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True Scandal of Deflategate Lies in the N.F.L.’s Behavior.....

JOE NOCERA/NY Times Sports said:
John Leonard is a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who roots for the Philadelphia Eagles, listens to sports talk radio when he is exercising, and teaches a course called Measurement and Instrumentation. When the Deflategate story broke after last year’s A.F.C. championship game between the New England Patriots and the Indianapolis Colts, he found himself fixated on it, yearning to dig into it from a scientific point of view.....

Numbers in hand, Leonard went to work. He bought the same gauges the N.F.L. used to measure p.s.i. levels. He bought N.F.L.-quality footballs. He replicated the temperatures of the locker room, and the colder field. And so on. When he was done, he concluded that Exponent had made a series of basic errors. Leonard’s work showed the exact opposite of Exponent’s conclusions: The drop in the Patriots’ footballs’ p.s.i was consistent with the Ideal Gas Law; the smaller drop in pressure in the Colts’ balls was not. (Leonard surmises that because the Colts’ balls were tested after the Patriots’ balls, they had warmed up again.).

By early November, he had a PowerPoint presentation with more than 140 slides. By the end of the month, he had given two lectures about Deflategate, the second of which he had videotaped and posted on YouTube. A viewer who watched the lengthy lecture edited it down to a crisp 15 minutes; Leonard agreed to let him post the edited version.

The edited lecture went up on YouTube on Dec. 1 and has been viewed more than 17,000 times (as of tonight has 23,374 Views). It is utterly convincing. Leonard told me that if an M.I.T. undergraduate made the kinds of mistakes that Exponent made, “I would force them to repeat the experiment and correct the analysis.” Based on his study of the data, Leonard now says: “I am convinced that no deflation occurred and that the Patriots are innocent. It never happened.”

He is hardly the only scientist to take that position. As Dan Wetzel pointed out in a recent Yahoo Sports column, scientists at Carnegie Mellon, the University of Chicago, Boston College, Rockefeller University, the University of Illinois and Bowdoin College — and others — have all come to the same conclusion......

In truth, the other owners’ resentment of the Patriots went beyond Spygate. In a league built for parity, the Patriots have become the football version of the old Yankees. They are never rebuilding, and always contending. There was resentment over Kraft’s Svengali-like hold on Goodell. And there was jealousy over the Patriots’ success. Although Kraft runs perhaps the most stable franchise in the N.F.L. — who else has had the same coach for 16 years? — many owners were convinced that the team’s success could only be explained by cheating. With the dour, unlikable Belichick as the coach, it was easy enough to believe. After all, he had run a spying operation.

Deflategate was their revenge. Taken at face value, slightly deflated footballs hardly merit the kind of harsh punishment Goodell meted out. In 2012, the San Diego Chargers were caught using “grip enhancing” towels; a fine of $20,000 was levied, and that was only because an equipment manager was said to have ignored a referee’s instruction. (The fine was later overturned.)

And the underinflated balls — if they were underinflated — certainly didn’t affect the game. In the first half, using the supposedly underinflated footballs, Brady and the Patriots took a 17-7 lead. In the second half, with the balls reset at the legal 12.5 p.s.i., the Pats scored 28 consecutive points, making the final score, 45-7.....

On Sunday, when the Patriots play the Broncos in Denver, the temperature is expected to be in the mid-40s, a little lower than the temperature in Foxborough, Mass., for last year’s A.F.C. championship game. There is likely to be some precipitation, just as there was last year, which will also affect the footballs.

At the start of the game, the Patriots’ footballs will be set at the lowest allowable p.s.i., just the way Brady likes them. At halftime, they will be lower, probably significantly lower.

After all, that’s what science predicts. And you can’t ignore the laws of science, unless, of course, you’re the N.F.L.

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Carolina -3.5 over Arizona.

My sure shot pick is The Cheatriots -3.5 over Denver, this game is over before it even started, there is no way in hell that the Broncos have a slimmer of a chance in this game, the Cheatriots with their very creative ways of cheating are simply unbeatable.
 

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Oh S**t, you were hacked again :eek:
My sure shot pick is The Cheatriots -3.5 over Denver, this game is over before it even started, there is no way in hell that the Broncos have a slimmer of a chance in this game, the Cheatriots with their very creative ways of cheating are simply unbeatable.
 

