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Ha ha ha !!!

I bear witness to the fact that GHG never accepted Iggy`s offer of a bet.

Yeah, that carries a lot of weight - from a poster who has zero credibility and has been repeatedly exposed as a fraud

You must also have trouble reading this:

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Hockey-Thread&p=520857&viewfull=1#post520857

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Hockey-Thread&p=520902&viewfull=1#post520902

Fortunately, MERB posters can read and can draw their own conclusions.
 

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you have mine to, i have never once welshed on a bet, and wont now, just dont try to change things once you agreed to it. ok i will post the bet now , after you agree to it, its a done deal, for all to see, so there will be proof and no changes allowed[/COLOR]


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agreed



04-05-2010 04:09 PM
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just letting you know i made one small edit, i put the word discounted in the bet # 2 paragraph, as in free/discounted tics

I'm confused. It's pretty clear from this thread that the two of you agreed to a bet. So what's the argument? Iggy clearly states "after you agree to it, it's a done deal " not "it's a done deal after I post it."

I bear witness to the fact that GHG never accepted Iggy's offer of a bet.
Do you have access to their PM boxes?
 
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Yeah, that carries a lot of weight - from a poster who has zero credibility and has been repeatedly exposed as a fraud.

Do you think you have an ounce of credibility, you dumbass? LOL!!!!!!! :D

Considering the numerous times you've been suspended for breaking the rules, you should take a good look in the mirror before calling others frauds.
 

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I hadn`t seen GHG`s posts above, but they make it very clear that the bet was made. A bookie I knew wouldn`t take a new customer if that person was even a friend of a stiffer. It`s obvious and unfortunate that GBG risked his money against nothing. Igna and Joe T. are truly soulmates.
 

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I hadn't seen GHG's posts above, but they make it very clear that the bet was made. A bookie I knew wouldn't take a new customer if that person was even a friend of a stiffer. It's obvious and unfortunate that GBG risked his money against nothing. Igna and Joe T. are truly soulmates.

I see that you have collected enough empty cans to buy yourself a internet card, how is the coffee at the cafe that you are at?.:D
 

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... ok, back to Hockey! Why the F! are the a-holes of the NHL crapping on PK Subban. A trash talking, creative skilled rushing defenseman who happens to be of color. The Weasel and Daley should F'ing embrace PK and turn him into the league's posterchild for the next generation of players, especially the US markets. A-holes like Mike Richards are just PO'ed the kid can trash talk so well that they're knocked off their game and rendered useless. So what does Richards and Sid do, cry to the media saying rookies have to earn respect before... what, playing an incredible game that neutralizes theirs. HAHA Wonder what they're gonna say to gag PK next yr when he's no longer a rookie.

Of course, Montreal's spineless coach should defend his players and stop worrying about what other ppl say... maybe then PK will produce more and develop into the superstar he's destined to be.

BTW, I recall Richards shooting his mouth off and leveling ppl with low checks in his rookie season too. Mind you he had Bobby Clarke covering his ass telling the media Richards was simply playing an upbeat game.

PK haters, don't hate... appreciate!
 

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PK's own teammates are fed up with his behaviour. Mostly the veterans. A few games ago, Scott Gomez gave him the cold shoulder after PK won the game in OT by scoring the winning goal. Some have compared PK's presence in the locker room to Gary Carter's when he used to play with the Expos. Other players resented him being a hot dog.
 

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Since you don’t intend to pay up on a wager I agreed to and you acknowledged publicly:

Originally Posted by lgna69xxx
PS. Both ghg and myself agreed in a pm that we both will give our word as to pay up in full instead of having a 3rd party hold the $.


I propose another way of settling. I don’t want your tickets – instead I want you to donate them to any Boys and Girls Club in the Montreal region:

http://www.bgccan.com/clubresults.asp?L=E&location=QC

If this is not acceptable, call the Habs marketing department [(514) 925-2525], I’m sure they can provide a list of suitable organizations that will accept the tickets.
 
