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Merlot and Kaydee
Let me correct your misconceptions;
1) I never said I was disgusted by male on female greek, I said that it was my 3rd preference behind vaginal and oral. Quite a difference and one wonders how you jumped to that misconception so readily.
2) the suggestion that one should experience this to appreciate what a woman might be experiencing is simply a matter of educating oneself on the proper stretching of the anal ring so you do not cause pain to your partner. That is all no more complicated than that.
3) I'm somewhat disappointed by the stereotypical homophobic response concerning strap-ons and the stimulation of the male g-spot. To suggest that I came up with this concept is quite laugable considering the abundance of information available on the subject. I was expecting a more open minded consideration of the point. My suggestion is to confer with any number of women who offer this serice so next time you will have an informed opinion instead of shooting from the hip. I have tried it once and while it is not something I need to experience very often it was in fact a different sensation. If you are too homophobic to try it or too insecure in your masculinity at least opt for a prostate massage once in your life. It's wierd but oddly intense.
The comment about unresolved issues was insulting and uncalled for and not in the spirit of this board. The over-the-top response suggests that any unresolved issues may in fact be squarely on the other foot.
Again I'm a bit disappointed with the insult on a subject you clearly haven't tried and don't understand
Let me correct your misconceptions;
1) I never said I was disgusted by male on female greek, I said that it was my 3rd preference behind vaginal and oral. Quite a difference and one wonders how you jumped to that misconception so readily.
2) the suggestion that one should experience this to appreciate what a woman might be experiencing is simply a matter of educating oneself on the proper stretching of the anal ring so you do not cause pain to your partner. That is all no more complicated than that.
3) I'm somewhat disappointed by the stereotypical homophobic response concerning strap-ons and the stimulation of the male g-spot. To suggest that I came up with this concept is quite laugable considering the abundance of information available on the subject. I was expecting a more open minded consideration of the point. My suggestion is to confer with any number of women who offer this serice so next time you will have an informed opinion instead of shooting from the hip. I have tried it once and while it is not something I need to experience very often it was in fact a different sensation. If you are too homophobic to try it or too insecure in your masculinity at least opt for a prostate massage once in your life. It's wierd but oddly intense.
The comment about unresolved issues was insulting and uncalled for and not in the spirit of this board. The over-the-top response suggests that any unresolved issues may in fact be squarely on the other foot.
Again I'm a bit disappointed with the insult on a subject you clearly haven't tried and don't understand
Hello all
Okay,
Quite possibly. However, no one can see any members expression or hear the sarcasm in a voice through a computer to know that. Words in text stand for themselves. If there is no other indicator then one leaves himself or herself open to a response for what has been written. In fact there is no difference in tone between what Hungry and Possum Trot wrote and the general sentiments are practically identical. As written, they are both very ugly posts. But considering Hungry's last two lines, which I did not quote, I am dropping all references to him.
Hmmm,
I have edited my previous post to be more accurately related to your original implied meaning.
Why is it homophobic to have no desire, interest, or to feel uncomfortable about the prospect of putting anything in your ass? It's a matter of preference. Your suggestions in both posts are just too "weird" in my view. If this is what anyone else prefers it's none of my business. But to suggest that a man performing anal on himself or having a woman do it is in any way connected to a man having greek on a woman is nonsense in my view. Your opinion is just too foreign to me, and suggesting that having no desire for this is homophobic is ridiculous.
Frankly PT, the suggestion that any guy should allow an escort to "do him" with a strapon, or use some anal sex tool, to allegedly be sympatico with how she feels when receiving greek from a man sounds like something that may be a very thin rationalization to justify ambivalent feelings about enjoying being a receiver. If it's not a rationalization then it's just an individual opinion and choice you have made that can never be justified or imposed as a obligation for others.
pfffsssst,
Merlot
Merlot, I believe hungry101 is joking...........that's how I took it. He was just exagerating what I wrote.
As far as your response to PT, I agree fully.
