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voyageur11 said:
A kid wih down syndrom need a lot of care what will come first national security or family?

I agree. Her decision to accept the nomination considering all the problems she has at home make me suspicious of her judgement. However, she probably wasn't around the home much in the last 2 years, which might be a reason why the 17 year old daughter got knocked up & other family-related problems arose. I suppose that the future mom-to-be didn't listen to her mother's lectures on abstinence. :rolleyes:

The bottom line: Sarah Pallin is totally unqualifed for the position she was nominated for. If this is the best that the Republican Party could come up with (whicih i know isn't the case), then the United States of America are in big, big trouble.
 

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What I have a problem with is her decision to have another child at the age of 43 knowing full well the dangers to the child. It's not like she didn't have any children already. I can understand a childless wooman wanting to have a child at all costs, but a supposedly intelligent woman like her should have been less selfish and thought of the possible consequences before her own selfish desire to have another kid.

But I guess now the situation plays in her favour doesn't it? The valiant pro-lifer who has even given birth to a known disabled baby.:rolleyes:

I couldn't have said it any better!!
 

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Maxima said:
Pure half truth manipulation of the liberal left (Daily Kos). But hey, if you take every thing on Daily Kos at face value then what can I say.

1) Palin has been member of the Republican party since 1982. She was never part of the Alaska Independence Party.
2) She only attended the AIP convention once in 2000, when the convention was held in her home town, she visited "as a courtesy since she was mayor"
3) Palin recorded a message welcoming party members to its 2008 convention as part of her duties as Governor of Alaska.

Does put rather a different light on it for sure... thanks.
 

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I hate the way the republicans have been saying it would be a mistake to politicize the issue. Did they not use her youngest child (the one with down syndrome) to substantiate her pro-life credentials?

I found this BBC article to be quite informative. I am posting an excerpt but the full article is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7593735.stm

The US offers government funding for health education programmes that promote sexual abstinence until marriage, although US lawmakers were investigating earlier this year whether to cut the funding.

State governments receive federal money they must match to fund abstinence programmes.

Opponents of abstinence education say the approach ignores the fact that teenagers are sexually active and fails to give them accurate medical information or advice on safer sex.

Governor Palin herself has said she opposes funding sexual-education programmes in Alaska and has supported abstinence programmes in schools.

"The explicit sex-ed programmes will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates, the Associated Press reports.


Basically I would like to ask Sarah Palin "Does preaching Abstinence work?". She should be thankful that her daughter just got pregnant and didn't contract HIV!
 

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Doc Holliday said:
So i guess you're one of those anti-abortion folks? :confused:
I love it...you would never agree to put the worst mass murderer to death but your pro abortion. I wonder how this works.
 

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I know this is a thread about Palin's daughter's baby but I am sick and tired of sitting back and listening how everyone that votes Republican is stereotyped as the religious right. I vote Republican nearly every election. I am a non-practicing Catholic. I am pretty much an agnostic. I don't give a shit about gay marriage, abortion or baseball players on steroids. I believe drugs, prostitutes, drinking at 18 should all be legalized. This election comes down to 2 issues. 1. Which party is more likely to drill for oil and build nuclear reactors and 2. which party is least likely to tax the hell out of me. I vote Republican because I believe that we have a better shot at having a more robust economy under a Republican Administration. If you want to stereotype, Democrats stand for higher taxes and bigger government...and it is amazing how righteous their followers are. If you don't believe so just read a few threads on MERB!

In reality we are probably screwed either way. I think we will be less screwed with McCain than with Obama
 
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I vote Republican because I believe that we have a better shot at having a more robust economy under a Republican Administration. If you want to stereotype, Democrats stand for higher taxes and bigger government...and it is amazing how righteous their followers are. If you don't believe so just read a few threads on MERB!

Hello Hungry,

You mean like the "robust economy" we have now under nearly 8 years of Bush...bwahahahaha. Do you realize the size of the government has become the biggest it's ever been under Bush, and how much of your taxes has been spent on this war already??????? Deal with that instead of automatically trotting out the favorite Republican diatribes about the Democrats like a Republican rally poster.

