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I am just getting tired of the constant client bashing.
If it is so bad, life is all about choices.
You make your own luck in life.
I think giving her this opportunity to share what's not so good about clients isn't that bad.
If it can make some clients better gents, I think it's ok.
 
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I think this is a big part of it. another part of it I think is that some clients think of a session with an SP as some kind of conquest over another person, a feather in their cap or a scalp collected, and they get an ego boost out of certain details (attendance at some prestigious university, coming from a privileged background, career in biotech, etc) that inflate the value/allure of the SP (their prize or trophy) in their mind, so they dig around/stalk for it. other clients, particularly newer ones to the industry, may want to learn more about who it is they just had sex with because maybe it feels unnatural to them to have sex with a total stranger (doesn't make stalking any more okay). and then there are the particularly repugnant stalkers who try to dig up stuff with which to blackmail SPs into receiving free sex.
This is exactly it. I know for a fact I've had clients share what they believed was "real info" about me and I've received many suspicious friend requests on my personal social media. There's nothing that's going to convince me to offer BBFs or have free sex with clients.

And I don't think it's client bashing to share things that are upsetting about our lives as SP's, not all clients do mean things like this, most of my clients are really respectful and the ones who aren't usually are the ones who don't book or who saw me when I had much lower rates and was clearly not in a good place mentally.

I think if you want to know things about your SP in order to connect with them more, ask them questions about things that aren't compromising.. Like what their interests are, what movies and music they like, what their hobbies are, etc etc. Asking for real name, dates of birth and details about other SP's lives isn's appropriate..
 

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I feel this.. I don't want to be ungrateful or mean, but lately I've had really really long conversations and email exchanges with people who ended up not booking or cancelling. :(
Sorry for you dear. Hope you are not talking about me...
 

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Sorry for you dear. Hope you are not talking about me...
Why would I be talking about you? You didn't say you were planning on booking me
 

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I think giving her this opportunity to share what's not so good about clients isn't that bad.
If it can make some clients better gents, I think it's ok.
I am all for sharing things that can help men be better clients.
This thread however has turned into bashing men and unfortunately and for the life of me I don’t know why none of you are willing to stand up for yourselves as clients and men and just keep bobbing your heads in agreement no matter what they say.

It is not a thing of us against them as the ladies seem to do if you happen to disagree with them it is about being respectful and appreciating what we can do for each other.

They provide the intimacy and warmth that we miss in our lives and in turn we provide the funds that help pay for the finer things in life that they want.
There is no reason why we can’t appreciate each other and not constantly paint a negative picture of the other.

I love seeing the women that I have gotten to know and would never endanger them in anyway or be disrespectful to them.
 

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Asking for real name, dates of birth
I got a favorite who I've seen for let say 7 years before she told me her real name.
I think after several repeats over months, it's ok
I have all my favorites birthday date and they have mine.
 
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I am all for sharing things that can help men be better clients.
This thread however has turned into bashing men and unfortunately and for the life of me I don’t know why none of you are willing to stand up for yourselves as clients and men and just keep bobbing your heads in agreement no matter what they say.

It is not a thing of us against them as the ladies seem to do if you happen to disagree with them it is about being respectful and appreciating what we can do for each other.

They provide the intimacy and warmth that we miss in our lives and in turn we provide the funds that help pay for the finer things in life that they want.
There is no reason why we can’t appreciate each other and not constantly paint a negative picture of the other.

I love seeing the women that I have gotten to know and would never endanger them in anyway or be disrespectful to them.
I'm a little confused about your comment personally because I don't see any client bashing here, I just see people sharing negative experience with CERTAIN clients. Also, not all clients are men.

There are a million of people on earth, some are really nice and kind, some do things that are bad.. it's just reality. This industry is really tough, and I would like to invite you to put yourself at our place for once. :)

I don't think clients should be against providers or vice versa personally, but unfortunately, certain people do things that we know YOU personally wouldn't do. It's not because someone is complaining about another person's behaviour that it applies to you as well.. I think people are agreeing because they know these things really do happen.. It's naive to believe that providers don't experience disrespectful behavior and violence. That doesn't mean providers hate their clients or men in general.

When I see people complain about bad behaviour from certain providers I don't take it personally either, because I know I'm not one of the people who do this type of thing.. I don't agree with a lot of things other providers do, either.
 
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I got a favorite who I've seen for let say 7 years before she told me her real name.
I think after several repeats over months, it's ok
I have all my favorites birthday date and they have mine.
I don't think it's necessarily bad for clients to know personal info about their regular SP's necessarily as long as the person provided this information themselves and there is trust between the 2 individuals :)
I just don't personally appreciate a new client asking for my real name or finding out that someone researched for personal info about me online or that someone went out of their way to find my personal social media and gave it away to somebody else..
 

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I'm a little confused about your comment personally because I don't see any client bashing here, I just see people sharing negative experience with CERTAIN clients. Also, not all clients are men.

There are a million of people on earth, some are really nice and kind, some do things that are bad.. it's just reality. This industry is really tough, and I would like to invite you to put yourself at our place for once. :)

I don't think clients should be against providers or vice versa personally, but unfortunately, certain people do things that we know YOU personally wouldn't do. It's not because someone is complaining about another person's behaviour that it applies to you as well.. I think people are agreeing because they know these things really do happen.. It's naive to believe that providers don't experience disrespectful behavior and violence. That doesn't mean providers hate their clients or men in general.

