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even Fox is inching away from the Great Orange Satan... Drudge, WND to follow with Breitbart bringing up the rear...


All this has convinced me that the universe does indeed have a sense of humour... The Trump admin being undone by emails is truly delicious. It wouldn't be believable in a novel, but here we are...

Next up? The leaks about laundering Russian mob money into Trump businesses, and most likely, his campaign. I'm buying popcorn futures...
 

Kasey Jones

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Trump is happy to play golf, watch television, have the government pay for his extravagant lifestyle, get lots of attention and laugh at the angry, impotent people whom he intentionally offends. As an added bonus, no matter if a few people bycott his brand - he and his family still are earning far more. For example, Tiffany's copied crap now sells 10X as much as it did a year ago.

The Republicans will never impeach him as they can't risk losing Trump's supporters in congressional elections. Most importantly, they pay off their big business supporters by cutting education, medical care, food stamps, the minimum wage (in some states), allowing previously protected lands to be exploited, taking away women's rights, maintaining the flow into for-profit prisons with long, harsh sentences, making it harder for the poor and African Americans to vote, stuffing the Supremes with conservatives etc. They will use the savings on services for humans to buy more rdundant military hardware and reduce taxes for the rich. He makes the news with his tweets and nobody seems to notice how rapidly the government is changing.

He is their extraordinarily effective court jester. Nobody is going to fire him, not even if treason can be proved.

they will watch the polls... as soon as he becomes a risk to their re-election (see the magic 27%) they will dump him and pretend they never met the guy...
 

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Now we learn that there was a fifth person in that infamous Don Jr. meeting and that this person was a former Russian spy now living in the US. Junior's lawyer says that this fifth person had been described to him as being a friend of the Russian lawyer. It turns out that this individual is a former Russian military and counter-intelligence operative now doing lobbying work in the US.

This is likely only the tip of the iceberg and people are also wondering how candid Donald Trump Jr. has been with his own lawyer, who may be finding all this stuff out as new reports are coming out.

WH sources have stated anonymously that WH staff are working under a lot of duress right now and it's basically a siege-like atmosphere around the WH. Many are very careful about whatever they're saying around Jared Kushner and how they interact with him knowing full well he's currently under criminal investigation and whatever is being said at the moment may eventually one day come out and they may have to testify about it. Believe it or not, Jared Kushner's security clearance has yet to be revoked even though he's been caught several times omitting to include meetings he's had with several Russian individuals and that he's currently involved in a criminal investigation which may one day send him to prison for a long time.

And there you have old man Trump hitting on the French First Lady right in front of her husband with Melania standing next to her!!!

You can't make this up!!! What a fucking disaster this guy has been!!!
 

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they will watch the polls... as soon as he becomes a risk to their re-election (see the magic 27%) they will dump him and pretend they never met the guy...

People have been saying this for quite a while and nothing's changed. Trump's approval numbers are stuck in the 38-39% range and only 15-18% of Americans approve of the various healthcare bills proposed by Congress. Yet they're still determined to eradicate ACA a.k.a. 'Obamacare' although it's become quite popular with Americans over time and Congress (and Trump) want to replace it with something much, much worse! Sad!!!!!!
 

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Now we're learning that there were at least 8 people at that meeting and the name of the Russian-American lobbyist (who used to be a Russian spy and is suspected of still being one) is Rinat Akhmetshin. He confirmed the meeting and also indicated that the Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin had left a dossier behind for the Trump campaign people but he stated he didn't remember who picked it up.

We also learned that investigators found out about this particular meeting because Paul Manafort had indicated it on a form to register himself as foreign agent. Previously it was assumed that Jared Kushner had revised his form for security clearance since he's been doing so every time something compromising is leaked. Kushner and many in the Trump team seem to be suffering from a serious case of amnesia, it seems. Must be an awful feeling to be losing its memory at such a young age.

It seems that we're finding more stuff by the hour. Donald Trump is on his way back from Paris and has already indicated he'd be spending another weekend at one of his golf courses, this time in New Jersey where the Ladies USA Open is being held.
 

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a good synopsis of where this is all going...

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2017/7/14/123354/769

What I’ll do here is just give you a brief outline.

