to know better. It isn't about the prostitution per se, but the fact that you have the highest ranking official in the state participating in breaking a law he's taken an oath to uphold. No sympathy.
 

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NY times reports Spitzer to resign today....
 

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Dershowitz: Spitzer should not resign

Watch this video:

http://polijamblog.polijam.com/?p=863

Dershowitz also claims that the federal government targeted Spitzer and it was not an accidental discovery from the IRS. I happen to agree that this case smells and Spitzer was targeted.

Spitzer will probably step down but do you think that he was targeted for political reasons? Should he resign or fight to keep his job?

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General Gonad said:
Dershowitz is absolutely right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRTxmqvW6mY

So what???? What is the big deal? On CNN, Dershowitz said this is a misdemeanor and everybody is making a federal case of it. Spitzer is an idiot for getting caught but so what??? Surely there are more newsworthy headlines?:rolleyes:

GG
If it is not such a big deal I’m sure you will have no problem telling your wife and family about your secret life with prostitutes.
 

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beautydigger said:
If it is not such a big deal I’m sure you will have no problem telling your wife and family about your secret life with prostitutes.

What a dumb comment on your part. What else is new?:rolleyes: Spitzer's private life has no bearing on his competency as a governor of NY. Americans are totally hypocritical. They expect perfection from their public officials when the fact remains that most men are doing the exact same thing as Spitzer or even worse. He got laid by a hooker...big deal...next...:rolleyes:

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General Gonad said:
What a dumb comment on your part. What else is new?:rolleyes: Spitzer's private life has no bearing on his competency as a governor of NY. Americans are totally hypocritical. They expect perfection from their public officials when the fact remains that most men are doing the exact same thing as Spitzer or even worse. He got laid by a hooker...big deal...next...:rolleyes:

GG
I guess that means you won’t be telling them. I wouldn't expect a genius like you to know anything about honor or dignity.
 

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I guess that means you won’t be telling them. I wouldn't expect a genius like you to know anything about honor or dignity.

Oh wise one, why don't you tell me about honor and dignity?:rolleyes: Better yet, why don't you email CNN and tell them how honorable of them to keep bombarding us with this story.:rolleyes:

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General Gonad said:
Oh wise one, why don't you tell me about honor and dignity?:rolleyes: Better yet, why don't you email CNN and tell them how honorable of them to keep bombarding us with this story.:rolleyes:

GG
If you were as smart as you think you are you would be able to figure out that someone who has prosecuted other prostitution rings and then is guilty of the same crime and assumes “What’s wrong with that” has to be on the same intellectual level as you.
 

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Doc Holliday said:
I agree with this statement. I also agree with Alan Dershowitz' comments: "In Europe, this would be such a non-story that it would wind up in the newspapers' back pages."

It's Spitzer's hypocrisy that is being targeted here. There is so much hypocrisy in the US when it comes to sex. Whether it'd be in pornography or prostitution, the common denominator has always been the presence of hypocrisy shown by officials of the morality police, which includes politicans, of course.
Another john protecting a scumbag that prosecutes the industry that this board is all about. Brilliant!!!!
 

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Doc Holliday said:
This board is about MONTREAL. The laws & the way Prostitution is viewed in Canada is completely different from the States.

I also have no problem with the law going after agencies that are being run by organized crime where its tax-free profits are being used to commit crimes.
This board is about prostitution in Montreal. Are you sure your not working with the LE to bust a ring or two? Doc, you were at your best when you used to write those reviews that took place in Dodge City.
 

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Are you sure your not working with the LE to bust a ring or two? Doc, you were at your best when you used to write those reviews that took place in Dodge City.

Kiss my ass, will ya? :cool:
 

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Spitzer Quits.....Did he cut a deal to avoid jail???

Spitzer Quits as New York Governor; Paterson Succeeds (Update1)

By Henry Goldman and Karen Freifeld

March 12 (Bloomberg) -- Eliot Spitzer resigned as governor of New York, brought down by allegations that he patronized a ring of high-priced prostitutes.

Spitzer, who apologized to all New Yorkers, said his resignation is effective March 17. Lieutenant Governor David Paterson, 53, will become the state's 55th governor, serving out the rest of Spitzer's term, which expires Dec. 31, 2010. Paterson, a Democrat like Spitzer, will be the state's first black governor.

``I didn't live up to what was expected of me,'' Spitzer, 48, said today at a Manhattan press conference. ``I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people's work.''