Silly,

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I think people ought to focus on WHY she named her daughter Bristol in the first place... I mean what kind of a name is Bristol for a little girl, or for a grown woman?

It's no wonder her life is already unravelling into a tabloid mess.

Name like Bristol should be reserved for children of celebrities. Point finale.

BD

Wondered about that myself.... I think this may give the answer.... makes it seem nicer now....

Palin Described Her Husband As A North Slope Production Worker, A Commercial Fisherman.
Asked about her husband, Palin said, “He is a North Slope production worker. His name is Todd Palin,
and he’s a commercial fisherman. In fact, he’s doing swaps, making up time up there now so he can take
off the time to fish. As a family, we commercial fish in Bristol Bay. We’re out there with our nets on the
beach and on the skiff. Todd, he’s Alaska native, born and raised in Bristol Bay, so he’s been doing that
forever.” [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 6/8/05]


This is from the document in the link below. It's absolutely amazing what is dug up on candidates. Even gives the motor vehicles the family owned.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_palin.html

For its purported origin see:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/
 

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Korbel said:
Hello Hungry,

You mean like the "robust economy" we have now under nearly 8 years of Bush...bwahahahaha. Do you realize the size of the government has become the biggest it's ever been under Bush, and how much of your taxes has been spent on this war already??????? Deal with that instead of automatically trotting out the favorite Republican diatribes about the Democrats like a Republican rally poster.

Silly,

Korbel

Yes the Republicans under Bush got away from one of their core beliefs about spending. They proved that they could tax and spend as much as a Kennedy. Now they are paying the price. Enclosed is an article by George Will about Obama. http://www.newsweek.com/id/134316. McCain pledges to drill off shore and build Nuclear reactors. What is good for our economy is cheap energy. This is good enough for me. Also, I hove more confidence that McCain will make better decisions when is comes to foreighn policy and national defense.
 

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Maxima said:
Pure half truth manipulation of the liberal left (Daily Kos). But hey, if you take every thing on Daily Kos at face value then what can I say.

1) Palin has been member of the Republican party since 1982. She was never part of the Alaska Independence Party.
2) She only attended the AIP convention once in 2000, when the convention was held in her home town, she visited "as a courtesy since she was mayor"
3) Palin recorded a message welcoming party members to its 2008 convention as part of her duties as Governor of Alaska.
Hello Maxima,

Well, if you don't care for the "Daily Kos" (never heard of it myself) how about:

Forbes-

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/09/02/ap5380906.html

Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Sarah Palin herself was never a member of the party, according to state officials.

Guardian-


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/02/uselections2008.republicans20085?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews

Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence party (AIP) before becoming an elected Republican official, according to party members, and recorded a video message for the AIP convention this year. The AIP's chief goal is securing Alaska a vote on seceding from the US, a goal that party leaders believe the state was denied before it became part of the US almost 50 years ago.

Yet it is the AIP's motto, "Alaska First, Alaska Always", that may cause the most trouble for McCain. The Republican's campaign slogan this year is "Country First".

National Post-

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-s-alaskan-independence-party-raises-questions-about-vetting-process.aspx

But Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

Cheers,

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Palin: Soldiers..."out on a task that is from God".

Hello all,

This should be interesting:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/02/1327574.aspx

She urged students to pray “that our leaders -- that our national leaders -- are sending [soldiers] out on a task that is from God.”

She added, “That's what we have to make sure that we are praying for: that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan.”


“It's pretty uncomfortable stuff,” said the political operative, after watching the video online. “It's bad. It's really bad. … It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.”


In addition to talking about Iraq, Palin also referred to God's role in her work as governor.


“I can do my part in working really, really hard to get a natural gas pipeline, about a $30 billion project that's going to create a lot of jobs for Alaska. … [but] I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that,” she said. “I can do my job there in developing our natural resources, in doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded. But really that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's hearts aren't right with God.”


