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New Kate Upton Superbowl Commercial sneak peek

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The Oakland Raiders: A Story of Cheating and Back Stabbing.

Hey Boyz,

No buddy boy, it is called giving someone the benefit of the doubt...

Oh sure you great big (NOT) humanitarian. If he's not a Patriot he's excused. Have you ever not been two-faced on a principle.

Former Oakland Raiders claim coach Bill Callahan lost Super Bowl XXXVII against Tampa Bay Buccaneers on purpose
Callahan, currently an offensive line coach for the Cowboys, denied the allegations in a statement Tuesday night, saying he’s “shocked and saddened,” by the comments, which he called “ludicrous and defamatory.”


WOW all,

It's pretty bad when two of the teams biggest icons come out and make a huge accusation, but when one of them is Jerry Rice, one of the biggest legends in the history of the NFL, the stink of the issue will penetrate the NFL heavens.

As the San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Ravens gear up for Super Bowl XLVII, Tim Brown still can’t get his mind off what happened with the Vince Lombardi Trophy on the line 10 years ago — the day he contends his coach sabotaged the Oakland Raiders’ chances.

The former Raider has sparked a firestorm of Super Bowl proportions, claiming that Bill Callahan, Oakland’s coach in Super Bowl XXXVII, lost the game to Tampa Bay on purpose.

“We all called it sabotage... because Callahan and (former Bucs coach Jon) Gruden were good friends,” Brown said in a SiriusXM Radio interview Saturday.

“And Callahan had a big problem with the Raiders, you know, hated the Raiders. You know, only came because Gruden made him come. Literally walked off the field on us a couple of times during the season when he first got there, the first couple years.”

Callahan, currently an offensive line coach for the Cowboys, denied the allegations in a statement Tuesday night, saying he’s “shocked and saddened,” by the comments, which he called “ludicrous and defamatory.”

“I think it would be in the best interests of all, including the game America loves, that these allegations be retracted immediately,” he said.

Brown didn’t point the finger at Callahan alone. One of his 2002 teammates, Hall of Fame receiver Jerry Rice, echoed his claims, calling the last-minute offensive changes “very unusual.”

“Why would you wait to the last second to change the game plan?” said Rice, now an ESPN analyst. “ . . . And in a way, maybe because he (Callahan) didn’t like the Raiders, he was willing to sabotage just a little bit.”

Former Raider fullback Jon Ritchie, a former ESPN analyst, also agreed, saying in a text to ESPN that “I’ve said it for years. What we practiced heavily during the week is not what we ran in that game.”

And Charlie Garner, one of the Raiders’ primary rushers that season, told 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia that “there may be something to what Mr. Brown has been saying” and “I also know that he (Callahan) didn’t want to be there.”

Brown said the Raiders began the run-up to Super Bowl XXXVII — which the Raiders lost, 48-21 — practicing a run-heavy game plan. Then, on Friday, two days before the game, Callahan, a close friend of Gruden’s who was in his first year as Raiders head coach after serving on Gruden’s staff in Oakland, ditched the ground game for a pass-heavy attack. The Raiders, despite a bevy of tailbacks, would run the ball just 11 times in the loss, as quarterback Rich Gannon attempted 44 passes and threw five interceptions.

The charges aren’t new. Four years ago, the morning before Super Bowl XLIII, Brown made similar claims, and he said Tuesday that he’s been “talking about this for 10 years.”

But nothing has been resolved, and even Brown’s teammates remain divided on the strange circumstances of their blowout loss. A year later, the Raiders finished 4-12, and Callahan was out of a job.

Not all of Brown’s ex-mates backed him. Former Raider running back Zack Crockett, now an Oakland scout, said on ESPN Radio that he believed Callahan changed the game plan purely to account for the absence of center Barret Robbins, the starting center who disappeared the night before the game and did not play.

Brown, however, said Robbins had pleaded with Callahan not to swap the game plans. “Barret Robbins begged coach Callahan, ‘Do not do this to me. I don’t have time to make my calls, to get my calls ready. You can’t do this to me on Friday. We haven’t practiced full speed, we can’t get this done,’ ” Brown said.

Gannon also defended Callahan, blaming the loss on the fact that Oakland simply hadn’t changed its offense enough after Gruden left.

“We all wanted to win,” Gannon said on SiriusXM Tuesday. “So much of our verbiage and terminology was a carryover from what Jon Gruden had installed . . . so we were calling certain plays, and guys like Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks were calling out the runs.”

Former Raiders linebacker Bill Romanowski said he was “blown away” by Brown’s charges against Callahan.

