Secret diary of a boy who calls girl

[Rebaynia]

Well…it is an open board. So unless I am rude to you. I can question the purpose of your threads

So you took her on a date
No review?
What was the cost of this entire day for 1 sog?
You seem to enjoy answering others and in place of others…so why not answer mine?

The goal of the activity and visit, isn't just the 1 SOG. It's the beautiful wonder and expierience of sharing it with another person who will appreciate it.

The fact that you want to reduce an entire fulfilling expierience, into a grand total price and 1 SOG, is the very reason you won't accept either the number, or the value that the whole expierience provided for that value beyond the SOG.

 

[Flyingby]

The goal of the activity and visit, isn't just the 1 SOG. It's the beautiful wonder and expierience of sharing it with another person who will appreciate it.

The fact that you want to reduce an entire fulfilling expierience, into a grand total price and 1 SOG, is the very reason you won't accept either the number, or the value that the whole expierience provided for that value beyond the SOG.

Comes back to my comment
Of course an SP would love this. She is being paid NOT to fuck

Still curious since this is a review. But not in the right section at all.
What did you charge him? And what was total coat of the day.

Ps. Don’t assume I won’t accept the number. What people do with their money is their business. Not mine

 

[zuku]

Even with an sp there can be some kind of romance, if in the end it helps the customer make the most of the experience. Why not?

Dicks don't work on automatic past a certain age, preliminaries are not only physical.

 

[Rebaynia]

Comes back to my comment
Of course an SP would love this. She is being paid NOT to fuck

Still curious since this is a review. But not in the right section at all. What did you charge him?

I am flattered you would think it was me. LeDodo provides quite beautiful date ideas beyond what I have had the pleasure to experience in my personal life, nevermind professional.

Though he tends to like a very different physical type than I am from what he shares. I am not on his SP to do list. He is just someone I respect in many ways, and I am happy for my friends who may be blessed to go on such expieriences. ♡ I can be happy for others good fortune, without it needing to be my own expierience.

 

[twenty4seven]

Still curious since this is a review. But not in the right section at all.

I don't think it's a review. In the OP it just says that they're an extension from a Social Date Idea Thread, which is what he's putting here. He's not rating an SP, or even a restaurant, he's just describing an ideal date night he's had.

 

[curly]

What's on my mind is: why pay a girl to do these social activities when most civilian girl would adore going with you on them (and many would provide free sex after such a romantic activity, or even expect that you would make crazy love to them as icing on the cake!). Keep your money for the rainy days.

 

[EastWind]

I don’t get it
This is something you have done?
Want to do? With a date? With an sp?

If a girl you take on first date likes all this grand gesture…RUN. SHE A FUCKING PSYCHO
if this is your dream date with an sp. of course she will like it. She being paid to NOT fuck you.

Not a good idea to do what LeDodo suggests on a first date with a civie girl. Doing something in such grand gesture she is always going to expect it. Which you are setting yourself up for failure. Well that is about civilian dating/relationships. Maybe on the fifth and sixth date if you both have not ghosted each other already.

This is about the hobby. Well if one has the funds to pull something like this off more power to you. Yet wouldn’t want to pull something like this on the first time you meet an SP either. Most definitely on the second encounter if you enjoyed her company on the first. Such grand “dates” with an SP may lift some of her restrictions (i.e. CBJ to swallow) compared to you just see her for just sex. I have personally never done anything over four hours with an SP but know people who did and they don’t regret it. This is also getting into quasi-relationship zone. This is something a hobbyist is searching for if that is what he is seeking. LeDodo’s ideas are much better than taking an SP to Vegas then blowing all her money at the blackjack table then asking you for that money that she lost lol. This has happened a few times. Once you thought she was a 10 quickly becomes a -10 with security and police involved lol.

Well in retrospect this hobby fits and will satisfy what you are looking for. There is no right and wrong. If you have the resources and want to pull this off? Your money. your time. Your happiness.

 

[curly]

Not a good idea to do what LeDodo suggests on a first date with a civie girl. Doing something in such grand gesture she is always going to expect it. Which you are setting yourself up for failure. Well that is about civilian dating/relationships. Maybe on the fifth and sixth date if you both have not ghosted each other already.

This is about the hobby. Well if one has the funds to pull something like this off more power to you. Yet wouldn’t want to pull something like this on the first time you meet an SP either. Most definitely on the second encounter if you enjoyed her company on the first. Such grand “dates” with an SP may lift some of her restrictions (i.e. CBJ to swallow) compared to you just see her for just sex. I have personally never done anything over four hours with an SP but know people who did and they don’t regret it. This is also getting into quasi-relationship zone. This is something a hobbyist is searching for if that is what he is seeking. LeDodo’s ideas are much better than taking an SP to Vegas then blowing all her money at the blackjack table then asking you for that money that she lost lol. This has happened a few times. Once you thought she was a 10 quickly becomes a -10 with security and police involved lol.