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PK's own teammates are fed up with his behaviour. Mostly the veterans. A few games ago, Scott Gomez gave him the cold shoulder after PK won the game in OT by scoring the winning goal. Some have compared PK's presence in the locker room to Gary Carter's when he used to play with the Expos. Other players resented him being a hot dog.
Well, not sure how you feel about a $7M player producing like an AHL L3 Centre but as far as I'm concerned Gomez should feel fortunate some lame GM (Gainey) bailed his behind outta Broadway. There's a reason Gomez doesn't get a letter and that has to be one of them, lack of class, followed by lack of leadership and no sense of comradery! Leaving PK high n dry was a classless move by a so-called Veteran in light of PK scoring the winner in OT. Celebrate GOMEZ! Pathetic sourgrapes Gomez!

How do you bottle up charisma and sheer enthusiasm - every skilled player should be allowed to showcase a little personality. It's the NHL, not the PGA! That's my POV... damn shame some so-called vets of the game (coaches and players) are letting PK take heat. I say F! 'em all... PK should be himself.

PK is like the defenseman version of Corey Perry, physical, skilled, a yapper/agitator. It's a scary package that I love!
 

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Well, not sure how you feel about a $7M player producing like an AHL L3 Centre but as far as I'm concerned Gomez should feel fortunate some lame GM (Gainey) bailed his behind outta Broadway. There's a reason Gomez doesn't get a letter and that has to be one of them, lack of class, followed by lack of leadership and no sense of comradery! Leaving PK high n dry was a classless move by a so-called Veteran in light of PK scoring the winner in OT. Celebrate GOMEZ! Pathetic sourgrapes Gomez!

I agree with you on all counts except for one thing: Gainey didn't 'bail' Gomez' ass out of Broadway. He was going to get paid no matter what. Gainey bailed Sather's ass. It still astonishes me how on earth Glen Sather can still hang on to his job. Unbelieavable!

Gomez stealing $8 million (not $7 million) is a complete joke! Even worse the fact the Rangers were able to find someone to take on his contract, let alone get players in return for him. A total joke!

I'll admit that he skates well & he's a very good passer. However, he wouldn't be able to score even if Aunt Jemima would be between the pipes. You don't give $8 million to a player who can't score goals. Period.

I agree that his leadership skills suck big time & he looked like a total prick at the way he dissed PK. I saw it last year at the beginning of the season when he got interviewed by the HNIC panel after a game. One guy asked him what he thought about people referring to his line as The Smurfs (Gomez-Gionta-Cammalleri). He looked absolutely pissed & replied that the real smurfs are Cammalleri & Gionta since he's taller than they are. Classy!

I actually like PK Subban, even though he's not playing for my favorite team. The guy has personality & he's a damn good young hockey player. I love his exhuberance & his energy. He reminds me a bit of Ovechkin in that department. The NHL should have more character players like him. I'd take him on my team anytime!

(Considering all the players the habs fans have booed over the years....just ask Carey Price & Patrice Brisebois.....i'm very surprised there's no one booing Gomez whenever he touches the puck. Astonishing!
 
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As far as this bet goes here is my take and I will quote Iggy's PM as noted above -

"i will post the bet for your approval, let me no amigo,"

As far as I can see this bet was never posted for confirmation therefor it is not binding, in other words this is not a legal bet.

Also we do not know how many PM's regarding the bet where exchanged so we do not know the whole story, no doubt this would get tossed in a court of law if it ever went to trial.

Iggy wins this one.
 
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See , where YOU , ghg, rumples or anyone else has zero credibility with this is ghg never ONCE made it official like we both agreed to do in a pm, and until then it is not a bet, it is exactly like Doc said.

I waited and waited AFTER ghg had to have wording changed because he wouldnt take the orginal bet straight up, against better judgement i decided to change the wording of the bets to his liking and all i asked was for him to confirm the bet publicly and i would also and there you have it, but nope he didnt and i was sick of asking so the bet never took place, he knows full well what he was to do for this to be a real bet, and he did nothing about it, ON PURPOSE!

Doc, yes i will have your $100 if the Leafs dont make the playoffs, lol...... btw that was a bet between Doc and myself thru msn messenger in case you wanna know, no witnesses and thats fine because iv'e known Doc for a few years now, meet up with him for drinks, food, and good conversation when he is in town, just like i do with others from Merb, gone to hockey games and have had many conversations with him about things not just to do with sports or the hobby, in other words, he is a good friend, and friends have zero problems betting that way, at least i dont, but if you think im gonna bet with ghg, a total stranger, w/o having him publically acknowledge the bet like asked, your more nuts than he is. It was a proposed bet in a public forum, therefore it publicly has to be agreed to in that same public forum.

