Owning a Tim Hortons and not serving coffee.
Are you seriously stating that what they are serving you is coffee?
Owning a Tim Hortons and not serving coffee.
I saw nothing in any of the press reports that indicated that Sterling consented to being recorded.
The NBA commissioner said that Sterling admitted that it was his voice....but gave no further information....
"The recordings that have been released were made in September, and Sterling knew he was being recorded, the source told Shelburne. Stiviano has several additional hours of audio and video recordings of Sterling, according to the source."
Do you really think Adam Silver, who was an attorney at one of the best law firms in NYC, would be such a dummy as to ban someone based on illegally obtained evidence?
Once again, as there is thousands of people who rape and kill everyday, some words shouldn't be enought to point you out as the Ennemy Number One of the world... It's important to hierarchize the seriousness of the actions in a society.
...for comments which he may not even believe....it's excessive.....
Man77777 makes some valid points. First of all, was she 'wired' when the audio recording was made? If so, what were the reasons for the conversation to be recorded? Was he led into saying the stuff he said? If so, it sounds like entrapment to me.
Making such a recording of a person without their knowledge or implied consent is illegal. It sounds here like Sterling was dragged in the mud & disciplined by an illegal act itself.
It's also common sense that if any crime was committed the NBA would not be allowed to investigate a police matter. The police at a minimum would be present during any interviews or would ask the NBA to defer their investigation until the police investigation was completed. However since Sterling told the NBA the recording was consented to, the police and LE did not get involved.
As an aside, when he told her not to bring her "black friends" the games, he almost certainly not talking about all blacks, but probably just about her pimp and dope dealer buds...
This thing has "set-up" written all over it....
If Adam Silver thought there was any chance that there was an appeal based on evidence having been illegally obtained he would not have done what he did nor said what he said at the press conference. This guy is a seasoned attorney who worked many years at one of the best firms in NYC and knows what he is doing. If there was any concern he had that the evidence on which the ban was based was illegal he would have said that. He didn't. He also indicated he had spoken to Sterling directly and said he did not hear from him differently regarding what was on the tape. He specifically said Sterling did not share with him any views other than what he admitted saying on the tape. Sterling admitted that it was him and that he consented to it. If that was not the case then Silver defers to and permits the LAPD to investigate the matter, and suspends Sterling INDEFINITELY pending that investigation. That ain't what happened. He handed out a permanent ban.
You guys have to learn to read between the lines a little bit better. This matter would not have been handled as it was if the tape was not authentic and consent was not obtained. Period and end of story.
The league is as guilty as he is for not doing anything sooner about this jerk! And now that Sterling has been exposed publicly as a racist & a bigot, the league suddenly does a 180 and throws the hammer at the guy.
In other words, he didn't want the 'criminal elements' that she associated with at the games. The gangstas types!
Beav, hate to say it even though you are a lawyer, your assumptions are dead wrong.
No they are not, nor have we heard anything to the contrary. The fact that a walkout was threatened does not change the fact that if Silver had knowledge that the recording was, or might have been, illegally obtained, that whole press conference would have been worded and structured totally differently, AND the suspension would have been indefinite, not permanent. You seem not to understand that if there had been an "indefinite" suspension there would have been no reason for the players to walkout, so bringing up the walkout threat is totally irrelevant to the point I made (which you clearly did not get). The players would have walked out only if Sterling was left in charge as of game time Tuesday, and it is crystal clear that was not going to happen regardless of how the tape came to the NBA. So the only issue is what Silver actually said vs. what he could have said were the facts different. A point you clearly did not understand.
You also do not know what Sterling told Silver and his office. You pretend that the NBA never asked Sterling directly about his consent during their investigation. Read between the lines. Do you think Adam Silver is that stupid? The NBA was investigating this matter for a long time before the story ever broke.
Daydreamer,
The lack of a morals clause is not the end of the analysis. If you think that a SI article is the definitive legal treatise on this issue then you are dumber than I thought.
I will say it a 3rd time, there would have been no walkout had there been an indefinite suspension.
You did not understand what I posted and it is not worth responding to your posts on this subject.
This article recites all of the legal authority Silver has under the NBA by laws to suspend Sterling:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbe...rs-owner-donald-sterling-frm-league-for-life/
I chose to focus not on his legal reasons for doing what he did which are all summarized in this article, but to focus instead on the issue of what Silver actually said and why his words indicate that consent is not going to be an issue. Your failure to grasp my point is your failure. I never sought to focus on Silver's legal authority but on what he said and why a permanent ban implied certain facts he found. You then brought up a totally different issue which I had not discussed, saying I was "wrong" on something that was not even a topic I set out to discuss. I have no interest in having a debate with you on the matter of Silver's legal authority.
If Adam Silver thought there was any chance that there was an appeal based on evidence having been illegally obtained he would not have done what he did nor said what he said at the press conference. This guy is a seasoned attorney who worked many years at one of the best firms in NYC and knows what he is doing. If there was any concern he had that the evidence on which the ban was based was illegal he would have said that. He didn't. He also indicated he had spoken to Sterling directly and said he did not hear from him differently regarding what was on the tape. He specifically said Sterling did not share with him any views other than what he admitted saying on the tape. Sterling admitted that it was him and that he consented to it. If that was not the case then Silver defers to and permits the LAPD to investigate the matter, and suspends Sterling INDEFINITELY pending that investigation. That ain't what happened. He handed out a permanent ban.
You guys have to learn to read between the lines a little bit better. This matter would not have been handled as it was if the tape was not authentic and consent was not obtained. Period and end of story.