Well in retrospect this hobby fits and will satisfy what you are looking for. There is no right and wrong. If you have the resources and want to pull this off? Your money. your time. Your happiness.

On course start with coffee or drinks as something non threatening she can walk away from at any point if she finds you really creepy. (and don't make her wanna...). Just be sociale to start with.

But I disagree about setting the bar too high if you want to have success. Thinking you'll have to do it every time is really lazy... of course you will! Be a man and lead! It will be fun for both of you, and if you make her feel emotions, you'll be rewarded. You have good ideas @LeDodo. Be ambitious!

Girls in this forum, if you think I'm not out to lunch, help me here...

 

[Rebaynia]

On course start with coffee or drinks as something non threatening she can walk away from at any point if she finds you really creepy. (and don't make her wanna...). Just be sociale to start with.

But I disagree about setting the bar too high if you want to have success. Thinking you'll have to do it every time is really lazy... of course you will! Be a man and lead! It will be fun for both of you, and if you make her feel emotions, you'll be rewarded. You have good ideas @LeDodo. Be ambitious!

Girls in this forum, if you think I'm not out to lunch, help me here...

It is about doing something you want to do yourself, and having someone else along for the expierience.

Even a civi date shouldn't be based on just trying to impress someone else, but going out to do something you would like to do and that they would enjoy too.

Rather then going to a show you heard about alone, why not take company who will enjoy it with you. It is what I would think dates are.

 

[Rebaynia]

Comes back to my comment
Of course an SP would love this. She is being paid NOT to fuck

That expresses the grand total of what you think of the ladies you see.

We are human beings, not emotionless sex dolls that just jump from 1 bed to another. There are some who provide more than just a release. But if that is all you treat them as, you will never know just how amazing the person is you just met.

Few have an actual menu to specify price per service, most of us charge for time spent with us, reguardless of if we f*ck or not. Some haveing a social rate which is directly a no f*ck price, until they reach the bedroom where a higher price takes effect.

I've had 1 gentleman who just liked having the company of a woman he respected/appreciated while he went threw his divorce. There was no sex, and our visits were akin to date night at home, several hours at a time.

When I offer domination, that can cost more as it is an extra, for my time, and many of those don't result in sex either.

I get paid extra, to strap someone down on a bed and hurt him for 1+ hrs. And not even have to get naked. And your after this guy about taking her out on a date?

 

[EastWind]

I will be the first to admit this forum isn't the right place to talk about dinner dates

Totally agree on this one.

 

[Rebaynia]

@LeDodo I'm hopeing you have another amazing date to report to get your beautiful thread back on track.

 

[Flyingby]

That expresses the grand total of what you think of the ladies you see.

We are human beings, not emotionless sex dolls that just jump from 1 bed to another. There are some who provide more than just a release. But if that is all you treat them as, you will never know just how amazing the person is you just met.

Few have an actual menu to specify price per service, most of us charge for time spent with us, reguardless of if we f*ck or not. Some haveing a social rate which is directly a no f*ck price, until they reach the bedroom where a higher price takes effect.

I've had 1 gentleman who just liked having the company of a woman he respected/appreciated while he went threw his divorce. There was no sex, and our visits were akin to date night at home, several hours at a time.

When I offer domination, that can cost more as it is an extra, for my time, and many of those don't result in sex either.

I get paid extra, to strap someone down on a bed and hurt him for 1+ hrs. And not even have to get naked. And your after this guy about taking her out on a date?

Nope
Nuh-hu
Not gonna argue with you

Nowhere did I say i see sp only as sex dolls and not human beings
Having a date with an sp is a beautifull moment. I have brought sushi to an sp. i have had sp bring me sushi. Their time was paid while I consumed it.
What I am saying is which girl would not like being paid to do other NON sexual activities. Of course any lady would like it.

Domination is a sexual activity.

This whole post from @LeDodo screams: I have fallen in love with my sp

 

[LeDodo]

@LeDodo I'm hopeing you have another amazing date to report to get your beautiful thread back on track.

Honestly I am not sure

I have the feeling that it is kind of steering of feeling of resentment and almost jealousy.

I am not here to brag or anything but I do enjoy sharing wonderful experiences. To the topic of the reviews I do not enjoy much doing it because of it being to visual. Hence my preference for "experience" sharing. I believe that in this forum lot of members read and do not participate in whatever section of it.

On one experience (The William Gray one) I don't understand why the topic of money is brought to the table and insist that it is not for everyone. In transparency I know how much it costs because I paid for it. But I am not here to show you the bill and this will be inappropriate. However I insist that this kind of dinner date (social+intimacy) is completely achievable. It's just maybe it will cost you to save on some dates to get that.

