Sarah Pallins 17-year old daughter chooses her first husband!

[hungry101]

Hello Doc,

Oh my goodness. Don't tell that to Hungry101. Only Democrats raise taxes in his world.

I did see some film clips of her this morning on CNN. Oh how she loves to hold the baby for the cameras. What a nice Grandma. Some Republican pundit even tried to make a connection between Palin's parenthood and her qualification for office. Do daddys get the same esteem????? It's truly embarrassing how some of these Republicans are trying to make the case for her qualifications. I can't ever remember seeing any information on any man being qualified for the Presidency or any office for being a parent.

Joke,

Korbel

Wait till the Democratic party gets in and saves the world with Gore's carbon offset credits and trading which will be the largest tax increase in the history of man. And then the Democrats will back Kyoto which will let India and China make a toilet of the world but the US will have to cap all their carbon emissions. There may be a day when other countries will seek reparations from the US. I hope the party of appeasement and apologists are not in total control when this happens.

Are the Republicans always right? Hell no, they are politicians just like the Democrats. The primary function of both parties is to get reelected. As Albert Einstein said "A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth." You and your friend Doc (who is never wrong) should take this to heart. Believe me, the democrats are not as pure as the driven snow. I shouldn't have to tell you this. I believe that you are from Mass. This is where Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank come from. We are talking about people (politicians) that when the world is going to hell and a hand basket, they are holding congressional hearings to talk about HGH and steroids in baseball players. Hell, for the money they get paid, maybe steroid use should be mandatory for baseball players but I digress.

I just believe that we have a better chance to prosper with McCain and the hot lady from Alaska. I could be wrong but this is my opinion. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion in this forum.

 

[korbel]

...when the world is going to hell and a hand basket, they are holding congressional hearings to talk about HGH and steroids in baseball players. Hell, for the money they get paid, maybe steroid use should be mandatory for baseball players but I digress.

I just believe that we have a better chance to prosper with McCain and the hot lady from Alaska. I could be wrong but this is my opinion. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion in this forum.

Hello Hungry101,

You talk about the same old politics then you have the gall to indicate "the hot lady" is a good idea. Damn man...what a joke. I always though McCain was the best Republican around going back about 20 years because he was never a sycophant of the Rove conservatives or the religious right. But he has really undercut everything he stood for in selecting this cut-rate cheap barbie doll who was so obviously chosen to placate the very same Republican elements he was so esteemed for standing against. It's pure cynical political expediency at it's worst. When McCain should have stood firm as the man he was known to be he turned hypocrite just to try to win.

And who put the world in the state of "hell in a hand Basket"? That's right...the idiot G. W. Bush and the Republicans.

Oh Yeah...so you have no retort for all the tax money...around $450,000,000,000 ( oh that's a huge number ) that Bush has spent on this war...or the record size of government under him. No, didn't think so.

Shameful,

Korbel

 

[Doc Holliday]

You and your friend Doc (who is never wrong) should take this to heart. Believe me, the democrats are not as pure as the driven snow. I shouldn't have to tell you this.

First of all, you give me too much credit. I do happen to be wrong once in a while & when i am, i usually admit it. Second, only a dingbat would believe that the Democrats are pure as driven snow. Nobody asked you to point this out. But the Democrats are presently the lesser of two evils. The Republicans made a farce out of the American political system over the past 8 years & destroyed a country named Iraq...i mean, DESTROYED with a capital D!!!

During that unecessary destruction, hundreds of thousands of innocent lives were sacrificed & i'm still not sure for what. Ego? Payback? Oil? Who knows.

But the problems with these incompetent buffoons who've been running the country over this decade are a lot more than just Iraq. The economy is shit, civil rights have been thrown out the window, torture has been embraced & eavesdropping on its citizens has become the norm. People can be snatched up in airports & held without trial & some have even been shipped out to unfriendly countries for torture. For the past 8 years, it's been scandal after scandal & there's no end in sight to the travesty that is the Iraq war. Jack Abrahmoff got 4 years in jail today & he's only one of many poster boys for the corruption that's been predominant during the George W. Bush presidency. I could go on & on & on about this...heck, i haven't even got to Alberto Gonzalez, Harriet Myers & the intentional 'outing' of a spy. It's been a total farce!!