Now, keep your fued with Mr.T to you and he, you have NO CLUE what your talking about. Would you pay a total stranger when he says you owe him from a bet that was never made?

By the way, Anon, i could tell everyone you and i made a $500 bet earlier today as to what the super bowl matchup was gonna be this year, i picked Green Bay vs. Pitt, you chose GB vs. NY.... but we didnt confirm the bet publicly in a post like we were supposed to do, but Screw It, PAY ME ANYWAYS!!!

Now, before Mod8 has had enuff, lets get back to hockey and leave this BS behind.

I hadn't seen GHG's posts above, but they make it very clear that the bet was made. A bookie I knew wouldn't take a new customer if that person was even a friend of a stiffer. It's obvious and unfortunate that GBG risked his money against nothing. Igna and Joe T. are truly soulmates.
 
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See , where YOU , ghg, rumples or anyone else has zero credibility with this is ghg never ONCE made it official like we both agreed to do in a pm, and until then it is not a bet, it is exactly like Doc said.

I waited and waited AFTER ghg had to have wording changed because he wouldnt take the orginal bet straight up, against better judgement i decided to change the wording of the bets to his liking and all i asked was for him to confirm the bet publicly and i would also and there you have it, but nope he didnt and i was sick of asking so the bet never took place, he knows full well what he was to do for this to be a real bet, and he did nothing about it, ON PURPOSE!

Doc, yes i will have your $100 if the Leafs dont make the playoffs, lol...... btw that was a bet between Doc and myself thru msn messenger in case you wanna know, no witnesses and thats fine because iv'e known Doc for a few years now, meet up with him for drinks, food, and good conversation when he is in town, just like i do with others from Merb, gone to hockey games and have had many conversations with him about things not just to do with sports or the hobby, in other words, he is a good friend, and friends have zero problems betting that way, at least i dont, but if you think im gonna bet with ghg, a total stranger, w/o having him publically acknowledge the bet like asked, "your more nuts than he is". It was a proposed bet in a public forum, therefore it publicly has to be agreed to in that same public forum.

Yes I can confirm that he is indeed nuts on top of being penniless and living from paycheque to paycheque, and yes I do agree that you should never bet with a person who you have never met.

Now lets get back to hockey.
 
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As the unofficial arbitrator sees it..........

Iggy & GHG needed one another to publicly confirm (on the board) that they had made a personal wager with one another. Neither of them ever did that. Which means that they never entered a contract since to seal the deal, they had to publicly aknowledge it, per rules that were previously set in order for the wager to be made official.

Therefore, no contract was made. Which means no official wager was ever made, nor confirmed.

All GHG had to do was publicly aknowledge the wager, as requested by the party he had arranged to make the wager with. He never did, therefore the wager never existed. As the old saying goes "You snooze, you lose."
 

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I agree with you on all counts except for one thing: Gainey didn't 'bail' Gomez' ass out of Broadway. He was going to get paid no matter what. Gainey bailed Sather's ass. It still astonishes me how on earth Glen Sather can still hang on to his job. Unbelieavable!
You know Sather must have dirt on the MSG CEO... Good ol' NHL Boys Club! But you're right about Gainey bailing Slats...

You're a Buds fan right Doc? I haven't dug into your Hockey history, just your SP history. haha
 

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You're a Buds fan right Doc? I haven't dug into your Hockey history, just your SP history. haha

Yes indeed. I grew up being a Boston Bruins fan. My heroes back then were the likes of Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Gerry Cheevers & the rest of the bunch. However, the day Bobby signed with Chicago & then Phil getting traded to the Rangers, well....that changed everything. I was still in my pre-teens when this happened.

I became a Leafs fan the night Lanny McDonald's overtime goal eliminated the heavily favored NY Islanders in game 7. I fell in love with that team: Mike Palmateer, Sittler, McDonald, Turnbull, Williams, Salming, coach Roger Neilsen, etc.

