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Hurting Pootiepoot is not the aim.
The seizures put pressure on the oligarchs.
They are the ones Pootie fears most, and the only ones he would listen to.
I really hope you are right because right now my impression is that his ear canals are seriously packed with black powder.... and he only listen to the drums of war and power.
 
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Is he really delusional? He still has a major strong leverage on europe, i.e. as we speak, europe is still buying over €700 millions a day of petrol and gaz from Russia, every single day! Why is that? Because its the only place they can get it from and without it, the european economy would simply collapse. Money talks! Not human lives.
After what he is doing to Ukraine for 8 days now, the same man says ''he has no ill intention..'' I would quite certainly call him delusional... in the same way Trump still pretend he won the election...
Whether both believe what comes out of their mouth is an another question.
 

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Where is the red line that the world needs to take action against Poutine et the olgas !??
So far zit!! only talk and listen .... what an inhumain response and is Zelinsky the only brave man left standing !!??
The answer is simple...When the U.S.and the West decide to place a total embargo (sanctions) of Russian Oil and Natural Gas exports! There are no sanctions that have been placed on Russian energy exports.

The irony and hypocrisy of the Americans is that Biden is putting sanctions on access to Swift, confiscation of yachts, and other meaningless crap!

Right now Russian Oil and Gas is still flowing to export markets and it's business as usual!!

This is not Iraq where the Americans can just take out the ruling government and simply walk into Ukraine and Russia...pillage everything that is $$$ related to them like rats and steal the oil and gas which is what the Americans really care about...and then make believe they are the saviours of the population! If there's a buck in it for them then they'll do it!

It goes to show the Ukrainian people are being held hostage from all directions!.....Money talks, bullshit walks!
 
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They are the ones Pootie fears most, and the only ones he would listen to.
Not sure who fears who the most here. Putin has, in the past, sent a few of these "powerful" oligarchs in recluded prison where, we dont hear about anymore. He also proved that he's not reluctant to chase and kill his enemies anywhere around the world.
 
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After what he is doing to Ukraine for 8 days now, the same man says ''he has no ill intention..'' I would quite certainly call him delusional... in the same way Trump still pretend he won the election...
Whether both believe what comes out of their mouth is an another question.
I think comparing Putin to Trump is like comparing a tiger to a cow. Putin's background and his comprehension of the world order is undebatable, regardless of his official speaches, his provoking answers are meant to intentionaly irritate the west. On the other hand, Trump wouldn't be able to find most european capitals on a map.
 

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The answer is simple...When the U.S.and the West decide to place a total embargo (sanctions) of Russian Oil and Natural Gas exports! There are no sanctions that have been placed on Russian energy exports.
100% correct - but the problem is not so much the US as the EU, which is far more dependent on these exports. The EU is comprised of and led by spoiled, sissified pussies who are afraid to tell their constituents that they may have to suffer a little bit in the short term in order to cause the Russians to totally rethink what they are doing.
 

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I think comparing Putin to Trump is like comparing a tiger to a cow. Putin's background and his comprehension of the world order is undebatable, regardless of his official speaches, his provoking answers are meant to intentionaly irritate the west. On the other hand, Trump wouldn't be able to find most european capitals on a map.
I mostly agree, Putin is the pupet master and I know that most if not all of his speeches are for his national audience and to poke us in the eye. Nonetheless, I have my doubt about his sanity and moral compass. Would he use the nuclear weapon or is it only a bluff?
 

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The EU is comprised of and led by spoiled, sissified pussies who are afraid to tell their constituents that they may have to suffer a little bit in the short term...
Seriously? That is a very dishonest shortcut with no perspective at all. The reality is that europe has been the theater of the largest wars of modern history, some 6000 miles from the USA. Needless to say, the US territory never ever felt any threath upon its population.

Lets start with some numbers here, numbers only account for military losses.

WW1
estimated total death toll: 10 millions
estimated USA death toll: 116 000

WW2
estimated total death toll: +60 millions of which 28 millions for the USSR army, the biggest war sacrifice ever, it is said that, by including civilians death, the USSR lost 10% of its population!

estimated USA death toll: 416 000

Now at the end of both wars it was naturally established, that all european countries economy we're a total wreckage. The only economy that showed growth was the american's, due to the ability for the military industries to react and jump on the opportunity to expand. In the USA. The equation war= business took a major turn right there.