 

[hungry101]

Hello Hungry101,

You talk about the same old politics then you have the gall to indicate "the hot lady" is a good idea. Damn man...what a joke. ....Shameful,

Korbel

You need to lighten up a little, you know...have a sense of humor like your buddy Doc

She is hot

 

[korbel]

You need to lighten up a little, you know...have a sense of humor like your buddy Doc

She is hot

Hello Hungry,

I don't know if you are an American or not, but I am. This choice of McCain's is not funny. We've had 8 years of the worst Presidency in U.S. history under ultra conservatives, and now McCain has picked another. Aside from this unqualified woman, McCain has sold out to a faction of the party he has built his reputation separating himself from and made himself a viable choice for the center. Now look at him...way back to the right. Before he picked her I thought, even if Obama loses, McCain isn't nearly as bad as Bush. Now I am stunned. He's sold out to the same people who have caused all the damage.

Shameful,

Korbel

 

[korbel]

Hello all,


Sep 05, 2008 (Boston Herald - McClatchy-Tribune Information Services via COMTEX) -- After three nights of Rudy, Mitt, Sarah and Papa John, one might get the impression that Washington had been "broken" by a cabal of bloated, beer-swilling, pork-chomping, tree-hugging, liberal Democrats.

Today, as John McCain and daughter Sarah Palin set out from the sanctuary of St. Paul, insurgent reporters from the evil media are going to be impudent enough to point out the obvious:

The two men who've been running a "broken" Washington these past eight years are a couple of country-club Republicans named Bush and Cheney. And for six of those years, these Republican cousins of John McCain and Sarah Palin controlled the Congress.

We are in debt up to our eyeballs. Foreclosure signs outnumber "For Sale" signs. The Hummer culture has been killed off by $4 gallons of gasoline. We are bleeding blood and treasure in Iraq. Wall Street pigs have run our IRAs into the ground. George Bush kicks back a measly six hundred bucks in April and tells America to go out and buy a washing machine or maybe a flat-screen TV, as a patriotic way to jump-start our flat-lined economy.

And Sarah Bright Eyes says it's all Barack Obama's fault. Yeah . . . yeah, that sounds about right.

Sarah Palin was plucked from the state house in Juneau, Alaska, by a guy who's spent the past 30 years in Washington, most of them as an entrenched, senior member in the most exclusive old boys clubs -- the U.S. Senate. Do you suppose that makes John McCain one of the dreaded "Washington elite?"

No . . . absolutely not, because we all know he's a "maverick." But then, somewhere along this campaign trail, those irksome reporters are going to recall the time when John "Maverick" McCain joined a few of his fellow Washington pols in the service of a savings and loan pirate by the name of Charles H. Keating Jr., who ruined the lives of thousands. Yes, John McCain was also one of the select members of another elite club better known as the "Keating Five."

But as they say, that was then. And Sarah Palin's white-haired mentor has been seeking redemption ever since.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden can talk all they want about striving to break down the barriers that separate Blue America from Red America. They can talk about building a bridge across the cultural divide.

But for the time being, the only bridge Spunky Sarah is going to be talking about is the $400 million Bridge to Nowhere, the one proposed by her fellow Alaskan Republican, the now-indicted senior senator from the Yukon, Ted Stevens.

In her star turn two nights ago, Sarah cast herself as the Joan of Arc who single-handedly stood up and said, "Thanks, but no thanks," to all that Washington pork. Of course, she conveniently neglected to mention that she was very much in a favor of her Republican senator's bridge, until it became a national joke and the light bulb suddenly went on in Sarah's comely political head. As mayor of the tank town, Wasilla, she also hired a lobbyist to extract $27 million in Washington fat. Ah, but that's what a clever pol does. She changes her position to fit the situation. Isn't that right, Mitt Romney?

