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Question of the day: Who's the predator and who's the prey?

I've been reading stuff here in the last 24h that leads me to ask this question.

Before I keep going, I know that most SP-Client meetings / relationships can be qualified as "sane", but some obviously aren't.
  • Any SP with a major hard drug problem is a prey. Clients who indulge in their very open-minded services at often ridiculously low prices, knowing perfectly well how fucked up they are and that they need the money for their next fix, are predators.
  • Any client with a lack of emotional stability, or poor self-esteem, or who simply falls in love, is a prey. SPs who let their clients go broke by spending all their money over them, knowing perfectly well that they might end up with major financial problems, are predators.
It goes both ways.
I am prey

I know some clients actively seek SPs with either drug or alcohol addictions. They even supply them with what they need sometimes in lieu of an actual payment. I think there’s a special place in hell for them.
I got a post deleted by the mods for pointing this out about an unnamed member doing this (and worse).


I wonder if I'll get banned for bringing this up again.
 
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AirBo

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I am prey

I've been there before. Definitely your story inspired my post, but if I search Merb a bit, there certainly are plenty other similar stories. Seeing someone 30 times in one month in hopes of falling out of love though, that stuck with me LOL But hey, if you have the financial means, all power to you. You don't strike me as someone who would go broke, so I took what you said as a figure of speech, but it must have tear some kind of a hole in your finances.

My point (and LC's, I guess), simply being: If you're in love head over heels for her but it's not reciprocated, she should, as a descent person, try to calm you down a bit.

Being in love is a nice feeling :) but it can be destructive
 

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I've been there before. Definitely your story inspired my post, but if I search Merb a bit, there certainly are plenty other similar stories. Seeing someone 30 times in one month in hopes of falling out of love though, that stuck with me LOL But hey, if you have the financial means, all power to you. You don't strike me as someone who would go broke, so I took what you said as a figure of speech, but it must have tear some kind of a hole in your finances.

My point (and LC's, I guess), simply being: If you're in love head over heels for her but it's not reciprocated, she should, as a descent person, try to calm you down a bit.

Being in love is a nice feeling :) but it can be destructive
Very true. I wonder how often SPs will stop their clients who get obsessed.

For me, before, it was clear that it was not reciprocated, so I was just having fun :) it's easier to have a $ limit and walk away when it's clearly not reciprocated. Kind of like going to a casino and limiting yourself to $X and walking away when it's gone. (Unfortunately, it's gotten a little blurry since Saturday, now it's a little dangerous.)
 
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Thought of the day: I need more money... a lot more money... :cool:

 
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SPs are the one who are doing it for money. We do it for love! Men make money only for love otherwise I would be smoking chillum in machu pichhu.
Then you shouldn’t be seeing escorts not much love involved, sex yes.
Escorts see you for money you see them not for love but lust anybody who sees multiple partners SP or client is definitely not in love.
 

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Then you shouldn’t be seeing escorts not much love involved, sex yes.
Escorts see you for money you see them not for love but lust anybody who sees multiple partners SP or client is definitely not in love.
Yes but love does naturally exists between human beings so that is always there when I see the girls. But they have to “act” like it cause then the life as they know it would stop if they actually “fall” in love. For me it is more like free love and that is why I don't see many escorts cause not everyone is at that “level of consciousness” to practice free love.
 

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SPs are the one who are doing it for money. We do it for love! Men make money only for love otherwise I would be smoking chillum in machu pichhu.
Money is important in a man's life as it provides the means to provide for his family and fulfill his responsibilities as a father.
 
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SPs are the one who are doing it for money. We do it for love!
Maybe I misunderstand what you really mean but if you see it as "love", like a girlfriend, I would say you are not at the right place.
For most SPs any client that shows too much "love" is a high alert red flag bro.

The highest level of respect and recognition for the privilege that the ladies offer us is an absolute must, but let's be chill with the "love".
 
