Hey Shameless,Joe.t said:
Go get Jeter and A-Rod some more beer before you tuck them in tonight like a good little suck up. WATCHING the playoffs must be sooo draining...LOL.
Big Hug,
Korbie
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The Joe.T Memorial FM® Yankees Suck Thread for 2008
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Go get Jeter and A-Rod some more beer before you tuck them in tonight like a good little suck up. WATCHING the playoffs must be sooo draining...LOL.
Big Hug,
Korbie
Korbel said:
I will second that although Kotsay was called out on a strike that was a ball but I guess them's the breaks.
Congratulations Devil Rays, just like I called it.
Really hard to be upset watching a fabulous young team going to the series. The Sox will have more chances, though the Rays will be tough for years to come.
Looks like the Yankees will be a third/fourth place team for the foreseeable future.
Looks like the Yankees will be a third/fourth place team for the foreseeable future.
Joe.t said:
Hey Shameless,
Yeah, those 50-50 chances are really tough...lol.
Now that the Sox are out I hope the Rays win it all. They may not get as many chances considering how small their salary market is and keeping their best players for very long will be tough with large market teams chip off the best they have. I also like to see different teams who have never won win once in while.
Cheers,
Korbel
Not quite true, Korbie. They've done a great job of signing their kids to long term deals. To wit:Korbel said:
Pena signed through 2010
Crawford 2010
Kazmir 2012
Bradford 2009
Wheeler 2011
Iwamura 2010
Baldelli 2011
Shields 2014
Price 2012
Longoria 2016
Upton under control through 2012
Navarro under control through 2011
Garza under control through 2012
Aybar under control through 2012
Howell under control through 2012
Sonnanstine under control through 2012
The guys under control are either arbitration eligible this year or next. Look for them to give a number of them long term deals before the end of the year.
rumpleforeskiin said:
I don't think so bubble head, Hank has gone on record as saying that he personally will be more hands on this off season instead of consulting with that idiot brother of his who vetoed the Santana deal, Hank has stated that he will make big moves this offseason, mumblings out of New York say that the Yankee rotation could look like this.
CC
Wang
Joba
Burnett
Pettitte
How is this for a third/fouth place team sucker!!!.
Joe.t said:
Right Shameless,
I remember some blustering, bombastic boy saying Sabathia would be with the Tankees for the 2008 season...lol. Besides, is having a dolt like H Steinboner more closely in charge a good thing. I know faithful Yankers fans who think he should be a silent owner and that the former son-in-law should have run the team because he actually knew something about it...unlike Hanky.
Toodles,
Korbel
Similarities
Talent wise there are many similarities between the Rays and the early 1970's Oakland A's that won three consecutive World Series. Power, Upton,Pena, Longaria compare favourably with Jackson, Bando and Tenace. Pitching has not matured to the same level as the A's(Catfish Hunter was in his 8th season in 1972) and lacks a Rollie Fingers reliever but the potential is there. Team speed and defence are better than the A's.
Also they have the start of a finacial plan in place to keep the team together something that Charles Finley lacked.
Talent wise there are many similarities between the Rays and the early 1970's Oakland A's that won three consecutive World Series. Power, Upton,Pena, Longaria compare favourably with Jackson, Bando and Tenace. Pitching has not matured to the same level as the A's(Catfish Hunter was in his 8th season in 1972) and lacks a Rollie Fingers reliever but the potential is there. Team speed and defence are better than the A's.
Also they have the start of a finacial plan in place to keep the team together something that Charles Finley lacked.
Ah, the Oakland A's of the Charles O. Finlay days. They were my favorite team back in the days. Vida Blue, Bert Campaneris, Joe Rudy, Blue Moon Odom, Dick Williams, etc. I just loved that team!!eastender said:
What i like the most about the Rays is the fact that the core players on the team are signed to long-term contracts & will likely be around for the next few years. What i hate the most about them? The damn indoor stadium!
Personally, I can think of few teams with fewer similarities than these Rays and those A's. The only thing they have in common is that they're winners.eastender said:
The A's of that period had a primarily veteran pitching staff. Though their pitching staff was young, it was a veteran staff. In 1972, Odom was a six year veteran, Hunter an eight year veteran, Holtzman aa seven year veteran. The A's had a dominant closer, which the Rays do not.