In a kinder, gentler time, the Sarah Palin story would've been a Frank Capra movie, "Sarah Goes To Washington." Today, it feels more like a Wes Craven horror film. Sadly, if anything seems clear after St. Paul, it's that the next eight or nine weeks are going to be very, very ugly.

At every turn, one perky, unflappable woman and her 72-year-old Washington elitist running mate are not going to defend the last eight years of Republican rule, because they can't. What they will do instead is exploit the fears and massage the divisions of race, class and gender. After all, it's the American way.

By the way...the Herald tends to be very pro-Republican.

Cheers,

Korbel

 

[future canadian]

one day the US will have a viable third party ... but I truly believe in about five to ten years, there will be a major social change in the USA.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Palin is so stupid to the point that nobody hears much about good old Biden anymore. Even Merb senior posters keep talking about her instead of Biden. The stupid woman even made a fool of herself in front of close to 40 million viewers....nearly matching Obama's and double the number of viewers watching Biden speech at the DNC. The Democrats are so happy that McCain selected such a bozzo of a woman as a running mate that they keep talking about her. With such a bozzo on McCain ticket there is no need to praise good old Biden anymore as victory is now in the Democrat's pockets for sure.

Most people with a brain in their head still cannot fathom the thought that McCain would have picked someone with less experience than my own banker for the 2nd most powerful position in Washington, which is more critical in the upcoming elections since the chances of John McCain dying while in office if he's elected are 50-50, which would put his running mate in the driver's seat until at least the next elections. That's why Sarah Palin has presently become the most talked-about politician in DC. Yes, because of her lack of experience & the fact that she was a surprise choice (a shocking selection, actually), but also because she's a woman....a young woman who isn't sore on the eyes...and because she's already involved in scandals & it's barely been over a week or two since she was picked as the phony maverick's running mate. Biden isn't news since we've all seen him speak on tv & have known about him for decades & many consider him to be a top pick for the vice-presidency. If his ticket wins, it's quite unlikely he'll ever replace Obama & get the presidency due to Obama's very young age as compared to Grandpa McCain.

One of the reasons why the viewership that night outnumbered the viewership from the Democratic Convention is due to some of the reasons i mentionned in the above paragraph, but also people were glued to their tv sets during the first couple of days of the convention due to the Hurricane Gustav on-going reporting. But hey, let's be honest....many of us who are still in total shock & disbelief with Palin's selection were curious & wanted to see how well she'd do reading Karl Rove's speech. She performed brilliantly, but of course, i wasn't surprised since i was aware that she used to be a tv newscaster in the past.

As for her selection, i'm not sure anymore if it's such a dumb move or a brilliant one by Grandpa McCain. Last night, i was chatting with a couple of my American friends & i asked them: "Do you guys realize they're trying to pull a fast one on you? Do you honestly think there's a chance McCain will win? Both my American friends bluntly told me: "Doc, when it comes to elections, Americans are so stupid that it wouldn't surprise us that they forget the complete disaster that the past 8 years have been & elect McCain!! Don't forget, 4 years ago, we were almost certain that Bush wouldn't be re-elected, yet they scared & put fear in the voters so much that the voters felt they had no choice but to vote for them & they did!" Wow!! That caught me completely off-guard!! Will history repeat itself?

 

[korbel]

Most people with a brain in their head still cannot fathom the thought that McCain would have picked someone with less experience than my own banker for the 2nd most powerful position in Washington,...

Hello Doc,

I saw David Gergen, who "in addition to serving in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations,...was also a campaign staffer for G. H. W. Bush"s 1980 presidential campaign, on CNN right after the Palin choice. He was so bewildered by the selection that he seemed at a total loss to find any the words to explain it. He ended up repeating what was basically a lost exercise in trying to find any good rationale for the choice. The general idea was, with so many other more qualified possibilities how do you pick a woman who less than 2 years ago was mayor of a town of 7,000.

As for her courage in rejecting the enormous waste in tax money for the "Bridge to Nowhere", here's what one article had to say:

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN3125537020080901

Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans.