Okay,
Quite possibly. However, no one can see any members expression or hear the sarcasm in a voice through a computer to know that. Words in text stand for themselves. If there is no other indicator then one leaves himself or herself open to a response for what has been written. In fact there is no difference in tone between what Hungry and Possum Trot wrote and the general sentiments are practically identical. As written, they are both very ugly posts. But considering Hungry's last two lines, which I did not quote, I am dropping all references to him.
Merlot and Kaydee
Let me correct your misconceptions;
1) I never said I was disgusted by male on female greek, I said that it was my 3rd preference behind vaginal and oral. Quite a difference and one wonders how you jumped to that misconception so readily.
2) the suggestion that one should experience this to appreciate what a woman might be experiencing is simply a matter of educating oneself on the proper stretching of the anal ring so you do not cause pain to your partner. That is all no more complicated than that.
3) I'm somewhat disappointed by the stereotypical homophobic response concerning strap-ons and the stimulation of the male g-spot. To suggest that I came up with this concept is quite laugable considering the abundance of information available on the subject. I was expecting a more open minded consideration of the point. My suggestion is to confer with any number of women who offer this serice so next time you will have an informed opinion instead of shooting from the hip. I have tried it once and while it is not something I need to experience very often it was in fact a different sensation. If you are too homophobic to try it or too insecure in your masculinity at least opt for a prostate massage once in your life. It's wierd but oddly intense.
The comment about unresolved issues was insulting and uncalled for and not in the spirit of this board. The over-the-top response suggests that any unresolved issues may in fact be squarely on the other foot.
Again I'm a bit disappointed with the insult on a subject you clearly haven't tried and don't understand
Hmmm,
I have edited my previous post to be more accurately related to your original implied meaning.
Why is it homophobic to have no desire, interest, or to feel uncomfortable about the prospect of putting anything in your ass? It's a matter of preference. Your suggestions in both posts are just too "weird" in my view. If this is what anyone else prefers it's none of my business. But to suggest that a man performing anal on himself or having a woman do it is in any way connected to a man having greek on a woman is nonsense in my view. Your opinion is just too foreign to me, and suggesting that having no desire for this is homophobic is ridiculous.
Frankly PT, the suggestion that any guy should allow an escort to "do him" with a strapon, or use some anal sex tool, to allegedly be sympatico with how she feels when receiving greek from a man sounds like something that may be a very thin rationalization to justify ambivalent feelings about enjoying being a receiver. If it's not a rationalization then it's just an individual opinion and choice you have made that can never be justified or imposed as a obligation for others.
pfffsssst,
Merlot
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2) the suggestion that one should experience this to appreciate what a woman might be experiencing is simply a matter of educating oneself on the proper stretching of the anal ring so you do not cause pain to your partner. That is all no more complicated than that.
You just don't get it, do you? Should I deep throat a guy and have him cum down my throat too if that is what I am looking to get from a SP? Why do I need to educate myself about what the partner is feeling? If I have a willing partner, then that's all that I need. Key word there is "willing".
If I am not preparing her correctly, I would hope she would tell me. I would also hope that she gets some enjoyment out of it since she is offering it. I certainly have no desire to experience it myself, just like I have no desire to blow a guy, just so I can "educate" myself. I am not gay, nor do I have anything against people who are gay. The fact that I have no desire to subject myself to such acts just so I can "educate" myself about what a woman experiences has absolutely no relation to whether one is a homophobe or not.
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No I think Damoiselle is correct, you should stick the biggest dildo up your ass that you can find to mentally and physically prepare to have anal with an escort. Better yet, go to the nearest gay bar and buy someone a drink. when he asks you if your gay just tell him "No, but I will have anal sex with an escort later on tonight and I am trying to prepare for it."
While your at it blow him if you are going to recieve oral as well.
This is sound advice!
Oh, and refrain from eating mexican or chili or anything with tabasco prior to this experience.