The Rays feature a ton of team speed: Bartlett, Upton, and Crawford all steal bases. Even Hinske stole 10. The team stole 142. In an era when speed figured more than it does today, the A's were quite a slow team other than Bert Campaneris, swiping just 87 bases; of these, only 33 were stolen by guys other than Campaneris.
The A's hit a lot of home runs, but didn't draw walks, 10th in the league of 12. The Rays also hit home runs, but were 2nd in the league in walks.
The Rays won despite running 13th in the league in batting average, while the A's were in the middle of the pack. The A's were second in the league in both runs scored and runs allowed. The Rays were also second in the league in runs allowed while only ninth in runs scored.
Taking nothing away from this extremely talented club which will only get better, the Rays were lucky this year, winning 5 more games than their run differential suggests they should have. The 1972 A's won 4 fewer games than their run differential suggests they should have.
Again, the Rays are a fabulous young team, but if not for four injuries (Percival, Lowell, Beckett, and Ortiz), they'd likely be watching baseball tomorrow night rather than playing it.) (And yes, I include Percival in the injuries that helped the Rays. Were he healthy, he'd have been on the roster lighting fires rather than Price, who put them out.)
Don't Let Facts Get In the Way Rumples
Rumples
The difference in the pitching was noted in my post. The Rays won a trip to the WS the first year they were contenders while Oakland took a few years.
That being said your data about the A's speed is very suspect. Bill North led the team in stolen bases in 1973 and 1974. Campy was getting old. Also Reggie Jackson,when not hamstrung, had seasons - 1973,1974 where he stole app.25 bases.Also team speed goes beyond stolen bases which you overlook.
Finally injuries are a crutch for losers.
rumpleforeskiin said:
Rumples
The difference in the pitching was noted in my post. The Rays won a trip to the WS the first year they were contenders while Oakland took a few years.
That being said your data about the A's speed is very suspect. Bill North led the team in stolen bases in 1973 and 1974. Campy was getting old. Also Reggie Jackson,when not hamstrung, had seasons - 1973,1974 where he stole app.25 bases.Also team speed goes beyond stolen bases which you overlook.
Finally injuries are a crutch for losers.
Joba Can't Take It. Runs Like A Baby?
Hello all,
Report: Red Sox insult preceded Joba DUI
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8703066/Report:-Red-Sox-insult-preceded-Joba-DUI
I don't approve of taunting, but really it comes with the territory even if it is wrong.
Taunts about his team's lousy season prompted Yankee pitcher Joba Chamberlain to storm out of a Nebraska strip joint just before he was busted for alleged drunken driving, associates said yesterday.
The pitcher was spotted tossing back at least two Grey Goose vodka drinks at a friend's watering hole before hitting a topless club, where patrons said he had been enjoying the sights and tipping big - before stomping out early Saturday morning after a customer teased him about the Bombers' poor performance.
"Too bad you didn't play for the Red Sox," the customer said, according to another patron at the club. "Otherwise, you wouldn't be sitting here in a strip club in Nebraska."
The 6-foot-3, 235-pound Chamberlain rose in anger, but several friends intervened before the tiff escalated beyond pushing and shoving.
A furious Chamberlain left, and moments later, cops nabbed him for allegedly speeding in his 2006 BMW 750i. They hauled him off to a detox center after they smelled alcohol on his breath and saw an open container of alcohol on the passenger seat.
Authorities said Chamberlain, who submitted to a Breathalyzer test at the scene, had a blood-alcohol content of .134 at the time of his arrest, nearly double Nebraska's legal limit of .08.
Chamberlain, 23, was scheduled to appear in court Dec. 17 for a citation on suspicion of drunken driving. Lancaster County prosecutors have not decided on formal charges.
Chamberlain continued to lie low yesterday after issuing an apology a day earlier.
What began as a fun Friday night for Chamberlain sank quicker than the injured Yankee's season after he knocked back two vodka and sodas at Dillinger's, said the bar's co-owner, Mike Figueroa.
"He left at 10:30," Figueroa said. "He left early. I talked to him, and he said he would try to make it back."
Joba never did. Instead, he went to ogle women at the Night Before Lounge, a topless joint in downtown Lincoln.
He spent $45 on drinks and tipped $100, sources said.