By Yereth Rosen
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - It garnered big applause in her first speech as Republican John McCain's vice presidential pick, but Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for the so-called "bridge to nowhere" has upset many Alaskans.

During her first speech after being named as McCain's surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to nowhere."

In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

The bridge, a span from the city to Gravina Island, home to only a few dozen people, secured a $223 million earmark in 2005. The pricey designation raised a furor and critics, including McCain, used the bridge as an example of wasteful federal spending on politicians' pet projects.
When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.

"People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.

Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.
National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion.
Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.

The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding. In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.

"She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.

Former state House Speaker Gail Phillips, a Republican who represented the Kenai Peninsula city of Homer, is also critical about Palin's reversal on the bridge issue.

"You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006 gubernatorial race.

A press release issued by the governor on September 21, 2007 said she decided to cancel state work on the project because of rising cost estimates.

"It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Palin said in the news release. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here."

(Editing by Daisuke Wakabayashi and Sandra Maler)

I hope Reuter's is an acceptable source Maxima?????

Cheerio,

Korbel

 

[korbel]

Oh GOD!

Hello all,

I am listening to CNN do a special on Sarah Palin and her Pentecostal religious beliefs. One of the things she is said to believe is that the end of the world is coming and Alaska will be the center of salvation for all. Other beliefs include "speaking in tongues"...converting gays...absolute prohibition of abortion...and that the Holy Spirit dwells more fully in them than anyone else. You can read the rest here, or find your own sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism

Enjoy,

Korbel

PS

Oh yeah...she thinks the war in Iraq should be guided by God. On the surface that seems almost harmlessly natural. But, oh when I think of all the battles and wars left..."in Gods hands"...or as...Deus Lo Vult ("God wills it")...and the slaughter and destruction that followed. Weren't the Crusades fun.

 

[Red Paul]

This woman never ceases to surprise me. Now i hear that there are very good chances that the mentally handicapped baby isn't hers but her daughter Bristol's, who's once again preggers.

From what I've seen, Sarah Palin is perfectly willing to lie about her public record. But the evidence does not indicate she lied about being pregnant. A couple of photos show her in the weeks before the Downs baby's birth; she sure looks pregnant in them. You must also consider whether poor Bristol could actually give birth to one kid a few months ago and now be several months' pregnant with another kid.

 

[metoo4]

I've heard these rumors also but who can prove they're more than rumors? Somebody's offering themselves to get DNA samples?

A woman can get pregnant again only a few month after giving birth. I know a guy who's 10 month older than his sister! My sister is just shy of 1 year from my brother. My aunts and uncles (13 total) have an average of 11 month in between.

As far as "looking pregnant", don't you watch TV and movies? It's easy to fake.

 

[future canadian]

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1384

and Palin actually had good things to say about Obama's oil policy (this has since been removed from her website)

 

[Dee]

Well, well, well... appears that the GOP may have a minister problem at least as bad as the Democrats:


http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html
Palin linked electoral success to prayer of Kenyan witchhunter

http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/blog_hstrange_2.jpghttp://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/blog_hstrange_2.jpg The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.


http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/muthee_400156g.jpgAt a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.


In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: “As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”


“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”


She then adds: “So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church,” before the presiding pastor comments on the “prophetic power” of the event.


An African evangelist, Pastor Muthee has given guest sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God on at least 10 occasions in his role as the founder of the Word of Faith Church, also known as the Prayer Cave.



Pastor Muthee founded the Prayer Cave in 1989 in Kiambu, Kenya after “God spoke” to him and his late wife Margaret and called him to the country, according to the church’s website.


The pastor speaks of his offensive against a demonic presence in the town in a trailer for the evangelical video “Transformations”, made by Sentinel Group, a Christian research and information agency.


“We prayed, we fasted, the Lord showed us a spirit of witchcraft resting over the place,” Pastor Muthee says.
After the spirit was broken, the crime rate dropped to almost zero and there was “explosive church growth” while almost every bar in the town closed down, the video says.
The full Transformations video featuring Pastor Muthee’s story has recently been removed from YouTube but the rest of the story is detailed in a 1999 article in the Christian Science Monitor, as well as on numerous evangelical websites.