Yes Merlot, Kaydee is correct. My comment was an attempt at humor. I would no more prepare to have anal sex with an escort by shoving something up my ass as I would prepare for receiving deep throat by swallowing a long vegetable. For the latter, I may shave my pubic hair and clean Mr. Bodini up very well and apply lotion...but I digress...Preparing for battle in the Marines we didn't actually shoot one another?
Maybe it enough to know to go real slow and use a lube etc?
KF should give it a try if he is curious. I just found it not very much different than vaginal sex. In fact I could not tell the difference. That's me. That's all I'm saying.
Hello all
Why is it homophobic to have no desire, interest, or to feel uncomfortable about the prospect of putting anything in your ass? It's a matter of preference. Your suggestions in both posts are just too "weird" in my view. If this is what anyone else prefers it's none of my business. But to suggest that a man performing anal on himself or having a woman do it is in any way connected to a man having greek on a woman is nonsense in my view. Your opinion is just too foreign to me, and suggesting that having no desire for this is homophobic is ridiculous.
Saying your reaction was homophobic was one of playing the odds about the possible motivation of your response. Seemed like an unreasonable response. I appreciate that it is a normal occurence on the boards for people to express strong opinions on something they know nothing about or haven't tried but to be so black and white and insulting certainly implied deeper seeded issues.
I never meant to suggest it was an obligation and I don't believe I did. It was however a suggestion for those that wanted to understand the feeling. A completion of the knowledge data base on the subject. It certainly is completely foreign to any other sensation or activity that we men will likely experience. You have a point that, in fact, it may be of little value when doing sp's that regularly engage in anal and are easily and routinely stretched. If, however, one wants to have anal with inexperienced civies the knowledge is quite useful I have found. I now understand their apprehension and that initial feeling. I can also say to them with certainty that with proper preparation it can be done with a minimum of initial discomfort.Frankly PT, the suggestion that any guy should allow an escort to "do him" with a strapon, or use some anal sex tool, to allegedly be sympatico with how she feels when receiving greek from a man sounds like something that may be a very thin rationalization to justify ambivalent feelings about enjoying being a receiver. If it's not a rationalization then it's just an individual opinion and choice you have made that can never be justified or imposed as a obligation for others.
pfffsssst,
Merlot
Stimulation of the prostate is well documented so it seemed like an opportune time to kill two birds with one stone so to speak. The strap-on thing I did once about a year ago and it didn't make my top ten list of things to repeat but in the context of a "bucket list" it seemed quite rationale , even in retrospect. Digital prostate massage, on the other hand, is something that I find can give you a mind-blowing orgasm particulary combined with a BJ. I have repeated this many times. It is also particularly good for those times where you find it difficult to finish, so to speak.
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Saying your reaction was homophobic was one of playing the odds about the possible motivation of your response. Seemed like an unreasonable response. I appreciate that it is a normal occurence on the boards for people to express strong opinions on something they know nothing about or haven't tried but to be so black and white and insulting certainly implied deeper seeded issues.
I never meant to suggest it was an obligation and I don't believe I did. It was however a suggestion for those that wanted to understand the feeling. A completion of the knowledge data base on the subject. It certainly is completely foreign to any other sensation or activity that we men will likely experience. You have a point that, in fact, it may be of little value when doing sp's that regularly engage in anal and are easily and routinely stretched. If, however, one wants to have anal with inexperienced civies the knowledge is quite useful I have found. I now understand their apprehension and that initial feeling. I can also say to them with certainty that with proper preparation it can be done with a minimum of initial discomfort.
Stimulation of the prostate is well documented so it seemed like an opportune time to kill two birds with one stone so to speak. The strap-on thing I did once about a year ago and it didn't make my top ten list of things to repeat but in the context of a "bucket list" it seemed quite rationale , even in retrospect. Digital prostate massage, on the other hand, is something that I find can give you a mind-blowing orgasm particulary combined with a BJ. I have repeated this many times. It is also particularly good for those times where you find it difficult to finish, so to speak.