"He tipped pretty well, and the girls were excited he was here," one customer said.
Yankee brass said they stand behind their pitcher.
"We're behind him 100 percent," said Hal Steinbrenner, the Yankees' executive vice president. "He knows he made a mistake. We've always said we're an extended family."
".134"...that's must take a lot of drinking for such a big boy.
Toodles,
Korbel
Hello all,
Report: Red Sox insult preceded Joba DUI
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8703066/Report:-Red-Sox-insult-preceded-Joba-DUI
I don't approve of taunting, but really it comes with the territory even if it is wrong.
Taunts about his team's lousy season prompted Yankee pitcher Joba Chamberlain to storm out of a Nebraska strip joint just before he was busted for alleged drunken driving, associates said yesterday.
The pitcher was spotted tossing back at least two Grey Goose vodka drinks at a friend's watering hole before hitting a topless club, where patrons said he had been enjoying the sights and tipping big - before stomping out early Saturday morning after a customer teased him about the Bombers' poor performance.
"Too bad you didn't play for the Red Sox," the customer said, according to another patron at the club. "Otherwise, you wouldn't be sitting here in a strip club in Nebraska."
The 6-foot-3, 235-pound Chamberlain rose in anger, but several friends intervened before the tiff escalated beyond pushing and shoving.
A furious Chamberlain left, and moments later, cops nabbed him for allegedly speeding in his 2006 BMW 750i. They hauled him off to a detox center after they smelled alcohol on his breath and saw an open container of alcohol on the passenger seat.
Authorities said Chamberlain, who submitted to a Breathalyzer test at the scene, had a blood-alcohol content of .134 at the time of his arrest, nearly double Nebraska's legal limit of .08.
Chamberlain, 23, was scheduled to appear in court Dec. 17 for a citation on suspicion of drunken driving. Lancaster County prosecutors have not decided on formal charges.
Chamberlain continued to lie low yesterday after issuing an apology a day earlier.
What began as a fun Friday night for Chamberlain sank quicker than the injured Yankee's season after he knocked back two vodka and sodas at Dillinger's, said the bar's co-owner, Mike Figueroa.
"He left at 10:30," Figueroa said. "He left early. I talked to him, and he said he would try to make it back."
Joba never did. Instead, he went to ogle women at the Night Before Lounge, a topless joint in downtown Lincoln.
He spent $45 on drinks and tipped $100, sources said.
"He tipped pretty well, and the girls were excited he was here," one customer said.
Yankee brass said they stand behind their pitcher.
"We're behind him 100 percent," said Hal Steinbrenner, the Yankees' executive vice president. "He knows he made a mistake. We've always said we're an extended family."
".134"...that's must take a lot of drinking for such a big boy.
Toodles,
Korbel
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Where's my money, honey?
Joe T. and I made a wager which has been posted in this thread. It was supposed to be paid within a week of it becoming mathematically impossible for the losing team (the Yankees) being unable to overtake the winning (Boston) in the final 2008 regular season standings.
Joe T. answered by initial e-mail requesting settlement by stating that he would pay as soon as he visited Montreal. However, it has now been more than a month and he has not had the courtesy to respond to my most pms asking that he simply mail a check.
Joe T. and I made a wager which has been posted in this thread. It was supposed to be paid within a week of it becoming mathematically impossible for the losing team (the Yankees) being unable to overtake the winning (Boston) in the final 2008 regular season standings.
Joe T. answered by initial e-mail requesting settlement by stating that he would pay as soon as he visited Montreal. However, it has now been more than a month and he has not had the courtesy to respond to my most pms asking that he simply mail a check.
anon_vlad said:
Hello Anon,
It's pretty harsh to insinuate Shameless Joe is a welcher. Surely he is an honorable person who sticks by his word. I'm sure there's just some mistake and that Joe would never welch. Say it ain't so Shameless Joe.
C'mon boy,
Korbel
I have never met Joe and don't wish to cast any aspersions on his character. I am simply impatient. I am sufficiently old school to be annoyed when one doesn't have the courtesy to respond to a scrupously polite pair of messages in a reasonable time period.Korbel said:
anon_vlad said:
Hello Anon,
I understand. It is troubling, with terms set so precise, that the debtor doesn't seem to have settled the matter almost a month after the due date.
Hmmm,
Korbel
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