SISEA - Another Government Prohibition Bill

[CLOUD 500]

I am surprised no one brought it up. It is floating all over Twitter by SWs. Here is another example of government over reach. They keep on trying to play the role of Grandma thinking they know what is best and to protect us by restricting us and paternalism the way mommy does to her kids. A few Senators want to push for SIESTA - Stop Internet Sexual Exploitation Act

Why the Stop Internet Sexual Exploitation Act could be the end of internet porn

Stop Internet Sexual Exploitation Act aimed at policing child and revenge porn could doom internet porn altogether.

www.dailydot.com

New internet sex bill could hurt sex workers the most

The Stop Internet Sexual Exploitation Act might harm the very people it aims to protect.

www.inputmag.com

Well I am not going to sum it all up... You can read the links I provided all details are in it. In short if this bill is passed all internet porn is going to disappear including OnlyFans. What is more is all those SWs advertising on Twitter or other sites will probably be deplatformed and disappear. America has got this war against prostitution. This is a direct retaliation against SWs and NSFW content creators and their ability to earn a living independently. SISEA is a direct attempt to end all sex work and to ban SWs and NSFW content creators and artitst from ever existing. Weird country. So glad I live in Canada.

 

[neverbored]

It was touched in another thread https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/mastercard-investigating-pornhub-allegations.197664/

Its pretty crazy, and the worst part, I was reading another forum where a bunch of sex workers and cam models were saying how that was a good thing for them as it was preventing their content from being leaked and illegally used... etc.
Until someone pointed out the real impacts... then they realized that this meant no more advertising and for many no more revenues .. then it went silent.

That bill is a trojan horse for censorship crusading fanatics.

 

[RobertNYC]

I’ll start a separate thread on this one but is anyone also following the bill in NY State by Sen Krueger to bring the Nordic model to the Empire State?

Sex workers don’t want it, clients don’t want it, agencies certainly don’t want it...so who wants it? A bunch of crooked politicians who want their names in the media to maintain personal power and influence, and the Gambino crime family. I’m hoping NJ is smart enough not to open this Pandora’s box.

 

[RobertNYC]

It will likely fail

Why Not All Sex Workers Are in Favor of New York's New "Decriminalization" Bill

New York's "equality model" sounds awfully similar to the controversial Nordic model.

www.insidehook.com

But if it doesn’t, there is a long history, Canada being thd best example, but Illinois being a forgotten one, where changes to laws enhancing penalties against purchasers of sex while decreasing (or eliminating) penalties against sellers are largely ignored by law enforcement.

it is great to see New York sex workers oppose this bill. They realize it will mess up the good screening system that now exists in the United States, at least that is what one NY escort I follow on Twitter believes.

I don’t know, Patron. You’re talking about a state that does not make smart decisions, and where clueless politicians will jump on bandwagons with reckless disregard for the safety of constituents.

The bill sounds good - it protects vulnerable prostitutes forced into the trade from cruel and violent John’s, and the law will certainly put an end to human trafficking across the state. These escorts driving up 5th avenue in BMW’s on their way to their Upper East Side condos need protected from guys like us. The media will go along with it, and any male politician voting against it will be scorned. We live in crazy times. I’m not as optimistic as you. Do you really think the state legislature really cares what sex workers have to say when they get to milk this bill in media and re-election ads?

It would take NYC Police to weigh in to stop passage, and they’re frustrated and out of juice. Would LE ignore the law? I don’t know., but the law being on the books should make one more fearful. It takes one sting operation to really get guys paranoid.

In this environment it is not politically correct for NYC LE to make major brothel busts and arrest sex workers. If you remove arresting sex workers from the equation - especially those who are undocumented - then you might be giving LE ammo to take a more aggressive stand against brothels and clients.

 

[RobertNYC]

I hope you’re right, Patron. While I’m not as optimistic as you, maybe this bill will die on the vine. Perhaps we’ll not hear much about it anymore.

However, I do think we might see LE harassment of agencies IF the law passes if for nothing more than to make a statement, particularly on Long Island or boroughs like Queens. And it’s the agency business in NYC that keeps most guys happy with the $300/hour offerings compared to the $800/hour independents. If agencies are more at risk, that would really put a damper on hobbying. We shall see...

 

[Red Lobster]

Denmark was one of the first countries to allow pornography in the early 70s., sexual assaults was cut in half in Denmark the first year the law was changed. Many other European countries followed the Danish example soon afterwards.

 

[RobertNYC]

Denmark was one of the first countries to allow pornography in the early 70s., sexual assaults was cut in half in Denmark the first year the law was changed. Many other European countries followed the Danish example soon afterwards.

But my point is that politics and culture are much different now. Politicians don’t care about safety or what is in the best interest of escorts or even society for that matter. It’s about what sounds good, makes news and fits the “rescuing the victim” narrative. Don’t expect logical solutions, especially in NY

 

[CLOUD 500]

Not even. We are witnessing the rise of prohibition much like what we had in the 1930s. The actual effect they got was the complete opposite to the intended effect. This is an example of a Nanny State. Government prohibiting in the name of protection, playing the role of Grandma. To be quiet frank for the majority of people sex work is very irrelevant. Only SWs and the clients care, for the rest it changes nothing for them. This will not stop prostitution nor will it stop porn. All of it will go underground and hidden. Crime and human trafficking will go sky high. Porn will all go on the dark web with lots of illegal content. I always said that prohibition never works but politicians answer to all is always prohibition. It is the easy way to manage socioeconomic issues. Fact is they are lazy and got no idea how to manage this. Policitians live in a utopia getting the big fat paycheck for not doing much work behind a desk in a fancy suit. All politicians are scum. Same idea for covid.

 

[CLOUD 500]

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This affects the US mostly. This is a bill for the US but a lot of porn is made in the US. Did you read what the bill says? Many sites will just stop hosting pornography. No one will want to get involved in it. As for review sites and other platforms that SWs advertise on, those sites will probably migrate to offshore places to evade being stopped. A lot of SWs especially American ones use Twitter to advertise and market themselves including many Canadian SWs and all of that would disappear. The SWs will be deplatformed.

 

[CLOUD 500]

It would at first glance be fantastic if Canada became a major hosting site for pornography and prostitution, and replaced the U.S.

But you would have to contend with c-36, which arose from many of the same issues that I described in my post. True Decriminalization was almost shoved down the throats of conservative Canadians and the legislature responded by passing a Nordic Model. Thank God it isn’t enforced, but it created a lot of damage and made Canadians head overseas for web hosting, also.

The Liberals are feminists they would have done the same thing. The Nordic model is a feminist one. Canada's approach is different there is prohibition here but it is a softer approach enforced the way feminists would. They go after those who buy sexual services of minors and go after pimps and human traffickers. I do agree with the approach. But Canada is very much against stripclubs there are so many laws and government rules that make it hostile to operate a stripclub and rezoning restrictions make it impossible to rebuild a stripclub or to get a new nudity permit. I suspect they will just shift it all to over seas countries where prostitution is decriminalized. Merb's servers are also overseas.

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
Lol Australia sucks. They are the king in police state type of rules. They got too many rules see how they locked every down as prisoners just over covid. This bill is similar to SISEA. We are also witnessing the rise of Chinese communist style censorship.