Europe was left counting and burying their death and planning to rebuild. USA saw another good opportunity to "help", sending equipment, material, manpower etc. Remember, nothing comes for free in this world. So they bargain their help for more access to european market and other stuff and also supplying ($$$$), lots of weapons and other military equipment to rebuild europe's defense.

So are europeans just a bunch of sissies? Maybe they are just more aware of the real price to pay when it comes to major conflicts going on in a high population concentration. They have much more to lose than you can imagine.

As for the USA, war is still business and strictly business. Forget about defending liberties, democracy, civil rights. That is all bs to justify the ongoing of a well implanted politics/industry association that seems to fill everybody's pockets.
 

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Seriously? That is a very dishonest shortcut with no perspective at all. The reality is that europe has been the theater of the largest wars of modern history, some 6000 miles from the USA.
It’s a myth that is really disgusting and offensive.
9-11 killed less than were killed in Germany by Allied bombers on a daily basis for years.
A couple of office buildings were destroyed in NYC. Entire cities in Europe were pulverized into dust- Berlin, Hamburg, Stalingrad.
When was the last time Americans experienced anything like the occupation of Poland? Or the siege of Leningrad?

Many people in Europe remember or have parents who remember hiding in shelters, seeing their homes destroyed. Americans see war as an adventure while Europeans avoid it.

Spoiled sissified pussies? Like the jews who fought an entire German army in the Warsaw uprising? Like Violette Szabo who led partisans against the Germans iccupying France, and ended up in a concentration camp? Like the family who risked everything to hide Anne Frank?

The main reason America has such financial power is the European devastation while America was allowed to flourish untouched.
 
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It’s a myth that is really disgusting and offensive.
9-11 killed less than were killed in Germany by Allied bombers on a daily basis for years.
A couple of office buildings were destroyed in NYC. Entire cities in Europe were pulverized into dust- Berlin, Hamburg, Stalingrad.
When was the last time Americans experienced anything like the occupation of Poland? Or the siege of Leningrad?

The main reason America has such financial power is the European devastation while America was allowed to flourish untouched.
It is offensive to any westerner out of the USA. Unfortunately not a lot of americans seem to understand, actually most of them appeared to be totally unaware of this. And then they come out and talk about fake news, disinformation, asking for truth! Risible.
 
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...adding to my Post #307,

How ironical...Russia's second largest oil company - Lukoil - operates 230 Lukoil gasoline stations in the U.S. owned by American franchisees.

Most of the service stations that carry the Lukoil brand are in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

The gas stations are still fully operational and selling gasoline!!!
 
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The main reason America has such financial power is the European devastation while America was allowed to flourish untouched.
Total bullshit. It's because the cream of the crop of every country in the world comes here to our universities to get educated and then stays here to make money. And it's been that way for generations. We also have the cream of every University in the world that gets recruited by domestic companies. I have observed it first hand. The prior posts are spewing leftist propaganda and bullshit that isn't reality. The talent in the tech world all flocks to the USA which is why our economy has flourished and because we have a better work ethic than the Europeans who are lazy, take 3 hour lunches and work 20-30 hours per week. Talent and work ethic of a nation is what builds its economy and that's why Japan has the economic power it has (in case you forgot they were also devastated by WW II).
 
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Entendu ce matin à LCN un témoignage éloquent/poignant qui doit nous faire réfléchir de LESIA VASYLENKO député Ukrainienne.

À la question ''qu'attendez-vous du Canada''.....elle répond....'' que vous et l'Otan protégiez notre espace aérien''...et elle ajoute'' avec toutes vos sanctions vous avez déclaré la guerre à POUTINE et il est déjà en guerre contre vous''.....alors mieux vaut le confronter

dès maintenant sinon de toute façon vous êtes les prochains sur sa liste....affirme t-elle........et malheureusement personnellement je dois lui donner raison.

L'Otan refuse de répondre positivement à cette requête.....mais tant qu'à les bombarder économiquement pourquoi pas passer immédiatement à une autre étape....oui ce serait un affrontement mondial avec ses toutes ses conséquences.....mais anyway c'est

inscrit dans le temps...et beaucoup de pays le savent.

Sur une note personnelle Mme VASYLENKO a placé ses 3 enfants en sécurité et garde en tout temps une arme sur elle.....et espère un jour retrouver ses enfants.....wow....assez éloquent n'est ce pas?...moi elle m'a touché droit au coeur...et convaincu.
 

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