Again I didn't partake in these experiences to brag. As @EastWind mentions it's not something to do at the first date. I did it after many dates and for someone I truly appreciate and deserves such treatment. Having said that I also enjoy pure intimacy moments. The companionship provided here has quite a lattitude and this is what I was looking for when proposing it.

This is about the hobby. Well if one has the funds to pull something like this off more power to you. Yet wouldn’t want to pull something like this on the first time you meet an SP either. Most definitely on the second encounter if you enjoyed her company on the first. Such grand “dates” with an SP may lift some of her restrictions (i.e. CBJ to swallow) compared to you just see her for just sex. I have personally never done anything over four hours with an SP but know people who did and they don’t regret it. This is also getting into quasi-relationship zone. This is something a hobbyist is searching for if that is what he is seeking. LeDodo’s ideas are much better than taking an SP to Vegas then blowing all her money at the blackjack table then asking you for that money that she lost lol. This has happened a few times. Once you thought she was a 10 quickly becomes a -10 with security and police involved lol.

Well in retrospect this hobby fits and will satisfy what you are looking for. There is no right and wrong. If you have the resources and want to pull this off? Your money. your time. Your happiness.

To the point regarding the paid no sex it's a wild assumption especially not know what happened at that time.

The goal of the activity and visit, isn't just the 1 SOG. It's the beautiful wonder and expierience of sharing it with another person who will appreciate it.

The fact that you want to reduce an entire fulfilling expierience, into a grand total price and 1 SOG, is the very reason you won't accept either the number, or the value that the whole expierience provided for that value beyond the SOG.

This! That's why I like your mindset and you said it beautifully!
The industry is rich enough to provide a wide variety of services. And I don't think that anyone is entitled to say what is right or wrong. And even less that someone has so less review and in this case we are going to the territory of shilling accusations.
The industry is rich in terms of budget, services provided, kinks, number of participants, etc.

And I repeat: there is no good or wrong experience!
Those who shame what others do, or can financially achieve (as they like to focus on money), or like because it's different from what they do should just focus on themselves and the activity they partake

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Honestly if this brings comments like "this girl is a psycho" and further harassment of SP who get taken on social dates I wish this topic wasn't discussed here because at this point it's clear that this was about me.. I posted pictures of the date yesterday and there was no arrangement between us for it to be shared here because I would have advised against it. Not that I'm upset because I know the intentions were good and of course I appreciated the date, but I knew this would make people angry the second I heard there was a comment here.

Sometimes I get taken on fancy dates like this by clients who just want to have these experiences with some company. What am I supposed to do, say no? If you were at my place you would all say yes to these dates as well. Yes I appreciate fancy dates but I still have other dates as well that happen completely indoors. And it's none of anyone's business how many SOG or if "the client has fallen in love with the SP". When I get booked for dates like these it was the client's choice...

I am really tired of this debate and I fear further harassment honestly, it's been months since this subject of longer dates and social dates is extensively discussed here and nothing anyone says here will change anything to the fact that some clients book hours and some book longer dates depending on what they want or need. It really sucks having someone point this thread to me and see that I'm being called a psycho and "'happy to be paid to do nothing"..

I appreciate all my clients and you have to understand that there are sometimes glamorous aspects to being an escort.. meanwhile there are other aspects that are far less glamorous we all know about.

What really bothers me is this idea that women, SP or not, are like toddlers or animals that you have to train by not spoiling them too much or else "they will become lazy or expect princess treatment all the time". It's extremely misogynistic and a cliché.. maybe it's true for some people, who knows, but not me. I put a lot of energy and heart into what I do not matter what kind of booking I have and it's true that I don't want to be feeling like I'm merely a body to be used until the time is up.

I had a 2 hour booking today that was fantastic, no social time was involved, no gifts and no tip. We had a conversation about film, art and literature and yes sex was involved. I don't know why I have to prove myself...

There are people here who have messaged me to say they miss my presence on the board.. well this is why I don't want to participate anymore.

By the way in my personal life I take friends on dates and I spoil my loved ones without expecting anything in return. Some people need the feeling of a "real date" and prefer it... This concept in the industry is not new. And honestly if a man in my civ life offered a really fancy date the first time we meet with grand gestures I would decline. It's a red flag. It's different with clients because the expectations and boundaries are clear.

The way I understand it is that for some of you even if you spend money on a civ woman it's a way to ensure she will "have sex with you for free" which is so weird.... You are basically still viewing it as paying her for sex in another way and you don't think someone deserves your generosity otherwise. It's sad really. Last time I was dating someone in my civ life there was not a transitional aspect like this.. this is my job. I've even believe it or not taken both men and women on expensive dates without expecting sex.