According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a “divination” centre called the Emmanuel Clinic.


Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Pastor Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town’s ills, and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.


Says the Monitor, “Muthee held a crusade that “brought about 200 people to Christ”.” They set up round-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor “the demonic influence – the ‘principality’ over Kiambu –was broken”, and Mama Jane fled the town.


According to accounts of the witchhunt circulated on evangelical websites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Pastor Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python which they believed to be a demon.


After Mama Jane was questioned by police – and released – she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.

Pastor Muthee has frequently referred to this witchhunt in his sermons as an example of the power of “spiritual warfare”. In October 2005, he delivered ten sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church’s website until it was removed around the time Mrs Palin’s candidacy was announced. The blog Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.



It was during that these sermons that Mrs Palin, who was then preparing for her gubernatorial run, was anointed by Pastor Muthee. His intercession, she says, was “awesome”.

Her June 8 speech was to mark the graduation of students from the Wasilla Assembly of God’s Masters’ Commission, which, as Pastor Ed Kalins explains, believes Alaska will be the refuge for American evangelicals upon the coming “End of Days”. After her speech, Mrs Palin was presented with an honorary Masters’ Commission diploma.

 

[korbel]

Well, well, well... appears that the GOP may have a minister problem at least as bad as the Democrats:


http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html
Palin linked electoral success to prayer of Kenyan witchhunter

http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/blog_hstrange_2.jpg The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.


http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/muthee_400156g.jpgAt a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.


In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: “As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”


“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”


She then adds: “So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church,” before the presiding pastor comments on the “prophetic power” of the event.


An African evangelist, Pastor Muthee has given guest sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God on at least 10 occasions in his role as the founder of the Word of Faith Church, also known as the Prayer Cave.



Pastor Muthee founded the Prayer Cave in 1989 in Kiambu, Kenya after “God spoke” to him and his late wife Margaret and called him to the country, according to the church’s website.


The pastor speaks of his offensive against a demonic presence in the town in a trailer for the evangelical video “Transformations”, made by Sentinel Group, a Christian research and information agency.


“We prayed, we fasted, the Lord showed us a spirit of witchcraft resting over the place,” Pastor Muthee says.
After the spirit was broken, the crime rate dropped to almost zero and there was “explosive church growth” while almost every bar in the town closed down, the video says.
The full Transformations video featuring Pastor Muthee’s story has recently been removed from YouTube but the rest of the story is detailed in a 1999 article in the Christian Science Monitor, as well as on numerous evangelical websites.


According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a “divination” centre called the Emmanuel Clinic.


Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Pastor Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town’s ills, and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.


Says the Monitor, “Muthee held a crusade that “brought about 200 people to Christ”.” They set up round-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor “the demonic influence – the ‘principality’ over Kiambu –was broken”, and Mama Jane fled the town.


According to accounts of the witchhunt circulated on evangelical websites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Pastor Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python which they believed to be a demon.


After Mama Jane was questioned by police – and released – she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.

Pastor Muthee has frequently referred to this witchhunt in his sermons as an example of the power of “spiritual warfare”. In October 2005, he delivered ten sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church’s website until it was removed around the time Mrs Palin’s candidacy was announced. The blog Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.



It was during that these sermons that Mrs Palin, who was then preparing for her gubernatorial run, was anointed by Pastor Muthee. His intercession, she says, was “awesome”.

Her June 8 speech was to mark the graduation of students from the Wasilla Assembly of God’s Masters’ Commission, which, as Pastor Ed Kalins explains, believes Alaska will be the refuge for American evangelicals upon the coming “End of Days”. After her speech, Mrs Palin was presented with an honorary Masters’ Commission diploma.

Hello Dee,

The sad part is that the religious right will probably love her more for this, while many of the rest of us will question the lucidity of her mind. For me, being rather blunt and unkind, the phrase "nut case" comes to mind.