When I see people complain about bad behaviour from certain providers I don't take it personally either, because I know I'm not one of the people who do this type of thing.. I don't agree with a lot of things other providers do, either.
First let me say that it is nice to have a lady like you posting on this board.
You are always respectful in all your posts and you choose your words with tact and kindness.

I have been around for a very long time ( basically I am not young lol) and seen many things in life and understand that the life you ladies have chosen is a very tough one.
It is not right for anyone to disrespect women in anyway and especially not by distributing personal information about them that can endanger them.

This is also true for SP endangering, blackmailing, and threatening clients.

As far as photographs and videos again anything that is not authorized should be reported to the police.
Having said that there are many intimate and explicit photographs and videos that are distributed by the ladies themselves in order to make money again their choice if they are comfortable with that, but then don’t complain about it.

Unfortunately as you said it is a very tough profession you have chosen and these things will happen, you put yourselves in the public eye in todays world it is naive not to know it will happen.

It is really all about how you choose to convey this information, it can be done as you have chosen to do or in a way that can be received as being a constant negative against all men and clients.

You are right it is not clients against companions.
I have been lucky in my life I have received nothing but love and kindness from the women in my life and that is why I chose to see so few because I appreciate the way they treat me and hopefully they feel the same.
 
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I got a favorite who I've seen for let say 7 years before she told me her real name.
I think after several repeats over months, it's ok
I have all my favorites birthday date and they have mine.
I know the birthday of the ladies I see regularly because they told me.
It allows me to give them a nice gift and to make an extra special effort and celebrate their birthday with them.
I don’t know who enjoys their birthday more me or them.
My ATF also knows mine we trust each other and don’t share anything private with anybody.
 
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First let me say that it is nice to have a lady like you posting on this board.
You are always respectful in all your posts and you choose your words with tact and kindness.

I have been around for a very long time ( basically I am not young lol) and seen many things in life and understand that the life you ladies have chosen is a very tough one.
It is not right for anyone to disrespect women in anyway and especially not by distributing personal information about them that can endanger them.

This is also true for SP endangering, blackmailing, and threatening clients.

As far as photographs and videos again anything that is not authorized should be reported to the police.
Having said that there are many intimate and explicit photographs and videos that are distributed by the ladies themselves in order to make money again their choice if they are comfortable with that, but then don’t complain about it.

Unfortunately as you said it is a very tough profession you have chosen and these things will happen, you put yourselves in the public eye in todays world it is naive not to know it will happen.

It is really all about how you choose to convey this information, it can be done as you have chosen to do or in a way that can be received as being a constant negative against all men and clients.

You are right it is not clients against companions.
I have been lucky in my life I have received nothing but love and kindness from the women in my life and that is why I chose to see so few because I appreciate the way they treat me and hopefully they feel the same.
Thank you for your respectful response. I just want to make a few things clear :)

About photos.. when you are selling content to somebody the person has paid for it, you're not allowing the person to give it to others. It's disrespectful. We were also mentioning personal social media being passed around, people filming without consent etc. These things can be really scary and dangerous.

I also disagree that because we chose this profession we deserve or should expect for something negative to happen to us. We all have different reasons why we decided to become sp's and nobody deserves to be punished for it..

Obviously SPs should not be blackmailing or threatening clients because they are putting everyone at risk when they do that, and we don't deserve to pay for what others have done..

SPs get threatened and blackmailed too. We just don't talk about our bad experiences constantly because it's a turn off to clients when we do, and some take it personally (example : somebody sharing a bad experience in this case becomes "man bashing"..)

If you have respectful behavior toward the women in your life I am absolutely certain that they have positive feelings about you. Certain clients doing bad things have nothing to do with you as a client, as a man and as a person
 
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Alright enough. No one actually cares that much can we just go back to random thoughts. None of that is random and Fradi is another “it didn’t happen to me so it doesn’t exist” kind of person.

Case closed.

What’s good today?
 

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I also disagree that because we chose this profession we deserve or should expect for something negative to happen to us. We all have different reasons why we decided to become sp's and nobody deserves to be punished for
Of course you don’t deserve anything negative or unkind to happen to you or to any woman for that matter.

However it is you and the other ladies that are reliving your negative experiences with us so it is very unrealistic and naive to think that you will not have these negative experiences in your profession.

You are after all dealing in many cases with people that cheat, lie, and have a hard time to have normal relations with women.
This is the reality that you are living and the profession you have. chosen.

I am glad that you also are aware that there are many amongst us who actually do care about the ladies they see, can form genuine friendships with them and look forward to seeing each other regularly.
 

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I don’t know where you get off insinuating that I in anyway condone anything private or not approved to be distributed.
By all means they should seek legal action and have anybody in violation prosecuted.
Abrasive you have got to be kidding?

My point is simply reality of life.
You put explicit content on the internet it is not protected or safe if you cannot understand that then you are living in your own delusional world.
Same thing goes if you think SP will not have negative experiences just look at the many they have described in this thread alone.

Stop trying to be a white knight you won’t get anything free for it.
 
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Alright enough. No one actually cares that much can we just go back to random thoughts. None of that is random and Fradi is another “it didn’t happen to me so it doesn’t exist” kind of person.

Case closed.

What’s good today?
I am glad you get to decide what kind of person I am and when something is closed.
I will let you describe yourself as I have never met you or know you.

My random thought never put words in someone’s mouth or try to dismiss them.we are all entitled to our opinion

Other random thought .
Congratulations to all the Canadian Olympians the ones that won medals and the ones that didn’t.
You are all loved and we appreciate your dedication and hard work.
You are all amazing and represent what Canada is all about.
Friendship, kindness and respect.
 
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