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EB,
I totally agree with you about the men and women putting their lives on the line for their country and for other countries as well including Canada. They are to be admired just like all the soldiers in the world protecting their populations.
What you fail to mention however is that the US tends to politically stick their nose in every bodies business and invariably starts some of the conflicts that they later on have to protect us from.
They have bungled and started many conflicts in the world and have supported horrendous regimes that later on came back to haunt them and everybody else.
It is way more complicated than just the men and women in the armed forces putting their lives on the line.
 

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With all the Trump rhetoric I almost forgot a big question that Biden refused to answer during the debate about stacking the Supreme Court:

Once again Trump gets the final dig:
"The people understand, Joe. For 47 years you've done nothing."
LMAO!! :p
 

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.....US armed forces put their lives on the line for a whole lot less, and have been doing so on behalf of you and other Canadians as the world's unofficial police force for the better part of the last 75 years? .......

Who should get in line firstly to thank you? The Iranians for supporting the dictatorship of the Shah of Iran for years or the Cubans for the Bay of Pigs invasion or the Vietnamese for uselessly prolonging their civil war for a decade or the Indonesians for the genocide of 1965 or the Cambodians for bombing their country or the Haitians for executing a coup against Aristide or the Nicaraguans for funding the Contras or the Venezuelans and Iranians for your current efforts to starve them into submission?

The "American police force" seems to have been MIA in Rwanda and unaware of the current genocide of the Rohingya in Myanmar.

The Americans intervene to protect the business interests of their multi-nationals, not out of the goodness of their hearts. Yes, they do good sometimes, but at least as often create disasters.
 
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White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tests positive for coronavirus.

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What you fail to mention however is that the US tends to politically stick their nose in every bodies business and invariably starts some of the conflicts that they later on have to protect us from.

There is another way to look at this and since you guys do not appear to be scholars of US history, I will share it with you. While some of the individual interventions were debatable, ill advised and bungled, you really need to look at the big picture over 75 years since World War II and the big picture in the years prior to World War II. After World War I, the US adopted an isolationist policy in world affairs, this because Americans were leery of getting involved in "European wars" after the distasteful involvement in World War I, which fortuitously tipped the balance in favor of the Allies, but at a tremendous cost to the US with no real benefit to it in foreign policy. This prompted the period of isolationism, in which US Presidents left Europe to its own devices, a policy that continued even TWO YEARS AFTER the outbreak of World War II. All of that ended when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor at the end of 1941.

After World War II, a different world order emerged- essentially the USSR/communist influenced world and the USA/ western democracy influenced world. The "Cold War". While there were no more world wars, due to the shift in the balance of power and generally sane politicians, there were smaller wars and conflicts in Korea and Vietnam and elsewhere, in which each side tried to extend their influence or sphere of influence so as to shift the perceived balance of power.

Even after the Cold War ended, the US foreign policy remained actively interventionist rather than isolationist. So it is 75 years of interventionist policy by the US after a long period of isolationist policy.

I would contend that the collective 75 years of interventionist policy has, overall, and despite a few bad decisions, ill advised interventions, bungled operations etc. sent a strong deterrent message to all of the bad elements in the world, and this deterrence has inured to the benefit of the entire civilized western world, Canada included. So I am looking at the big picture and seeing the entire forest from the trees, while you guys focus on a few dead or rotting trees. That is poor forest management. You have to look at the whole forest, not just a few trees.

I would also note that the US period of isolationist policy has been the subject of INTENSE criticism by historians and scholars. Although it is true that the US for the first 2 years of WW II was assisting and supplying the UK and lost many lives and ships doing so, many historians have contended a swifter military entrance and support of the allies would have dissuaded Hitler or possibly prevented the 2 front World War that ended up happening. So there are huge amounts of hypocrisy in some of the criticisms of some of the later American interventions, because we do not really know what wounds would have festered had the interventions not occurred, as was the case in the early years of World War II.
 
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EB,
We may not be scholars of US history but I may just know a little about European history and world history.
My reading habits tend to include news from around the world not just what happens in the US.
Personally I think many people in the US ( your President didn’t know where Ukraine was) are totally ignorant about the world around them.
Perfect indication was, I was travelling in the US which I did every year often due to my job, this particular case was during the Balkan wars just after Tito had died. Thousands were dying and most news papers had maybe a small article on the tenth page about it, front page articles were all of I believe Yankees win the pennant or something to that affect.
The US has not had the best foreign policy many times and has created a crisis that they later had to deal with.