Geeeez,

Korbie

 

[korbel]

Hello all,

It looks like there is a new push to cover up an investigation that could embarrass Palin. What seems to an investigation focusing on the essence of her "clean-government" image now seems to be in jeopardy due to partisan politics.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080916/Palin.Troopergate/

Troopergate probe running into new resistance


JUNEAU, Alaska — Alaska's investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power, a potentially damaging distraction for John McCain's presidential campaign, ran into intensified resistance Tuesday from state Republican lawmakers who want to end it or delay it past the election.

Alaska's House speaker, a Republican who supported the "Troopergate" investigation two months ago, openly questioned its impartiality and raised the possibility of delaying the findings. The surprise maneuver by Rep. John Harris reflected deepening resolve by Republicans to spare Palin embarrassment or worse in the final weeks of the presidential campaign.

And it marked a further fraying of a bipartisan consensus, formed by a unanimous panel before Palin became McCain's running mate, that her firing of the state's public safety commissioner justified the ethical investigation.

In a letter, Harris wrote that what "started as a bipartisan and impartial effort is becoming overshadowed by public comments from individuals at both ends of the political spectrum," and he urged lawmakers to meet quickly to decide on a course.

"What I may be in favor of is having the report delayed, but only if it becomes a blatant partisan issue," he told The Associated Press, while indicating he already believes it has become politically tainted.

Democratic state Sen. Kim Elton, chairman of the Legislative Council, the 14-member panel that authorized the probe, had no immediate comment on Harris' request. Under an unusual power-sharing agreement, the council is made up of 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats.

At issue is whether Palin abused her power by pressing the commissioner to remove her former brother-in-law as an Alaska state trooper, then firing the commissioner when he didn't.
The matter risks casting a shadow on Palin's reputation, central to her appeal in the campaign, that she is a clean-government advocate who takes on entrenched interests — not a governor who tried to use her authority behind the scenes to settle a personal score.

Palin has defended her behavior and said she welcomed the investigation. "Hold me accountable," she said. But she and the McCain campaign have taken actions that could slow the probe, possibly past Election Day.

Also Tuesday, five Republican state lawmakers filed a lawsuit against an investigation they called "unlawful, biased, partial and partisan." None serves on the bipartisan Legislative Council that unanimously approved the inquiry. They it pushed past the election or top Democrats removed from the probe.

Making clear the dispute has ramifications beyond Alaska, Liberty Legal Institute, a Texas-based legal advocacy group, was working on the lawsuit. The institute has taken on a variety of cases in defense of conservative Christian positions.

Anchorage attorney Kevin G. Clarkson said he and the Texas group were donating their work on the lawsuit. "We just want to take the politics out of it and bring fairness back into it."
Elton called the lawsuit "a distraction."

"I'm comfortable with the notion that the court will review the substance of the suit and find the Council acted properly and that the decisions made during the course of the investigation so far are appropriate and well within the mandate of the Council," Elton said. "The silver lining in this action initiated by the five lawmakers is that some of that debate now has been kicked to the judicial branch which, unlike the Legislature and the governor's office, is more insulated from the red-hot passion of presidential politics," he said.

Palin fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan in July.
Weeks later, it emerged that Palin, her husband, Todd, and several high-level staffers had contacted Monegan about state trooper Mike Wooten, who had gone through a nasty divorce from Palin's sister before Palin became governor. While Monegan says no one from the administration ever told him directly to fire Wooten, he says their repeated contacts made it clear they wanted Wooten gone.

Palin maintains that she fired Monegan over budget disagreements, not because he wouldn't dismiss her ex-brother-in-law. She has sought through her lawyer to have the matter investigated in a more favorable forum, the state personnel board.

Last week, the state Senate Judiciary Committee voted to issue subpoenas for Todd Palin as well as nearly a dozen others and to gain phone records of a top aide to the governor. The subpoenas seek to force their cooperation in the investigation.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

So if Palin welcomes the investigation and wants to be held "accountable"...what's the problem?

Whew,

Korbel

 

[Dee]

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander - thank, uhm, Gawd there is a separation in the USA of church and state.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMCvq26d2M

 

[korbel]

McCain Slams Saturday Night Live.

