The montreal sex industry is really going crazy
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I have been around in this business in Montreal since 2000 under another nickname that I could give in private message... I have spent more than 400K during this period (10 years) of time trying agencies, indep, and even non escort sugar babies, girls next door, lovers... lol... younger ladies (18+ of course...), women in the 20s or 30s, 2 hours appointments, complete nights, vacations, trips in europ, jamaica, nyc, boat trips... basically I tried out most of what ca be tried ! lol and spent all my fun money (and maybe more lol) in hobbying...
First things, from my experience I can say that, in a long term perspective, you got the value corresponding to what you pay... The ladies who can practice higher prices and survive are always top ladies... the cheaper labour... is always cheaper labour... or it becomes more expensive very quickly when the lady discovers her potential ! There is no reliable bargain...
In my opinion, 500$ or less for 2 hours is a bargain and is very suspect to me... As a lady I would never have sex with a stranger for less than 500$ and I am somewhat sad that some ladies have to do so... I know that I look kind of hypocrypt saying that... however that is my opinion...
Moreover I dont like going with a lady who has to meet 4 clients a day - or more - to survive. It is a psychological turn off and a security issue for me.
Second thing, I do prefer more mature ladies than younger ladies... Ladies in her 30s are the more gorgeous and well balanced ladies !!! As most of the hobbyist I was initially interested in younger ladies, but this changes with time... Do you agree with that DOC or EB ?
Third thing, eventhough 500$ seems quite a lot of money for some guys in here, I do believe that it is better to practive twice less often but have 10 times better quality... I also noticed that amateur lovers or wives are, in the end, much much much much more expensive... lol My ex wife costs me so much more than 10 years of hobbying and gave me so much less good times and fun...
Last thing, dont count $$ or you gonna depressed... lol count and cherisch good memories and friends instead...
Happy New Year !! ;-)
First things, from my experience I can say that, in a long term perspective, you got the value corresponding to what you pay... The ladies who can practice higher prices and survive are always top ladies... the cheaper labour... is always cheaper labour... or it becomes more expensive very quickly when the lady discovers her potential ! There is no reliable bargain...
In my opinion, 500$ or less for 2 hours is a bargain and is very suspect to me... As a lady I would never have sex with a stranger for less than 500$ and I am somewhat sad that some ladies have to do so... I know that I look kind of hypocrypt saying that... however that is my opinion...
Moreover I dont like going with a lady who has to meet 4 clients a day - or more - to survive. It is a psychological turn off and a security issue for me.
Second thing, I do prefer more mature ladies than younger ladies... Ladies in her 30s are the more gorgeous and well balanced ladies !!! As most of the hobbyist I was initially interested in younger ladies, but this changes with time... Do you agree with that DOC or EB ?
Third thing, eventhough 500$ seems quite a lot of money for some guys in here, I do believe that it is better to practive twice less often but have 10 times better quality... I also noticed that amateur lovers or wives are, in the end, much much much much more expensive... lol My ex wife costs me so much more than 10 years of hobbying and gave me so much less good times and fun...
Last thing, dont count $$ or you gonna depressed... lol count and cherisch good memories and friends instead...
Happy New Year !! ;-)
i always get a kick out of 'cv' intro's as if it really establishes someone's credibility on an anonymous forum, ha ha. anyhow...
consider yourself lucky to get what you paid for in the hdh tier cuz nobody bats 1,000 in this game over a period of 10 years.
it really depends on you and how your social interaction skills w/ women is in general. the 'genuine' quality of affection & service you receive is based purely on your own expectations. great service & fun times can be had in any price tier.
...with more deep rooted issues!!!
not for everyone. apparently your expectations have changed, and that's all that should matter to you.
word.
Massive round of applause for our longtime fellow merbiste JOHNMBOT!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR !
About Mister 1 post: Good to hear from you! How's life in jail Bernie? PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK, mister I don't give a damn about money (are you earl jones or bernie madoff?)
About Mister 1 post: Good to hear from you! How's life in jail Bernie? PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK, mister I don't give a damn about money (are you earl jones or bernie madoff?)
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Hello Jman,
I don't know why some boys get so offended at being called a white knight. In cases like the one above I'll wear the label happily and proudly. Of course it's not my place to jump in in cases like that, but Ariane has been one of the most decent members on this board. If Marathon Man intended some other meaning than it seemed then apologies to him. But it seemed otherwise as read.
Then again the other kind of "white knight" blindly defending a lady who has made a mistake or is in the wrong...I refuse to be or support.
Back to the subject, I did see ladies from Montreal Girlfriends visiting Boston starting in 2002. The women were all beautiful, but only one was GFE. The value of the experience of being with these ladies did not measure up to the price in Boston ($300 U.S./hour) or the price in Montreal ($250/hour-450/2 hours). Melanie Cherie of Frenchkiss was worth every penny, but she was rare.Generally I found I was paying more for conversation and largely for a view rather than much real GFE service most of the time. In short...not worth it. Most were not worth the price then, so I wouldn't think of paying more now for HDH ladies in general.