Please I beg you instead of being a hater like this go take a walk outside and take care of yourself, read a book, idk.... This is extremely distressing and I'm hearing there are accusations of my client shilling for me which is honestly wild since he discovered me on this forum.

 

[Enjoying life]

Honestly if this brings comments like "this girl is a psycho" and further harassment of SP who get taken on social dates I wish this topic wasn't discussed here because at this point it's clear that this was about me.. I posted pictures of the date yesterday and there was no arrangement between us for it to be shared here because I would have advised against it. Not that I'm upset because I know the intentions were good and of course I appreciated the date, but I knew this would make people angry the second I heard there was a comment here.

Sometimes I get taken on fancy dates like this by clients who just want to have these experiences with some company. What am I supposed to do, say no? If you were at my place you would all say yes to these dates as well. Yes I appreciate fancy dates but I still have other dates as well that happen completely indoors. And it's none of anyone's business how many SOG or if "the client has fallen in love with the SP". When I get booked for dates like these it was the client's choice...

I am really tired of this debate and I fear further harassment honestly, it's been months since this subject of longer dates and social dates is extensively discussed here and nothing anyone says here will change anything to the fact that some clients book hours and some book longer dates depending on what they want or need. It really sucks having someone point this thread to me and see that I'm being called a psycho and "'happy to be paid to do nothing"..

I appreciate all my clients and you have to understand that there are sometimes glamorous aspects to being an escort.. meanwhile there are other aspects that are far less glamorous we all know about.

What really bothers me is this idea that women, SP or not, are like toddlers or animals that you have to train by not spoiling them too much or else "they will become lazy or expect princess treatment all the time". It's extremely misogynistic and a cliché.. maybe it's true for some people, who knows, but not me. I put a lot of energy and heart into what I do not matter what kind of booking I have and it's true that I don't want to be feeling like I'm merely a body to be used until the time is up.

I had a 2 hour booking today that was fantastic, no social time was involved, no gifts and no tip. We had a conversation about film, art and literature and yes sex was involved. I don't know why I have to prove myself...

There are people here who have messaged me to say they miss my presence on the board.. well this is why I don't want to participate anymore.

By the way in my personal life I take friends on dates and I spoil my loved ones without expecting anything in return. Some people need the feeling of a "real date" and prefer it... This concept in the industry is not new. And honestly if a man in my civ life offered a really fancy date the first time we meet with grand gestures I would decline. It's a red flag.

The way I understand it is that for some of you even if you spend money on a civ woman it's a way to ensure she will "have sex with you for free" which is so weird.... You are basically still viewing it as paying her for sex in another way and you don't think someone deserves your generosity otherwise. It's sad really. Last time I was dating someone in my civ life there was not a transitional aspect like this.. this is my job. I've even believe it or not taken both men and women on expensive dates without expecting sex.

Please I beg you instead of being a hater like this go take a walk outside and take care of yourself, read a book, idk.... This is extremely distressing and I'm hearing there are accusations of my client shilling for me which is honestly wild since he discovered me on this forum.

If the client wants social time it’s fine or if they want intimacy fine as well as you are just accommodating and being flexible which is great!

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Also no matter how much money a client has paid and no matter how fancy the whole thing i, the date could still be horrible. This date was lovely but that's not always the case. I'm gonna spare you anecdotes. I've also had purely social bookings, with no sex, that were excruciating.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

If the client wants social time it’s fine or if they want intimacy fine as well as you are just accommodating and being flexible which is great!

If a client doesn't want to book long dates or social time then he can just not do that and chill out lol it's not like SP will refuse to see him. I even have regular clients I only see for one or two hours every time and I like them just as much.

Go play outside!!! Watch a movie... Go volunteering. I don't know why so angry lol upon seeing this was posted I saw that one or two of my "haters" here (mind you... men I have never seen or spoken to in my entire life) went to check out my profile... Guys, leave me alone lol. You do you, I'll mind my own business and go back to not commenting here.

 

[Enjoying life]

If a client doesn't want to book long dates or social time then he can just not do that and chill out lol it's not like SP will refuse to see him. I even have regular clients I only see for one or two hours every time and I like them just as much.

Go play outside!!! Watch a movie... Go volunteering. I don't know why so angry lol upon seeing this was posted I saw that one or two of my "haters" here (mind you... men I have never seen or spoken to in my entire life) went to check out my profile... Guys, leave me alone lol. You do you, I'll mind my own business and go back to not commenting here.

Just be a gentleman that’s all! lol

 

[Enjoying life]

Just be a gentleman that’s all! lol

Luna made my day! Thank you beautiful!