But things took a turn for the worse a year or two later when Lanny McDonald was sent to the Colorado Rockies by Punch Imlach. Things took a nosedive from then on, and once again, i was looking for a team to cheer for & be proud of. Even though i still was pulling for my Buds (even though Harrold Ballard was doing everything it seemed to destroy the team), i took a liking to such teams as the Nordiques over the 80's. I loved watching the likes of Peter Stastny, Dale Hunter, Michel Goulet & coach Michel Bergeron. However, my #1 allegiance still was with the Leafs, and at one point in a playoffs, i was pulling for the underdog Habs, led by the unknown Steve Penney. During the infamous 'Good Friday Brawl' game, i was actually pulling for the Habs during those playoffs. Only during the playoffs, that is.....my favorite team was still the Leafs.

However, a couple of my favorite players on the Habs retired or were traded away, and i realized i still loved my Maple Leafs. They were very bad during that decade, but they were still loveable as hell & always gave it their all. How could you not root for John Brophy? Motor City Smitty? Wendel Clark? I just loved those teams!

In the early 90's, Cliff Fletcher was hired as GM. He then lured Pat Burns away from the Habs, made a great trade with Calgary & obtained Doug Gilmour, and the team was finally on its way to Cup contention. My allegiance to the Buds was 100%, and they came one game from playing in the Stanley Cup playoffs in 1993. What a final we could have had: the Leafs vs. the Habs. It would have been great, but a no-call by Kerry Fraser in game 6 ruined it. And then a man named Gretzky took care of business at Maple Leafs Gardens in game 7. The Leafs' elimination broke my heart, but from then on, i've continued being a die-hard Leafs fan. They continued to contend for several years, but often got eliminated in the Conference final by the likes of Vancouver & other teams. They had some great years under Pat Quinn & Ken Dryden as the team's president. However, things began to take a turn for the worse once again when they hired the inexperienced John Ferguson Jr. as the team's GM. What a huge mistake that turned out to be!

However, i was once a Maple Leafs fan....i'm still a Maple Leafs fan.....and always be a Maple Leafs fan. Yes, i may be tempted to pull for certain teams during the playoffs (when the Leafs are out), but that doesn't mean i've switched allegiance.
 

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However, i was once a Maple Leafs fan....i'm still a Maple Leafs fan.....and always be a Maple Leafs fan. Yes, i may be tempted to pull for certain teams during the playoffs (when the Leafs are out), but that doesn't mean i've switched allegiance.
I understand... please stay away from me now. LOL

Hey, agree with you... those teams you listed were great to watch... common thread... they could all brawl! I miss the days of bench clearing brawls. Surprised the fighting aspect of the game never drew the WWE/WWF fans... perhaps if the NHL allowed chairs in the fights... who knows for sure.

I follow the Leafs because Burke is at the helm. But I have to admit the rebuilding is painful to watch this time around with Burke. When he did it in Hartford, Vancity, Ana it was brilliant! My new GM to follow is Yzerman + the Bolts. Smart moves and smart $$ being spent to revive a good club left spinning its wheels.
 

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Another Hab that got away

Craig Conroy's hockey career approaches its end

by Eric Duhatschek (The Globe and Mail)

Craig Conroy’s distinguished 1,009-game NHL career almost certainly came to an end Wednesday morning when the Calgary Flames’ centre cleared waivers and was given a choice between two comparatively unappetizing options: Either report to the team’s AHL affiliate in Abbotsford to work with the organization’s young players for the duration of his one-year, $500,000 contract; or retire.

The team has given Conroy until the end of this weekend's all-star break to ponder his options but he could make his decision as early as Thursday.

Conroy met with interim general manager Jay Feaster and team president Ken King late this morning to review his future, but left the building without talking to reporters. His teammates, including Jarome Iginla, were equally tight-lipped about his future, wanting to let the popular and garrulous Conroy speak for himself. However, they all stressed what a wonderful teammate and friend he was and that these were difficult times for him.

Feaster called it “a tough day” and noted that when he was running the Tampa Bay Lightning, he needed to make a similar tough call about Dave Andreychuk’s future, not long after Andreychuk captained the team to the Stanley Cup.

Essentially, Feaster said that Conroy went on waivers because the team needed the roster spot. Soon after the all-star break, they expect to activate defenceman Steve Staois from injured reserve. Moreover, they want to give a handful of their younger forwards from Abbotsford cameos in the final third of the season to give them a taste of NHL life and reward them for their work and development this season.