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Yes but love does naturally exists between human beings so that is always there when I see the girls. But they have to “act” like it cause then the life as they know it would stop if they actually “fall” in love. For me it is more like free love and that is why I don't see many escorts cause not everyone is at that “level of consciousness” to practice free love.
As Fradi stated, seeing multiple SPs is lust, not love.
Having not seen an SP since January 13th when you have the habit of seeing 2 to 3 a week is love, not lust (and probably mental illness..lol);)
 
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Money is important in a man's life as it provides the means to provide for his family and fulfill his responsibilities as a father.
Why would you want to be a father , to love your children , love your family right ? It is not supposed to be a responsibility and why do you think it is the only way to be evolve ? It is a nice way to pass on your trumas for sure and increasing the burden on the already burdened earth. Don't you think it is just another failed attempt to feel loved ?
And haven't we already discussed that how 95% of the clients are married , so do you think that is what they are earning for ?
 

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Maybe I misunderstand what you really mean but if you see it as "love", like a girlfriend, I would say you are not at the right place.
For most SPs any client that shows too much "love" is a high alert red flag bro.

The highest level of respect and recognition for the privilege that the ladies offer us is an absolute must, but let's be chill with the "love".
Highest level of respect is to treat them purely as an object of lust ? No thanks , I will stick to my ideals and you stick to yours . Maybe the definition of love is little skewed in today’s time but that is not my problem:) . That is why also said all providers are not at that “level” of understanding and I had to go through my trials and tribulations to understand that so I get where are you coming from.
For me love is what you think love is , minus the obsessive attachment .
 
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Why would you want to be a father , to love your children , love your family right ? It is not supposed to be a responsibility and why do you think it is the only way to be evolve ? It is a nice way to pass on your trumas for sure and increasing the burden on the already burdened earth. Don't you think it is just another failed attempt to feel loved ?
And haven't we already discussed that how 95% of the clients are married , so do you think that is what they are earning for ?
I respect your opinion and viewpoint but everyone has different needs and goals in life.
 
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Charsi-baba

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I respect your opinion and viewpoint but everyone has different needs and goals in life.
True on microscopic level , but if you broaden your perspective , the you can see that everybody wants the same thing from life , love/happiness/peace whatever you wanna call it.
Same as you can see an individual as belonging to a particular creed /race /religion/ country , but on a broad scale we are all just “children of the earth “/humans.
 

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The decline in agency women that began with the pandemic (maybe sooner) has not gone away. I was in Montreal last week and the complete, memorable experiences (looks + service) I had were with indies. Once upon a time, agency and indie experiences were pretty close; that time has gone. I wouldn't even consider myself a Montreal old-timer. I've only been visiting your wonderful city since 2017.

My sample size of average agency experience was four women. (It also seems the picture editing is taking more liberties, but there's no way to objectively quantify that. After all, one is more inclined to believe in heavy editing if she doesn't meet your expectations).

Woman #1: great kisser and liked digits, but made no BJ attempt during entire session. She was cute, but body was definitely not as tone as the pictures suggested.

Woman #2: was pretty close to the pics, was very aggressive with a good BBBJ and was game with face fucking. But there's also a fine line between sexily grabbing a dick behind pants and trying to yank it out like when the alien burst out of John Hurt's chest in the first Alien movie. 90% clenched lip kissing.

Woman #3: More clenched lip kissing. Learned from her she stopped DFK cuz some fellas love shoving tongues in her mouth. After I showed her my kissing style, she agreed it was far more pleasant than a shoved tongue and she could definitely work with it. But don't really think she's into DFK either because she immediately reverted back to clenched lips (ou peut etre c'est moi:p)

Woman #4: looked fine in street clothes, but lost my will immediately upon seeing her in lingerie that was far too tight and made her not slim figure spill out of it. She definitely seemed slimmer in her pics.

She didn't stick around (my call) but offered to at least give me one kiss cuz we did exactly zero funny business. I agreed and was greeted with one of those kisses where the intent is to swallow your lips rather than dance in rhythm with them. Fucking awful. I wiped away saliva while she looked away. She also vaped in bed for the brief time that we just talked. Getting a spot in an agency doesn't mean you're agency material.

So there was good and bad. Zero hiccups with the indies. Will get to reviews eventually, but it might be time for an indie-only trip if this lackluster agency stuff continues.
 
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