The resignation of Spitzer, who as New York attorney general gained national prominence through high-profile cases against Wall Street securities firms, brings a sudden and humiliating close to a career spent uncovering and prosecuting the failings of others.

``Power sometimes has a corrosive effect on our strength and our mind,'' said former three-term Republican U.S. Senator for New York Alfonse D'Amato. ``You begin to lose perspective.''

Spitzer had been governor for less than 15 months. He was elected in 2006 with 69 percent of the vote, the highest plurality ever in a New York gubernatorial race, on a promise to shake up the state's politics.

The beginning of the end for Spitzer's governorship came with a March 10 article on the New York Times Web site reporting that he was caught on a federal wiretap planning to meet a prostitute in Washington after arranging for her to travel from New York.

`Client 9'

The Times, citing a person familiar with the federal investigation, said Spitzer was the individual identified in a federal affidavit as ``Client 9,'' who federal prosecutors said paid $4,300 to have sex with a prostitute named ``Kristen'' in the Mayflower Hotel.

``I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard that I expect of myself,'' Spitzer, a former prosecutor, said at a March 10 Manhattan press briefing. The governor, with his wife Silda at his side, didn't take questions or discuss the allegations specifically at that press conference or at today's announcement.

``This is an extraordinary story -- the supernova of American politics collapsing in 14 months,'' said political consultant Hank Sheinkopf, strategy director in Spitzer's upset election as state attorney general in 1998.

Spitzer, in a dark suit and blue tie, smiled at reporters as he left his Upper East Side apartment in Manhattan this morning with his wife and aides, declining to answer any questions. They headed downtown in a three-car caravan to his midtown offices, where he announced his resignation.

Prostitution Case

Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for Manhattan U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia, whose office is prosecuting the prostitution case, declined to comment yesterday when asked if Spitzer was under investigation. He hasn't been charged with a crime.

Federal prosecutors on March 6 announced the arrest of four individuals connected to an international prostitution and money- laundering ring called the ``Emperors Club.''

Spitzer's popularity plunged in recent months to among the lowest for a governor in state history. In what New York tabloids dubbed the ``Troopergate'' scandal, his aides were accused last year of directing state police to compile records on Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno's use of state-owned aircraft.

Spitzer denied knowledge of the efforts and was never formally accused of wrongdoing. Bruno is now next in line to become governor.

`Excellent Relationship'

He told reporters in Albany this morning he has ``an excellent relationship'' with Paterson.

``We've talked a number of times in the last couple of days and I indicated to him that we will partner going forward,'' Bruno said.

In November, Spitzer abandoned a plan to make drivers licenses available to illegal immigrants after the proposal drew criticism from lawmakers and political commentators.

``When he came in with that landslide election there was certainly talk that he would be our first Jewish president,'' said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute in Hamden, Connecticut, which tracked Spitzer's slide. ``He had a golden future.''

Paterson, the former state lawmaker, may be more successful than Spitzer in negotiating a budget with the legislature, Sheinkopf said. The April 1 deadline for approving a new state budget still finds the state Senate, Assembly and executive branch divided. The Spitzer administration forecast a $4.4 billion deficit last month, with a poor economic outlook reducing the prospects for state revenue.

`More Collegial Environment'

``He's able to talk to people. You'll see a much more collegial environment should he become the governor,'' Sheinkopf said of Paterson in a March 11 interview with Bloomberg radio. ``We know he's a man who gets along with both sides of the aisle. There will be less screaming and yelling, more concentrated effort.''

Paterson, first elected to the state Senate in 1985, is the son of Basil Paterson, a pioneering African-American political leader in New York City who helped forge a Harlem-based political organization that elected former Mayor David Dinkins, former Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton and U.S. Representative Charles Rangel.

``He's highly intelligent, laid back and a humble guy,'' former New York City Mayor Ed Koch said of David Paterson, whose father served as a deputy mayor in Koch's administration.
 
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CBC Interview

Just saw an interview from Montreal with an escort Natalie McLennan with Nancy Wilson on CBC television. She did at one time work as an escort in New York city but has returned to Montreal. it was her opinion that his own arrogance brought him down. He apparently thought he was bulletproof and could leave a paper trail of his transactions. She made some very revealing comments about escorting in general, concerning discretion, types of clientele, and her motives for escorting (fantasy and adventure). They just might do a repeat broadcast for points west for all you guys with satellite. Definitely worth a watch.

Just as an aside, she had all the attributes of a HDH: beauty, intelligence and class. Wonder if she is working in Montreal? She definitely got my attention.:)
 
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