Having said all that I am absolutely glad that they are our next door neighbour because they will never allow any foreign power to take over or attack a neighbour that has shared borders with them.
As a European and someone who’s homeland was sold down the river to the USSR over the Suez Canal at the time I know first hand some of the mistakes the US has made.
 
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In the storm we recognize the real sailors.

We've been in the storm for a long time, and there weren't any real sailors among our neighbors.
 

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There is another way to look at this and since you guys do not appear to be scholars of US history, I will share it with you. While some of the individual interventions were debatable, ill advised and bungled, you really need to look at the big picture over 75 years since World War II and the big picture in the years prior to World War II. After World War I, the US adopted an isolationist policy in world affairs, this because Americans were leery of getting involved in "European wars" after the distasteful involvement in World War I, which fortuitously tipped the balance in favor of the Allies, but at a tremendous cost to the US with no real benefit to it in foreign policy. This prompted the period of isolationism, in which US Presidents left Europe to its own devices, a policy that continued even TWO YEARS AFTER the outbreak of World War II. All of that ended when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor at the end of 1941.

After World War II, a different world order emerged- essentially the USSR/communist influenced world and the USA/ western democracy influenced world. The "Cold War". While there were no more world wars, due to the shift in the balance of power and generally sane politicians, there were smaller wars and conflicts in Korea and Vietnam and elsewhere, in which each side tried to extend their influence or sphere of influence so as to shift the perceived balance of power.

Even after the Cold War ended, the US foreign policy remained actively interventionist rather than isolationist. So it is 75 years of interventionist policy by the US after a long period of isolationist policy.

I would contend that the collective 75 years of interventionist policy has, overall, and despite a few bad decisions, ill advised interventions, bungled operations etc. sent a strong deterrent message to all of the bad elements in the world, and this deterrence has inured to the benefit of the entire civilized western world, Canada included. So I am looking at the big picture and seeing the entire forest from the trees, while you guys focus on a few dead or rotting trees. That is poor forest management. You have to look at the whole forest, not just a few trees.

I would also note that the US period of isolationist policy has been the subject of INTENSE criticism by historians and scholars. Although it is true that the US for the first 2 years of WW II was assisting and supplying the UK and lost many lives and ships doing so, many historians have contended a swifter military entrance and support of the allies would have dissuaded Hitler or possibly prevented the 2 front World War that ended up happening. So there are huge amounts of hypocrisy in some of the criticisms of some of the later American interventions, because we do not really know what wounds would have festered had the interventions not occurred, as was the case in the early years of World War II.
You are dead on EB. US foreign policy is not always perfect but it has acted as a deterrent to belligerent nations in the post war era. Thank God the USA is the most powerful country in the world. Imagine if it were Iran, China or North Korea. How scary a world it would be.
And guess which country protects Canada and allows it to be the peaceful paradise it mostly is.
 

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President Donald Trump will be discharged from the Walter Reed Medical Center this morning and continue his recovery from the coronavirus at the White House.

The news was released via a Tweet where the President stated. “I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M (local time). Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.”

“We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs and knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!”

Finally, he understood absolutely nothing.
Could all Americans have access to drugs and the best doctors to treat them.
He doesn't give a damn about the people who suffer and die.
Ah there are elections.
 
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Understatement of the week. The news that Trump is getting better must be truly devastating for a sizable chunk of the population.

Mostly all the correspondents for CNN. The president is out of the hospital! This is great news!
 

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Not only CNN, all Trump haters must be in mourning. I bet Mr. Biden is not exactly thrilled either.
 

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Mr. Biden, yes, especially if your including Hunter along with all of the Ukraine.
 

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During the last pandemic, the Spanish flu, President Wilson contracted the disease but there was a slightly different level of respect for the leader of the country as a Washington Post columnist wrote: "The country will be anxious regarding President Wilson until he is again at work ... It is a time when an hour lost means the loss of millions of hours to these individuals who are awaiting to begin reconstruction ... the allied world hopes for the sake of its material interests that his illness will be light and brief." Quite different from all the haters today.


 

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Hard to have sympathy for a man with no empathy and still spewing lies and now over 210,000 American people are death and some who could have been breathing today are gone.. Thank You Fake News.
 
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