Hello Possum Trot,
I have a strong feeling I know exactly who your experience was with since we know one very well known escort we have met in common, who also hinted of doing the same thing with me by saying she has done this and enjoyed it with other men. She is not the only escort to mention this option when I ask, what do you enjoy? While some other options mentioned were definitely tantalizing, my response to any strapon offer to me was "I would definitely never be interested in that"...as politely as I could say it.
It's not anyone's place to inject their judgment onto what two or more consenting adults willingly enjoy together. If it was brought up openly for discussion, in some aspect, then there would be an invitation for opinions if one was so inclined. But, if anyone suggested any negative opinion automatically amounts to a phobia, then it is more likely they have the problem. Just because someone has "black and white" views on a prospective situation without precisely experiencing it does not make those views a phobia. Everyone has learned preferences, tastes, and desires, as well as strong instinctive natural impulses creating very definite views and feelings about most prospective situations, and all of that is as valid in having an opinion and an understanding of an experience as actually having the experience. For example, if instinct tells one it's repulsive to him or her to be sodomized there is no need to prove it by having the experience, and no need to justify instincts to anyone else. It's a preference, not a phobia.
Your suggestion that one should experience the other side of certain specific "feelings" might be considered commendable for it's willingness to share physical empathy, but to suggest a matching physical experience is necessary to understand how a sex partner or how anyone feels in a given situation is debatable. It underestimates the impact and value of instinct and the capacity for cognitive empathy through related similar experiences. Obviously physical experience provides fuller understanding, but it's not necessary for real general understanding. If one has experienced a feeling such as satisfaction or pain in other forms, there is no need to experience every possibility to appreciate what each specific experience would or might be like. No one needs to complete the "knowledge data base on the subject" to appreciate it for what it's like, especially when it's instinctively undesirable or repulsive.
I think it should be a requirement for every guy that wants greek to get the strap-on treatment first to get some idea of what she is feeling and how important prep is.
Yes, I overreacted yesterday. To imply it was about a phobia or unresolved inner issues was over the top and insulting. I did some of the latter too, then retracted for that error. But, this thread was intended to simply ask: "is Greek something that a Hobbyist needs to experience at least once in his life". Yet, it was insinuated that those clients who have greek with a woman might be or are ignorant of the pain, indifferent about it, or, by loose extension in some way even enjoy inflicting it. I found the implication of any of these possibilities very offensive. And while the concept that a sex partner should have the same experience to share physical empathy is philosophically commendable, the idea by you that: "it should be a requirement(ie..obligation) for every guy that wants greek to get the strap-on treatment first to get some idea of what she is feeling", implying regardless of whether it's repulsive or not, is an unjustifiable imposition. Perhaps this "requirement" was not your real intention, but it was very pointed as written.
THE KEY POINT: this thread is about willing partners, partners in pleasure, NOT pain which has been the implication made by more than one suggestion in this thread. No one interested in greek with a woman here ever suggested or implied there was any desire to inflict discomfort or pain, and implying that there ever was is out of bounds. Naturally anyone seeking greek knows to be sensitive and careful. But, if any escort is offering greek when it is painful to her that is her, in my view, stupid choice; and anyone's view that a client should be "required" to also experience her discomfort or pain to empathize with what is essentially a very poor choice is...nonsense...IMHO!
Cheers,
Merlot
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Merlot and Kaydee
2) the suggestion that one should experience this to appreciate what a woman might be experiencing is simply a matter of educating oneself on the proper stretching of the anal ring so you do not cause pain to your partner. That is all no more complicated than that.
3) I'm somewhat disappointed by the stereotypical homophobic response concerning strap-ons and the stimulation of the male g-spot.
Hey Possum!
I'm sorry to say, but I read your post pretty much along the lines of Merlot and Kaydee!