Cheers all,



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It appears her son was named Track because of her love of track and field.... kind of sounds like a 4 year old girl at play...

I imagine old Track is happy that his Mom wasn't a fan of the "Clean and Jerk" in weightlifting. (Note to self: they have it backwards don't they? Everyone jerks and then cleans, don't they????)

On another note here is an interesting quote:

Southern Baptist leaders like Richard Land and Al Mohler have praised McCain's choice. But these are the same men who support this statement from the 2000 Baptist Faith & Message:

"A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.".


Barf bag please.....
 

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Dee said:
It appears her son was named Track because of her love of track and field.... kind of sounds like a 4 year old girl at play...

I imagine old Track is happy that his Mom wasn't a fan of the "Clean and Jerk" in weightlifting. (Note to self: they have it backwards don't they? Everyone jerks and then cleans, don't they????)

On another note here is an interesting quote:

Southern Baptist leaders like Richard Land and Al Mohler have praised McCain's choice. But these are the same men who support this statement from the 2000 Baptist Faith & Message:

"A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.".


Barf bag please.....
Hello Dee,

Do you get the feeling this woman is going to be a fountain of comedy one-liners, and abundant skit material for Saturday Night Live...lol.

Go Girl,

Korbel
 

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Hello Dee,

Do you get the feeling this woman is going to be a fountain of comedy one-liners, and abundant skit material for Saturday Night Live...lol.

Go Girl,

Korbel


For sure! One wit has already opined that the writers for Letterman and Leno can go on holidays now... as Shell Busey would say: "It's just that easy!"
 

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Dee said:
For sure! One wit has already opined that the writers for Letterman and Leno can go on holidays now... as Shell Busey would say: "It's just that easy!"

Lol Dee,

Yeah this is one woman who when she screams..."oh God...oh God...oh God", really believes she's doing it for God. I'm truly surprised she only has five kids.

Ohhhhhh GOD!

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Maxima said:
Korbel,

You actually did not read what you wrote and you did not read what I wrote neither.
For example:
No Maxima,

I did read what you wrote and what I highlighted. I am not going to cheat by attempting to hide contradictory reports. I am not going to be unfair and display only what might suit me. But I see you left out everything that doesn't support your point of view, like all of the rest I posted. So you choose to credit only the part of the Forbes report that serves you huh. Interesting.

Cheers,

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Dee said:
Are you sure you aren't a Bill Clinton supporter?

I am a staunch conservative right wing republican but sexually I am a democrat!
 

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Maxima said:
Oh I see, that why you deliberately left out the following from Forbes? Good for you.
Lol Maxima,

So where did you find that information??? Let's see...hmmmm...uh huh...maybe...IN THE LINK I PROVIDED!:D

DUH!

Korbel

PS

Not willing to post everything that says she was a AIP member in the other reports though huh: or that Forbes says her husband is a long time member.
 
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Maxima said:
Not sure I understand your point. What did I left out?
Why did you not highlited the following?
Look Maxima,

The point is I hid nothing. I posted key parts of all three reports, including being fair about displaying contradicting reports. I did not post the full text of any of the three. So if you want to accuse me of selective editing that's your mistaken view. Did you expect me to highlight every key point instead of doing some reading on your own in the links I provided? I knew there was plenty there in all reports on both sides. I hope you didn't mind looking for it yourself. You still have not been fair in posting other information that says she was a member of the AIP. Nice selectivity.

And, what's this about the chairman of the AIP Lynette Clark's assertion that "Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla" is "unsubstantiated" according to you? Why unsubstantiated? Why not the others? It would seem like the chairman of the AIP would be exactly the one to substantiate the facts. Or is it that her assertion doesn't this suit your view?

So you don't see any conflict of interest in Forbes saying she wasn't a member of the AIP after she backed Forbes for President in 2000?

..."show Palin never registered as a member of the Independence Party, and backed Steve Forbes' presidential campaign in 2000, not Buchanan."

Cheers,

Korbel
 
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