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My random thought about BC and their drug policies. First the decriminalization of all drugs under 2.5 grams ( people are shooting up in parks ) and now this.

British Columbia will require all of its hospitals to provide a designated space for patients with substance-use disorders to consume illicit drugs, prompted by concerns that an increase in such activity in prohibited hospital areas was putting health care workers at risk.

WTF are they doing.. Personal opinion.
 

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My random thought about BC and their drug policies. First the decriminalization of all drugs under 2.5 grams ( people are shooting up in parks ) and now this.

British Columbia will require all of its hospitals to provide a designated space for patients with substance-use disorders to consume illicit drugs, prompted by concerns that an increase in such activity in prohibited hospital areas was putting health care workers at risk.

WTF are they doing.. Personal opinion.
The drug policies followed by the current federal and provincial administrations are nothing more than enabling people with addiction issues to consume hard drugs. It only adds to their misery.

The only way to deal with an addiction to a drug is through total abstinence. Personal opinion.
 

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The only way to deal with an addiction to a drug is through total abstinence. Personal opinion.

Except going cold turkey can kill people (literally). I suggest you read up on the concept of harm reduction (réduction des méfaits)
 

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Except going cold turkey can kill people (literally). I suggest you read up on the concept of harm reduction (réduction des méfaits)
And I presume if they are supervised in these places and if they want to stop, they can have resources and follow up to do so.
 
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The drug policies followed by the current federal and provincial administrations are nothing more than enabling people with addiction issues to consume hard drugs. It only adds to their misery.

I get the policy but one needs to make some areas a no go, one would be hospitals. Hastings in Vancouver was bad 5 years ago with the odd sighting of street drug use, now it is a free for all. With overdose deaths going up their plan is not working.
 

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Except going cold turkey can kill people (literally). I suggest you read up on the concept of harm reduction (réduction des méfaits)

You would probably have the same chance of being in a car accident or less than dying from going cold turkey. It's like saying someone can win a lottery, possible but not likely. Addicts go cold turkey many times when they run out of money or their source dries up.
 

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You would probably have the same chance of being in a car accident or less than dying from going cold turkey. It's like saying someone can win a lottery, possible but not likely. Addicts go cold turkey many times when they run out of money or their source dries up.

As someone who lost someone due to them going cold turkey, I am not arguing semantics about this. It's a lot more common than winning the lottery and also a lot more serious.

EDIT : I also find it wild that people have an issue with safe drug use sites but these same people have been to a bar at least a dozen times... As if alcohol wasn't the deadliest of poisons
 

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My (not so random) thought today is : people are often confused between a cold and a flu. Trust me, if you have the flu, you will know. Lol
 

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Truly dislike divisive topics of discussions, they have have their own time and place.
 
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As someone who lost someone due to them going cold turkey, I am not arguing semantics about this. It's a lot more common than winning the lottery and also a lot more serious.

Just in case you do hear of someone going through withdrawals ( cold turkey ) the best thing one can do is keep them very hydrated. Dehydration is probably the number one reason withdrawal patients go to the hospital.
 

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My random thought about BC and their drug policies. First the decriminalization of all drugs under 2.5 grams ( people are shooting up in parks ) and now this.

British Columbia will require all of its hospitals to provide a designated space for patients with substance-use disorders to consume illicit drugs, prompted by concerns that an increase in such activity in prohibited hospital areas was putting health care workers at risk.

WTF are they doing.. Personal opinion.
I’m not so sure that they are wrong.
Has making drugs illegal ever stopped addicts from getting them.
Did prohibition stop the use and manufacturing of alcohol.
Was it better when weed was illegal.

I don’t use drugs at all, I prefer a glass of wine or a cognac but I think making weed legal was a step in the right direction, at least now people are not arrested and jailed for something that is no worse than ordinary cigarettes and alcohol and they can get it from a government store where they can be sure it is safe for them to consume.
Perhaps making it legal for a small amount will stop a lot of the criminal activity surrounding drugs and if it can be administered in a safe hospital setting all the better and perhaps introduce a program to help addicts get off it at the same time.
 

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I’m not so sure that they are wrong.
Has making drugs illegal ever stopped addicts from getting them.
Did prohibition stop the use and manufacturing of alcohol.
Was it better when weed was illegal.

I don’t use drugs at all, I prefer a glass of wine or a cognac but I think making weed legal was a step in the right direction, at least now people are not arrested and jailed for something that is no worse than ordinary cigarettes and alcohol and they can get it from a government store where they can be sure it is safe for them to consume.
Perhaps making it legal for a small amount will stop a lot of the criminal activity surrounding drugs and if it can be administered in a safe hospital setting all the better and perhaps introduce a program to help addicts get off it at the same time.
Prohibition also enabled organized crime. Victimless crime laws by the government means feeding the drug cartels. Legalizing drugs is the way to make organized crime groups loose power.
 
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Prohibition also enabled organized crime. Victimless crime laws by the government means feeding the drug cartels. Legalizing drugs is the way to make organized crime groups loose power.
It's not legalized just decriminalization, importing and distributing is still illegal.
 
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I’m not so sure that they are wrong.
Has making drugs illegal ever stopped addicts from getting them.
Did prohibition stop the use and manufacturing of alcohol.
Was it better when weed was illegal.

I don’t use drugs at all, I prefer a glass of wine or a cognac but I think making weed legal was a step in the right direction, at least now people are not arrested and jailed for something that is no worse than ordinary cigarettes and alcohol and they can get it from a government store where they can be sure it is safe for them to consume.
Perhaps making it legal for a small amount will stop a lot of the criminal activity surrounding drugs and if it can be administered in a safe hospital setting all the better and perhaps introduce a program to help addicts get off it at the same time.
Seems that there are less weed consumption as years goes by.
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ation-de-cannabis-des-quebecois-en-baisse.php
 

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It's not legalized just decriminalization, importing and distributing is still illegal.
I meant importing and distributing. Because the government made it illegal it supports drug cartel and organized crime. That should all be legalized. Leave it to the private sector. Drug cartels and organized crime will loose a lot of power, drugs are their main source of income.
 

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I meant importing and distributing. Because the government made it illegal it supports drug cartel and organized crime. That should all be legalized. Leave it to the private sector. Drug cartels and organized crime will loose a lot of power, drugs are their main source of income.
Drig cartels and organized crime are puppets in the larger scheme of things.
 
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