“He absolutely couldn’t be further from the truth,” Romanowski said on Philly’s 97.5. “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m blown away that something like that would come out of an intelligent man’s mouth.”


No wonder the Raiders are so bad. They're still crying and looking for excuses about losing 10 years ago when they are terrible now. Talk about dirty and dysfunctional.

peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Raiders,

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You want a player tossed out when no contact was made? I see bitterness and anger runs deep among Raiders fans since the Patriots and Vinatieri kicked your butt in the 2001 snow bowl. I LOVE IT. :D :nod:

Cheers,

Merlot

Hmmmm, lets see-

Brady Fined by NFL

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Brady apologizes to Ed Reed -

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/71410/tom-brady-apologizes-to-ed-reed

Lemme guess, in your view OJ was innocent because the glove didn't fit, sad.:rolleyes:
 

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I noticed that the fine Brady got was $10,000, which is seemingly the minimum fine for doing anything in the NFL. Has anyone who has gotten fined this year been fined either at or less $10,000?
 

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My sure shot pick of the week is that New England will not play in the Super Bowl, oh I forgot, I made that prediction waaaaaaaaaaaay back before the season ever started.:nod:

I'm picking the 49ers to win but the Ravens to cover the 3.5 in a very exciting Super BowL, I would love to see the Ravens win it for the retiring HOF Ray Lewis.
 

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As i said before, just like in the patriots/Ravens game, if Joe Flacco plays a flawless game, the Ravens will win. Should be a good game tho.
 

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What a good game, crazy at times but in the end the better team won. Ray Lewis goes out on top and i could not be happier for him, well deserved for the first ballot hall of famer.

Mr. Flacco, you are now an ELITE QB that you said you thought of yourself as a couple years ago, you were not then, but you are now.

Congrats to the Baltimore Ravens, well deserved boyZ

 

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My sure shot pick of the week is that New England will not play in the Super Bowl, oh I forgot, I made that prediction waaaaaaaaaaaay back before the season ever started.:nod:.
Did you make that pick at the same time you picked them to miss the playoffs?
 

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Sorry bro but they did not win the Super Bowl, so they are a colossal, total, failure, that is my point, failure is failure no matter how you paint it, you being a Red Sox fan not need a further explanation.:nod:


The Super Bowl itself was a very exciting game and ending, I personally thought the 49er's got stiffed on the 4th down play at the end which was clearly holding, Harbaugh's reaction on the sidline tells it all.

http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index....en_called_on_49ers_4th_down_incompletion.html
 

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Sorry bro but they did not win the Super Bowl, so they are a colossal, total, failure, that is my point, failure is failure no matter how you paint it, you being a Red Sox fan not need a further explanation.:nod:
Football operates on a level playing field, Joe, given the salary cap. When a team wins three superbowls in 10 years and goes deep into the playoffs quite a few other times, they can hardly be considered a failure.

If the NFL had no salary cap and the Patriots spent 2-3 times on payroll what most other teams spend and won, say, 1 championship in 12 years, then you could say that they're a failure, like some other team in some other sport that consistently spends 2-3 times on payroll what other teams spend and consistently come up short. Now that's failure, as this team's captain points out each and every October.
 

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Football operates on a level playing field, Joe, given the salary cap. When a team wins three superbowls in 10 years and goes deep into the playoffs quite a few other times, they can hardly be considered a failure.

If the NFL had no salary cap and the Patriots spent 2-3 times on payroll what most other teams spend and won, say, 1 championship in 12 years, then you could say that they're a failure, like some other team in some other sport that consistently spends 2-3 times on payroll what other teams spend and consistently come up short. Now that's failure, as this team's captain points out each and every October.




Or if a team's payroll is the second highest in the history of baseball and has won only two(**) championships in the last 94 years, yup, I'd call that not only a failure but a failure of epic proportions, "Now that's failure".
 

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Loved the game and especially the ending, Ray Lewis was one of the best players ever at his position and a great human being who changed his life around for the better and a true role model in sports, where very few guys ever will be. Congrats Mr. Lewis! Well deserved win on your way out :thumb:

On another note, so much for M8's warning....
 

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Man Oh Man Ray Lewis has Preacher written all over him in his next profession and would not surprise me a bit to see him as one....just a great great human being! Would love to meet him someday! Thanks for posting that Mr.T, i had not seen that, simply awe inspiring
So true iggy, I loved Lewis's speech at the funeral of Steve Mcnair, probably the most powerful, moving, speech that I have ever witnessed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZtueQ3LQ5s
 
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