Hello all,

Remember Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182

McCain camp calls Fey's Palin portrayal ‘sexist’

Plus: Cindy McCain says ‘View’ hosts ‘picked our bones clean’

Access Hollywoodupdated 4:34 p.m. ET, Tues., Sept. 16, 2008

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In a war of words reminiscent of Vice President Dan Quayle taking on television character Murphy Brown in the 1992 presidential election, John McCain’s camp is slamming Tina Fey’s impersonation of Governor Sarah Palin on “Saturday Night Live,” while Cindy McCain is calling out the ladies of “The View.”

“SNL” had its highest rated season premiere since 2002, but some members of the McCain campaign were not laughing.

Millions of viewers tuned in to see “30 Rock” star and “SNL” alum Tina Fey portray Sarah Palin alongside Amy Poehler, who did her Sen. Hillary Clinton impression.

continued....

lol,

Korbel

 

[Red Paul]

Don't be a woman in Wasilla unless you're mayor. Don't be a woman in Alaska unless you're governor.

Jon Stewart mentioned the other night that Mayor Palin's Wasilla charged rape victims for the cost of forensic testing. No money? No justice for you.

Now McCain's people say she fired the state's public security commissioner because he was too gung ho about keeping women from getting raped. They say it wasn't because the guy refused to fire Palin's ex-brother-in-law. No, they say, the last straw was that he went off to Washington to get more money for anti-rape efforts. The Governor wanted Sen. Ted Stevens concentrating on her earmark requests.

Hey, maybe both reasons are true. Either way Gov. Palin is a wonderful human being.

From the McClatchy news service:

A May 23, 2000, article in Wasilla's newspaper, The Frontiersman, noted that Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies regularly pay for such exams, which cost between $300 and $1,200 apiece.

"(But) the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests," the newspaper reported.

It also quoted Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon objecting to the law. Fannon was appointed to his position by Palin after her dismissal of the previous police chief. He said it would cost Wasilla $5,000 to $14,000 a year if the city had to foot the bill for rape exams.​

The law mentioned was passed by Alaska to make sure rape victims wouldn't have to pay for justice.

From the Associated Press:

The last straw, the McCain campaign said, was in July, when Monegan planned to travel to Washington to seek federal money for a plan to assign troopers, judges and prosecutors who could exclusively handle sexual assault cases — one of the state's most intractable crime problems.

In a July 7 e-mail, John Katz, the governor's special counsel, noted two problems with the trip: The governor hadn't agreed the money should be sought, and the request was "out of sequence with our other appropriations requests and could put a strain on the evolving relationship between the Governor and Sen. (Ted) Stevens."

Four days later, Monegan was fired. He said he had kept others in the administration fully apprised of his plans to go to Washington.​

 

[korbel]

Hello all,

Looks like it's back to reality:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/17/1409425.aspx
First thoughts: Has the worm turned?

Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:30 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: First Thoughts

From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Carrie Dann *** Has the worm turned? After the news of the crisis on Wall Street, McCain’s “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” stumble on Monday, the slip-ups yesterday by McCain’s two biggest economic surrogates (see below for more on that), and four days of sustained TV ad and email blasts by the Obama campaign and the DNC, the political worm seems to have turned a tad since the Palin bounce. Indeed, while we’re not crazy about focusing too much on those daily tracking polls, their needles have moved in Obama’s direction the past couple of days (and we bet that continues today). And guess what -- we’re not talking as much about Palin as we were last week, except for the latest developments in the Troopergate scandal in Alaska. The race has turned back into McCain vs. Obama, and it currently is sitting on turf (the economy) that should favor Democrats. In fact, even the McCain campaign tacitly acknowledges Palin's off the front pages with a new TV ad today that doesn't mention Palin at all -- not even a "McCain-Palin" Administration. It’s simply McCain. By the way, a car-bomb attack today on the US embassy in Yemen (which killed 16 people, including six security forces, six terrorists, and four civilians) reminds us that the focus of the presidential race -- as well as that political worm -- can turn at a moment’s notice.

continued on the link....

Toodles,

Korbel