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First Joe gets hacked yesterday, he has repeated over and over he would never ever pick the cheatriots and did so therefore someone hacked his account, and now it looks like sharkmans account was hacked today....i would not be surprised if it was Ispartcus again :lol:


The Broncos would have a better chance if they sat Manning....
"Cheating is Good"...Cheating bring us championships, cheating brings us Super Bowls!!! :nod: :lol: :thumb:
 

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Maybe Joe t. is using some reverse psychology or something. Since the Cheatriots have won nearly every game he picked them to lose, maybe he figures that by picking them to win they'll end up losing! :D
 

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BOYZZZZ!!

Congrats to Thee Denver Broncos on defeating those cheating sob's from chow-duh town. Justice has been served.:thumb:

That ORANGE CRUSH Defense is unbelievable, led by one time Dallas Cowboy Great and All-Pro, Demarcus Ware. My second favorite team is going to the Super Bowl :thumb:
 

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Denver defense is very good. Brady was under a lot of pressure and when you put inside pressure on any aging QB it is never going to be pretty. However Denver will have the same problem in the Super Bowl and their defense is going to have to win the game.

Gronkowski has been consistently awesome in big games for Pats, despite constant double coverage and today was more of the same. He is by far the best TE in the NFL and one of the best of all time.
 

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The stage is eerily familiar to when Elway and the Bronco's were the underdogs to a young Brett Favre led Packers team in suberbowl XXXII. Now we have Manning and the Bronco's who have Manning ending a HOF career versus a great young QB in Cam Newton and the Panthers, so anything can happen, although i agree, Carolina is going to be hard to beat.
 

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Congrats to the Broncos & Panthers!

Belichick's at Gillette Stadium today said:
...turn the page here and move on, and start the process all over again. That's where we're at....

Bill Belichick: All Patriots feel like they could have done better


Mike Reiss/ESPN said:
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- One day after New England Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski said he felt he cost the team a chance to win the AFC Championship Game by missing an extra point in the first quarter, coach Bill Belichick said Sunday's 20-18 loss to the Denver Broncos didn't fall on any single player. "Steve is a great kicker. He had a great year for us," Belichick said in his early-morning news conference at Gillette Stadium. "I think every coach or player who participated in the game wishes there was a couple things they could have done differently. I feel that way. Everybody I've talked to feels that way. I can't imagine that anyone who participated in the game doesn't feel that way. ... I feel like it's my fault, I'm sure all the other players who played feel like it's their fault."....

You know how when you have the Flu, and you're sick for days.....this may take months.....

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Have to comment... WTF, Coldplay at the halftime show. Do any NFL fans listen to Coldplay? Just as bad as having Sting play at a basketball game or Beiber at the Grey cup.
 

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Have to comment... WTF, Coldplay at the halftime show. Do any NFL fans listen to Coldplay? Just as bad as having Sting play at a basketball game or Beiber at the Grey cup.

I agree. I'm still scratching my head over that decision. Why didn't they get Billy Joel or something?
 

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Broncos send rookie Ryan Murphy home after being detained by police......

ESPN News said:
Denver Broncos rookie safety Ryan Murphy and his brother were detained and questioned Tuesday as part of a prostitution sting in San Jose, California.

Murphy eventually was released and was not charged in the incident. The Broncos have sent Murphy home.

"Although practice squad safety Ryan Murphy was not cited by police, we decided it was best for the team if we continued our preparations for Super Bowl 50 without him," Broncos coach Gary Kubiak said in a statement. "Ryan is returning to Denver but his status as a practice squad player has not changed at this time."

The San Jose Mercury News reported that the sting involved Murphy's brother and was conducted by the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Police. The paper, citing sources, said the pair was questioned by sheriff's deputies Tuesday evening at a Motel 6 in north San Jose.

Murphy's brother, according to multiple reports, was cited for solicitation....



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NFL 2016 Hall of Fame Class.....

NFL.com said:
Brett Favre stood apart throughout his NFL career. It only makes sense that he didn't have to wait long to join other legends in Canton, Ohio.

Tony Dungy, Kevin Greene, Marvin Harrison, Orlando Pace, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., Ken Stabler and Dick Stanfel will join Favre in the 2016 Pro Football Hall of Fame class, announced Saturday night at NFL Honors. Stabler and Stanfel were nominated by the Seniors Committee. DeBartolo, the former 49ers owner, was enshrined as a nominee of the new Contributor Committee.

Noticeably absent from the list: first ballot options Terrell Owens and Alan Faneca. Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis were also forced to wait another year for potential enshrinement. But Saturday's news was all about the eight men who will be immortalized in August with other football immortals.

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