Feaster contacted teams around the league to see if there was any interest in Conroy’s services, but found no takers for what would have been minimal dollars (a little over $200,000 for the rest of the season).

Conroy, a former middle-round Montreal Canadiens’ draft choice, forged a successful 15-year NHL career that included 182 goals and 542 points. He was a two-time finalist for the Selke Trophy, awarded the NHL’s top defensive player. He was also considered a moderating voice in the team’s dressing room, lightening the mood during the darkest days of the Flames’ struggles this season.

If Conroy retires, he will have no shortage of post-career opportunities. James Duthie, the TSN host, has long joked he would be a member of future TSN panels. It is also thought Conroy could land a place as a team ambassador as the Flames revamp their front office following Darryl Sutter's resignation.

Craig Conroy’s distinguished 1,009-game NHL career almost certainly came to an end Wednesday morning when the Calgary Flames’ centre cleared waivers and was given a choice between two comparatively unappetizing options: Either report to the team’s AHL affiliate in Abbotsford to work with the organization’s young players for the duration of his one-year, $500,000 contract; or retire.

The team has given Conroy until the end of this weekend's all-star break to ponder his options but he could make his decision as early as Thursday.

Conroy met with interim general manager Jay Feaster and team president Ken King late this morning to review his future, but left the building without talking to reporters. His teammates, including Jarome Iginla, were equally tight-lipped about his future, wanting to let the popular and garrulous Conroy speak for himself. However, they all stressed what a wonderful teammate and friend he was and that these were difficult times for him.

Feaster called it “a tough day” and noted that when he was running the Tampa Bay Lightning, he needed to make a similar tough call about Dave Andreychuk’s future, not long after Andreychuk captained the team to the Stanley Cup.

Essentially, Feaster said that Conroy went on waivers because the team needed the roster spot. Soon after the all-star break, they expect to activate defenceman Steve Staois from injured reserve. Moreover, they want to give a handful of their younger forwards from Abbotsford cameos in the final third of the season to give them a taste of NHL life and reward them for their work and development this season.

Feaster contacted teams around the league to see if there was any interest in Conroy’s services, but found no takers for what would have been minimal dollars (a little over $200,000 for the rest of the season).

Conroy, a former middle-round Montreal Canadiens’ draft choice, forged a successful 15-year NHL career that included 182 goals and 542 points. He was a two-time finalist for the Selke Trophy, awarded the NHL’s top defensive player. He was also considered a moderating voice in the team’s dressing room, lightening the mood during the darkest days of the Flames’ struggles this season.

If Conroy retires, he will have no shortage of post-career opportunities. James Duthie, the TSN host, has long joked he would be a member of future TSN panels. It is also thought Conroy could land a place as a team ambassador as the Flames revamp their front office following Darryl Sutter's resignation.
 

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Very interesting poll of NHL players conducted by the CBC and the NHLPA.

Some of the highlights:

Overall the two players most respected in just about every category are Sidney Crosby and Pavel Datsyuk. Both well deserved.

The poll confirmed that the team NHL players would most like to play for is Detroit. Again, no surprise. Coming in a very respectable 4th in this question was Tampa Bay, led by first year topnotch GM and former Wing great Stevie Y. The 3 teams NHL players would LEAST like to play for are Edmonton, Atlanta and Toronto.

Mike Babcock of Detroit was ranked #2 in the list of favorite coaches, with Guy Boucher of TBay # 4. Ron Wilson was overwhelmingly voted the least popular coach in the entire NHL.

The player that would be best to start a new franchise: NHL players voted Sidney Crosby # 1 and 40 year old (very soon to be 41) Nick Lidstrom # 2. These two players command amazing respect from their peers and also ranked 1 and 2 in the most intelligent category. They ALSO ranked 1 and 2 in the Best Role Model category.

Toughest to play against: # 1 Crosby, #2 Datsyuk.

Hardest to take the puck from: # 1 Datsyuk

Cleanest player list was dominated by the Red Wings: # 1 Datsyuk # 2 Lidstrom # 5 Zetterberg.

Lots of good reading on this list...and the results MEAN something because the opinions are those of the players themselves.

The names that kept cropping up over and over were Crosby, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Ovechkin (although not as high as you might expect) and Chara.
 
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