1. Hermitage Capital Management’s Russian offices were raided by Russian law enforcement and their official seals and incorporating documents were stolen.
2. These seals and documents were subsequently used by mobsters in collusion with tax and interior ministry officials to take control of subsidiary corporations in Russian courts.
3. These subsidiaries were then sued for breaches of contract and found guilty, with Russian mobsters and government officials serving as both plaintiffs and defendants.
4. The resulting penalties were used to create a gigantic $230 million tax rebate.
5. The $230 million was then laundered through an astonishing number of transactions and shell companies.
6. A lawyer and auditor for Hermitage Capital Management named Sergei Magnitsky discovered this and took it to the Russian authorities who responded by accusing him of tax fraud, arresting him, denying him medical treatment, and ultimately bludgeoning him to death.
7. Congress responded by passing the Magnitsky Act which placed sanctions on 44 Russians deemed to have some responsibility for either the tax fraud or Magnitsky’s death.
8. Putin responded by placing sanctions on some Americans and by suspending adoptions of Russian orphans by American citizens.
9. Putin then set up an American lobbying effort, ostensibly on behalf of Americans who wanted to adopt Russian children, to repeal the Magnitsky Act.
10. The folks put in charge of this effort failed to register as lobbyists of a foreign power and several of them were the ones who ultimately met with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort under the pretext that they would provide dirt on Hillary Clinton.

It’s important to know that part of this case involved the purchase of New York real estate with some of the stolen Russian tax money. This put Preet Bharara, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York on the case. He brought a civil case against the company that made those real estate purchases.

Preet Bharara was fired by Donald Trump while the case was in court and it was ultimately settled for a measly $6 million and no formal acknowledgment of guilt.

It would seem that the president followed through on his end of the deal here. The question is what he received in return. Was it assistance with his campaign or just an agreement not to disclose that his staff had met with Russian intelligence officers offering dirt on his opponent?

and people still believe that this wanker and Hillary were equally bad... amazing...
 

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and people still believe that this wanker and Hillary were equally bad... amazing...

One day these people will realize that they've been had by all the fake news they got from social media (Facebook, Twitter) where fake condescending stories about HRC were spread by Russian hackers. I know people who still believe the b.s. about 'Clinton Cash' and the b.s. about pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation. Or that whole Benghazi b.s. or the fact she had a private email server when she was SoS, etc. Unreal!!!
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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One day these people will realize that they've been had by all the fake news they got from social media (Facebook, Twitter) where fake condescending stories about HRC were spread by Russian hackers. I know people who still believe the b.s. about 'Clinton Cash' and the b.s. about pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation. Or that whole Benghazi b.s. or the fact she had a private email server when she was SoS, etc. Unreal!!!

Serious? The Clinton foundation is a scam, Clintons contribute to it to avoid taxes, the Chinese put in millions when they thought that skank was going to win. Notice how the foundation shrank after the devastating loss.
HRC is the most corrupt skank who ever ran for any office. People are pissed because her info was reveled... Really?

Why would foreign governments suddenly lose interest in the charitable work the Clinton Foundation purported to do? They wouldn’t, unless the Clinton Foundation and CGI had existed to give foreign governments and businessmen a way to curry favor with a future president from the beginning. The April shutdown, then, makes complete sense: Why keep operating if there’s no influence left to peddle?
 

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Serious? The Clinton foundation is a scam, Clintons contribute to it to avoid taxes, the Chinese put in millions when they thought that skank was going to win. Notice how the foundation shrank after the devastating loss.
HRC is the most corrupt skank who ever ran for any office. People are pissed because her info was reveled... Really?

Why would foreign governments suddenly lose interest in the charitable work the Clinton Foundation purported to do? They wouldn’t, unless the Clinton Foundation and CGI had existed to give foreign governments and businessmen a way to curry favor with a future president from the beginning. The April shutdown, then, makes complete sense: Why keep operating if there’s no influence left to peddle?

Clinton Foundation was not nearly as corrupt as Trump charities. However the foundation did allow them to retain a large staff through the years that eventually became part of their campaign(s). The foundation peddled influence, but it did not cycle money back to the Clinton's nor did it pay for any legal fees or services for them (like the Trump charities did). Its debatable if Trump using his charities as a piggy bank vs Clintons using theirs to peddle influence with the world's only super power was worse
 

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Trump is using the Presidency to personally enrich himself in ways Hillary could only dream of. Aside from not having a true blind trust,

- had a closed-door party fundraiser at his own Washington hotel
- the State Department (not Secret Service) paid $15,000 to his own new Vancouver hotel
- planned cuts to Housing & Urban Development except for a subsidy that's paid directly to landlords, which is part of his private income
- doubled Mar-a-Lago fees after the Inauguration

Sad thing is this is just the tip of the iceberg. The ethics department head resigned ahead of his tenure's end less than two weeks ago. We no longer have the moral authority to preach to any African country about corruption when corruption is openly happening right in front of us but it doesn't matter if a Republican does it.
 

