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CaptRenault

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Fradi, thanks for your sharing your knowledge of what communism is really like, which is apparently based on your experience growing up in a communist country. It's a valuable perspective. Thanks.
 
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I was a kid when I left, we escaped during the revolution but my parents lived through it and I was back many times during the communist era in the 70‘s and had first hand accounts from both my relatives and my wife‘s relatives.
They treated me way different on these visits holding a Canadian passport, but even I had to register at the police station on arrival and any time I left a city for more than 24 hours, so they always knew exactly where I was and what I was doing.

Was lucky enough to travel all over the world and see first hand how people live in many countries including Russia and China and still talk to some and have former work colleagues from Russia visit when they are here on company business.

No matter who wins Trump or Biden, you will still be better off than most countries in the world.
It is unfortunately sad that this is the best that America can come up with.
 
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This probably assisted in Trump winning in Nov.
This will play right into Trumps hands.
Wonder how many trillions China, India and Russia will donate to fighting climate change seeing as they are the ones spewing the most garbage into the atmosphere or if they will just keep laughing at the US as they did when Obama was in power.
 
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Maybe! Lol, what if Joe fails some cognition test or something and has to step down?
 

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Maybe! Lol, what if Joe fails some cognition test or something and has to step down?
Come on, who needs any cognition tests? Everyone knows that the Y-chromosome bearers are good for nothing, especially those of the white variety. Joe certainly does, kudos to him!
 

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You think there wasn’t an ultra rich group controlling the masses during communism you are sadly mistaken.
You seem to forget the Ceausescus and their golden palaces.
All the vacation mansions all over the Eastern block. Some of these are now being used by companies as guest facilities for visiting businessmen.
They didn’t flaunt it like China does and there was no internet or smart phones so they were more able to keep it under raps.
Even communism evolves with the times.
What was the same is that you were still being watched all the time you were never free to say what you wanted. and the government controlled your every move.
What is still the same is that there are people in prison for voicing their opinion against the government.
The people in China are owned by the government with companies employing hundreds of thousands of people, they live in government owned buildings shop in government owned stores and they work in government owned companies none of this has changed I have visited many of these companies and trained their employees. They are smiling nodding prisoners of these companies.
Don't let the skyscrapers of Beijing and Shanghai cloud your judgement.



Russia is not called communist anymore, you think much has changed for the everyday person under Putin.
There are many millionaires in Moscow also but if you see the way people live in rural areas and their working conditions in some of these factories it would make you cry.
Some probably wish they had communism back over Putin.
I have never watched Fox News in my life.


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Your description of Ceaușescu’s golden palaces, Eastern Bloc’s vacation mansions, Putin’s oligarchs prove my point that Communists all end up as Fascists. Communism’s non-negotiable, essential characteristic is a classless society where everything is communally owned.

But power corrupts and as history has shown; Comrades Lenin, Mao & others that followed all became dictators alongside a new, more brutal elite. So Communism’s inevitable evolution is towards Fascism. They can call it whatever they want ... communist, socialist republic but at its core, it’s Fascist.

Nope, most assets in China have transitioned to private ownership since 1978. Not because China’s leaders r benevolent but because they needed to overcome the inefficiencies associated with excessive state ownership. China’s system is designed to harness the dynamism of capitalism but yet maintaining control of the essential parts of the country.

That’s the genius of China’s Fascist Capitalist system. It manages to encourage people & companies to freely & fiercely compete with each other for money, market share, prestige while at the same time, effectively restricting political activities.

And China’s workers are not smiling nodding prisoners of their companies. Again, this is by design. Prisoners, serfs, indentured labor tend to be uncreative, unmotivated, suited only towards low-value repetitive tasks. But China needed high growth from innovation because there was only so much that they could steal from the developed economies.

If stealing technologies could create a high tech innovative society, Russia would be on par with the US by now. So no way that unthinking drone workers managed to create companies like Alibaba, Tencent, Nio, ByteDance, Meituan, Xiaohongshu, etc. Even the geniuses at Facebook are still clueless about how China’s Tik Tok managed to grab so much US market share. Apart from sensitive areas like politics & religion, the average middle class Chinese has freedoms & opportunities comparable to most advanced economies.