As I said, I understand why agencies and Independents have raised rates. But considering the rise in prices combined with the sunken value of the dollar versus CDN, then 1.6 now barely 1.0, in effect rates have doubled for Americans. I know the drastic drop in exchange rates are no ones fault. But these are the bare facts, and my hobbying was based as much on what I could afford then as now. Yes, I came in when Americans had great advantages with rates. That is also only as much my fault as the economy is the fault of the agencies who have used conditions to justify higher rates. We on both sides have hard realities to deal with.
Cheers,
Merlot
Hi Merlot,
I don't know what the hang up is on knighthood, if like you say it is for the right reasons and not for pointless promotion or defense of a misguided point - then so what. Just because I am not an ass, its wrong?! When the title was first bestowed upon me I was pissed. But I quickly understand the bestower was an ass and I was in the right...as you are here. Now I think it is kinda cool.
Perhaps we should start an order of chivalry. I hear the chicks dig chivalry. Back on subject, your point relative to the inflation of rates relative to price increases and the devaluation of the USD vs CAD is very valid indeed. Just under a year ago if cash was converted from USD to CAD we were getting almost 30% more for every dollar...translated we now get 1/3 less...ouch . But none of us control the exchange rate so, c'est la vie. What we do control is where we spend our dollars and to that point Montreal is still a good value, although the differential continues to be significantly decreased when you factor in travel expenses. I am confident though that if the market or the economy cannot sustain the current rates, then they will adjust themselves accordingly (as some already are).
I must add one thing though and I would fail in my duty as Sir J if I did not...you cannot begin to compare the quality of the lovely ladies in Montreal to anywhere I have found in the states...those Québécoise women, oh la la!
Cheerio my good man,
jman47*
*Royal Order of the Garter
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If a lady or an agency is too expensive in your opinion, just don't use them... if most customers agree with you, the lady or agency will have no other choice then reducing their prices... Apparently it is not the case.
Escorts are not a public service... It is a private and profitable business. Market rules. And I don't think that the governement will ever regulate this market lol
Escorts are not a public service... It is a private and profitable business. Market rules. And I don't think that the governement will ever regulate this market lol
IMO, Montreal is still hobbying heaven compared with other cities in Canada and the United States.
So let's make sure Montreal will always be a heaven...as customers we have the power to decide.
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Once again, escorts and agencies are not social workers... If their profits was decreasing, don't worry, they would quickly adapt their rates to the market... I am not in their books and secrets, but it seems that the profitability is still there... As far as I can see, the rates are increasing, the number of providers is increasing, the diversity of providers and rates is there... I can see no sign that the prices would be too high for the market in place...
Providers (especially indep) are not searching for increasing their clientele... they are looking for increasing their revenues and profitability, which is fair.
Providers (especially indep) are not searching for increasing their clientele... they are looking for increasing their revenues and profitability, which is fair.
You cannot force price reductions by boycotts (if that was what you were alluding to) and expect that the market will be favorable. Some girls will quit and go to strip clubs or do other things entirely. Your supply will dwindle. The demand may be the same but the supply will be less. The price may even increase after a while until some of the girls come back.
I have noticed that agencies are running more specials. There are new agencies with new girls and it will force competition with price reductions. But you have to be reasonable. The girls do this for a reason. They make more money being a SP than any other job they would be qualified for.
So take advantage of the specials the agencies are advertising. Don't forget no one likes go back in rates or pay, but in some situations they have to.
Heartbreakers was a straight $150/hr and no discount for multiple hours. Fantasme (ahh, the legendary Crystelle) was $140 for the first hour and $110 for additional hours.
I remember Claudia was $150/hr., then she later came back at $300/hr.I think the first $300 girl at that agency was "model Jessica"?
Quite right, momentary brain cramp - I meant Heartbreakers not Montreal Girlfriends .
It's quite possible that Jessica was their first $300 girl, even though she may have been once she left the agency to go indy. Sweet Dreams.....the first SD girl that i saw was Victoria, also known as Coralie. Memorable!
Coralie - one of my all time favourites. Last time I saw her was in Bromont. She had a great memory and as an Indy believed in maintaining customer specific prices. If you started seeing her at say $500 for 2 you were always charged that price even though her rate went up to $700 for 2.
I prefer not to discuss this in public and I will answer privatly only the people I know or I can trust... lol
Anyway now I am ghn and that's it. I wrote about my previous nick just to place a context and inform that I was not a rooky, eventhough I can act as a damn idiot sometimes... Since it does not show within my actions maybe I felt useful to inform... lol
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