Doc Holliday

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Donald Trump may be the most corrupt American in the history of the entire country.

Donald Trump is a con man, douchebag, rapist, compulsive liar, mega narcissist, mentally ill, sociopath, immature, misogynist, fake, incompetent, adulterer and one of the biggest assholes anyone will ever meet in his life.

Other than that, i suppose he's an okay guy.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Ah Doc you are just pissed because your prediction of a Clinton win was wrong.
 

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This very well written article is worth reading for any person who follows today's news around the world and especially about one of our favorite countries, the United States of America:

LOWER AND LOWER

So This Is What American Greatness Really Looks Like?

Another week of new low after new low. If this is what making America great looks like, God help us when it arrives.

by Joy-Ann Reid

This week, Garry Kasparov, former Russian chess champion and perennial critic of Vladimir Putin, tweeted about what autocrats do when caught: “1: Deny, lie, slander accusers. 2: Say it was a misunderstanding. 3. Boast & say ‘What are you going to do about it?’”

The day after that tweet, Donald Trump stood on a dais in Paris beside the French president and said of his son’s now-confirmed willingness to receive campaign help for his father from Russia: “I think it’s a meeting that most people in politics probably would have taken.”

That would be jaw dropping and bizarre coming from a mob boss at his pretrial hearing, let alone from the president of the United States. But that line is now standard issue among much of Trump’s political party, which has come around to the notion that collusion with a foreign power—even an adversarial one like Russia—is no big deal.

Trump, his family, and his defenders in the once Grand Old Party have mounted various defenses for his campaign’s collusion with Russians and their cutouts to win the 2016 presidential election. They have tried to ignore Russiagate. They have said collusion with Russia never happened. They have blamed Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Loretta Lynch (Trump now says the Russian government lawyer who met with Donald Jr. was only in the country because Lynch let her in. It will surprise no one to discover that’s not true.) And they have landed on the notion that even if collusion did happen, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. Check off all three of the Kasparov boxes.

With Trump’s ascension, the Russification of the Republican Party, which once supported apartheid-era South Africa and continues to back a Cuba embargo, both on the basis of keeping countries out of Russia’s sphere of influence, is complete. Trump, who in the 1980s complained that Ronald Reagan was too tough on the Soviets, and who has used Russians, including reputed mobsters, as everything from bailouts to buyers to brokers for the expansion of his hotel and pageant franchises, has officially brought kakistocracy to Washington. None but the most unmoored to any recognizable morality need apply. He has made fools of his own spokespeople. He has exposed the religious right’s leaders as very much men of this world, with all its hatred and avarice. He has unleashed the forces of white nationalism and even neo-Nazism in our country. And he has revealed an America that is far less than we thought we were eight years ago when the United States became the first former slave republic to make a member of its once entrapped minority population its national leader.

One wonders whether this democracy, as fragile as it has been revealed to be, and whether the presidency as an institution is entirely salvageable, now that Trump has exploded the norms we thought constrained the office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Since becoming president, Trump has flouted the emoluments clause and openly profited from his office, taking payments from all comers, from the State Department to foreign governments at his golf courses, hotels and his private Florida club. He has encouraged his children to treat the White House as a marketing tool for the Trump businesses, and allowed them to commingle their business activities and ongoing involvement in his government. He has turned American foreign policy into a Santa’s workshop for Saudi and Russian interests and goals, from the needless fight with Qatar to pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate accords to attempting to return the Kremlin’s spy facilities, which the Obama administration seized in retaliation for Russian interference in our election, to giving Russian oligarchs direct financial interest in the Keystone pipeline boondoggle to having his administration lean on House members to soften a Russia sanctions package. (He even briefly floated the outrageous and absurd notion of cybersecurity cooperation with the Kremlin.) He has invited the Russian foreign ministry into the Oval Office out of the eye and earshot of the American media, who now are reduced to audio-only press briefings where they take a back seat to Trump sycophant right-wing blogs, and he has now canoodled with Putin himself, taking the murderous Russian autocrat’s word for it that no election meddling occurred.

Trump has made political thuggery the new American political standard; throwing allies overboard and cuddling up to dictators and autocrats around the world. He has diminished American influence and credibility every day he has been in office.

Meanwhile, he has stripped the presidency of its basic dignity, tweeting his every thought at all hours of the day. He presents America in his world travels as a troglodyte nation, led by an ill-mannered, ill-tempered, praise-needy buffoon—a real life Joffrey Baratheon—who still thinks he’s a television performer, and whose attention to duty lasts only as long as his favorite Fox shows aren’t on.