I am somewhat deeply disturbed that quite a few posters seem to say that in order to "really appreciate" what one is asking for, one should do it. I agree, some guys are pretty rude and inconsiderate and will simply push their dicks into the girl's A-hole... that is plain disgusting. It is the same as penetrating vaginally without haveing the girl properly lube'd up, either naturally or with added products.
Nontheless, I think a lot of us pointed out that proper preparation was essential -- and I know KF understood the message quite well from his posts. I think our message was clear and only a blond fool cannot understand it ( I am not pointing at you, but at people who would not prepare!).
I really don't think one has to try something on yourself in order to be able to/ to be allowed to/ to have the right to / to be sensitive enough / etc do anything. My GFs/ sex partners with whom I really enjoyed greek never thought I should receive it! And the ones with whom it did not go well, I simply stopped, apologized for the discomfort and we did something else to have fun.
Oh and one last thing: while it is true some people really like greek, others simply find it so-so or not fun. To each his/ her own and I totally respect that. Actually, I would also say that the same act can be awesome with one person and simply bland with another. Chemistry in sex is sooooooo important!
Now, I know you answered many of these points in your further postings, and I appreciate this. I nonetheless wanted to answer these above points in a non confrontational manner (hopefully) because as I said, I find a lot of people have very visceral (no pun intended) reactions to the greek topic!!
Hormone out
Girls greeking each other with toys, whew, breathtaking. But, I digress.
Being an analphile and klismaphile from a young age a few observations were bound to arise.
Greek can be very arousing due to tightness and taboo, a very hot visual too. You are after all buried balls deep in a girl's most private place.
Vag's seem almost designed to make the uh cum come. They are somewhat more "textured' due to vaginal ruggae. Nice to slam your balls up against hot, slick, smooth, wet, squishy girl bits too.
A vag simply has "ripples" a bumhole is smooth inside. I love Greek but cum faster from vag.
My SP recommendations:
Choose a well reviewed Greek provider. Anything less could be much less experienced SP and simply a grin and bear it for the extra $ scenario.
Day prior bookings and a day-of confirmation texts have always resulted in a clean, fresh, delicious experience.
Talk, don't just do. You're docking the module here, not slamming The Hindenberg into New Jersey. Learn how to prep and open up a bum to get it ready.
Bring a fresh unopened bottle of condom safe, "iso-osmotic" lube. Epithelial cells, osmotic pressure, burning/stinging...'nuff said. Dont think light oil on the cylinder walls. Think oil cooled milling machine tool bit. Great end of session when an SP giggles "wow I'm covered in lube from head to toe" and she still has a happy, eager bum.
Hoping this blather may be of some value.
(My first post here, I think. Usually more active on TERB under another name)
Being an analphile and klismaphile from a young age a few observations were bound to arise.
Greek can be very arousing due to tightness and taboo, a very hot visual too. You are after all buried balls deep in a girl's most private place.
Vag's seem almost designed to make the uh cum come. They are somewhat more "textured' due to vaginal ruggae. Nice to slam your balls up against hot, slick, smooth, wet, squishy girl bits too.
A vag simply has "ripples" a bumhole is smooth inside. I love Greek but cum faster from vag.
My SP recommendations:
Choose a well reviewed Greek provider. Anything less could be much less experienced SP and simply a grin and bear it for the extra $ scenario.
Day prior bookings and a day-of confirmation texts have always resulted in a clean, fresh, delicious experience.
Talk, don't just do. You're docking the module here, not slamming The Hindenberg into New Jersey. Learn how to prep and open up a bum to get it ready.
Bring a fresh unopened bottle of condom safe, "iso-osmotic" lube. Epithelial cells, osmotic pressure, burning/stinging...'nuff said. Dont think light oil on the cylinder walls. Think oil cooled milling machine tool bit. Great end of session when an SP giggles "wow I'm covered in lube from head to toe" and she still has a happy, eager bum.
Hoping this blather may be of some value.
(My first post here, I think. Usually more active on TERB under another name)
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