Which is why China is so dangerous. It’s not some half-failed state like Russia sustained by petrodollars & arm sales or a repressive regime like North Korea w/ slave workers. China is a super productive, innovative, high tech society w/ a sizeable, thriving middle class ruled by a one-party government whose legitimacy is increasingly reliant on ultra-nationalism. As China grows ever stronger, that ultra-nationalism movement will demand that China asserts itself and that may not be compatible with the current world order.
 
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Really the average Chinese has freedom.
Well except for religion, free speech, voting freedom, and leaving the country without permission ,other than that they are free.
I wonder why they were so pissed in Hong Kong.
That is why every female Chinese Translator I worked with was falling all over this guy with us who happened to be single ( someone who would not get a second look here ) they all wanted to immigrate to Canada.
I did not see too many happy people in China. What I saw at one company was 150,000 people all getting onto their bicycles heading home at lunch time to their government owned apartments right outside the company gates for lunch. They all were dressed the same in their blue uniforms all looked the same smiled and nodded the same. Like sheep having escaped the slaughter house for one more day.
Perhaps if you think there are such great opportunities there you should be thinking of moving there permanently, you already have a working knowledge of Mandarin. Go for it.
There were thousands of so called happy people in the streets for May Day celebrations also all over during communism, it. was either that or a stint in prison. Sure got you waving that red flag.
China will implode just like the rest of the communist countries did it is only a matter of time.
China doesn’t develope they steal technology and unfortunately they were and are willingly taught by many high tech western companies willing to provide what ever they asked for. It was all for the same reason $$$$. The company I worked for was one of them.
China doesn’t invent shit well except maybe the coronavirus which they were more than willing to share with the rest of the world.
 

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Yesterday I was chatting with one of my brothers, and we were wondering what we are currently concerned with.

And both were what's going on in the US.
He was the management of the crisis and the elections, and I the elections.

We told ourselves that if Trump lost the election, he probably wouldn't calmly accept the results.

We're 80 days away from the election and he's 10 points down, and he's starting to find defeats.

We are afraid of Trump's armed base.
 
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We told ourselves that if Trump lost the election, he probably wouldn't calmly accept the results.

We're 80 days away from the election and he's 10 points down, and he's starting to find defeats.

We are afraid of Trump's armed base.

If Trump loses the election he will leave office. The argument as I know it is that if we (me and my fellow Americans) decide to have a full blown mail in election that all of the votes wouldn’t be counted in time to know the winner thus having CNN and the other fake news media come up with bs stories about Trump not leaving office if he loses. Not sure how the mail works in Canada, in the USA it’s the most poorly run branch of the federal government. They would absolutely screw up the mail in votes and screw up a speedy legit election. Wanting to do this during a pandemic is something that makes sense. But, the politicians do what they do best and politicize it. Instead of having a mass mailing to the American people from the USPS, people who feel their safety is compromised should do what many Americans already do and that’s to request their ballot mailed to them and then they would fill it out and send it back. Difference between the two is that the people requesting their ballot mailed to them will be verified unlike the mass mailing to everyone thus reducing fraud.

You shouldn’t be worried about Trumps armed base, they aren’t permitted to bring firearms into to Canada so you will be safe. Unlike the looters and criminals in American cities that are free to destroy anything they want without anyone putting their foot down to put an end to it. These people are not Trumps base.
 

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Unlike the looters and criminals in American cities that are free to destroy anything they want without anyone putting their foot down to put an end to it. These people are not Trumps base.
They are not Trump's base, no question, but they are playing right into his hands nonetheless. If Trump ends up getting reelected, they will be a major reason why.
 

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They should have walk-in voting like right after last debate? Why can’t you go in to a staffed voting booth weeks earlier than actual Election Day so people can avoid long lines
 

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There wasn't a pandemic during the last election and people with health issues are more at risk of dying from Covid 19 so it's a safer option for some.
 

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They are not Trump's base, no question, but they are playing right into his hands nonetheless. If Trump ends up getting reelected, they will be a major reason why.

Your correct, it's the democratic governors and mayors letting their cities get completely out of control that are allowing it to play right into Trumps hands.
 

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she would reconvene the House, which is currently in recess, to address the Postal Service crisis.

White House Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows has been having a hard time defending Trump’s opposition to universal mail-in voting.

This is really a lose-lose situation for Trump and he shld move on & focus on the economy where he polls better. But Trump has a reckless tendency to double down, even on bad bets which has been happening to him a lot recently.

 
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Beginning of the virtual Democratic convention today.

Finally, I'm starting to get tired of waiting.
 
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