Domestically, he has thrown the country into chaos, from his Muslim travel bans to his utter incoherence on health care, which he and his party are threatening to strip from up to 23 million people so they can fork over a trillion dollars to America’s own oligarchs. Putin must be positively gleeful at the damage his little ruse—tricking the arrogant ignoramuses of the Trump campaign into believing Russian hackers had the goods on Hillary, and then reeling them in—has wrought.

And so, a political party that long prided itself on a particular kind of patriotism now welcomes foreign interference, so long as it helps them win. A nation that dragged itself, painfully, from slavery to the Voting Rights Act now faces a federal government that is the single biggest threat to the right of all people to vote. A country that stuck out its chest in promoting a particular kind of greatness now wallows in defunding public education, gutting scientific research, and promoting basic ignorance about the planet in the service of bygone industries belching pollution into the air and water, as if American innovation that could create new industries and new jobs for those displaced workers is no longer possible.

Meanwhile, our children are learning that bullies do indeed prosper; that cruelty and narcissism can be a pathway to power, that one of our two major parties believes the poor and struggling do not deserve health care, and that according to the president of the United States, women essentially have no value beyond their looks and dress sizes.

One wonders whether the presidency can recover, or whether we’re doomed to live in an endless cycle of lowbrow celebrity autocracy—America remade in the image of Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi.

Already, other entertainers are bellying up to the bar, eager to follow Trump’s grubby example and take their turn at political powerball. We could soon have a national leadership that includes The Rock, Kid Rock, and who knows, maybe Ted Nugent, now that white nationalism and public vulgarity have gone mainstream.

What hope is there for a country that has reduced itself to this? What future? For now, it’s hard to see a particularly bright one. If this is what making America great looks like, God help us when greatness ensues.
 

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Dear Atty. Gen. Jeffrey Sessions:

I am writing this letter to you regarding former Director FBI James Brien Comey. There are many reasons that I question why he continues to say that the Hillary Rodham Clinton email case is “Closed”. Suffice it to say, my feeling is that he wants to implant that thought in everyone's mind to make it so. There are many reasons that I feel that something is wrong and the case must continue under more ethical leadership.

When the Clinton email case was opened, Mr. Comey could have chosen any one of 1000 FBI agents to oversee the case. Yet, he personally decided to oversee the case himself; for some reason. Could it be that he chose to assume total leadership over the case so he could continue to be the protector of Hillary Clinton from a real investigation? What better control is there when the investigator is already owned by the subject? I suggest that that is true. He has performed numerous things to sabotage the Hillary Clinton email case.

1. He provided immunity to the only witnesses who could successfully lead to substantiate criminal activities.
2. He interviewed Hillary Clinton but for only four hours on a Saturday. That was the extent of his determination of no guilt and he didn’t take notes.
3. Mr. Comey's role was as an investigator. Yet Mr. Comey chose to usurp the role of prosecutor away from his supervisor Ms. Loretta Lynch. Comey as Investigator, had no authority to determine innocence or guilt, yet he exonerated Hillary Clinton and arrived at a “not guilty” verdict by declaring that there was a lack of “intent”; that is not required by the Rule of Law.
4. Former Atty. Gen. Ms. Loretta Lynch met with the subject's spouse, Bill Clinton, in an airplane in Phoenix Arizona. Upon concluding that meeting, Atty. Gen. Lynch apparently decided not to investigate or prosecute Hillary Clinton after that meeting. Something said or done by Bill Clinton in that plane determined the outcome of the Clinton email case.
5. He did not use subpoenas or warrants.
6. He allowed the destruction of evidence and even lost some evidence.
7. As I understand, Comey did not have witnesses give testimony under oath.
8. He did not use a grand jury.
9. He ensured that justice was obstructed in the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
10. And he did many other irregularities to corrupt the entire case against Hillary Clinton.

And above else, James Comey interjected himself as the sole investigator. I ponder how the DOJ would allow James Comey to be the investigator of the case, when he, himself, has direct relationships with the subject; there is bias and there are self-serving decisions. He should have recused himself.

James Comey’s brother is the tax preparer for the Clintons.

James Comey is a director of the bank HSBC Holdings. This bank has donated millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.

I submit this letter to you, our new Attorney General for your consideration. I welcome you to your new position, Mr. Sessions.

Sincerely,

Cc: FBI Dir. Christopher A. Wray
FBI Headquarters
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Klaus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week, has been found dead in Miami. He was 50.

I know you will say fake news but there is far too many supposed fake news about HRC to not take a seond look.
 
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