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A plus/minus of +1 is horrific? Really?

Ok, if you say so. :confused:

When you're the 2nd leading scorer in the league and it's taken you 2.5 months to get to a positive +/- rating then yea, you're not a very good 2 way player. Nevermind his career -22 mark but I know, Leaf's fan will say this stat means nothing, blah, blah, blah, but I suppose when your a team that gives up more goals than they score, 94-91 as of now, then you would say it's not a valid stat. He reminds alot of Milan Lucic, who I'm not really a big fan of by the way, but Lucic is known for his slacking in the defensive zone and just waiting for someone else to get the puck out to him. On a positive note I will say that Kessel has improved, I mean his career +/- ratings have been atrocious so he has definitely shown some improvement there. Will be interesting to see if he finishes the season in the positive or negative.
 

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Jealous of what? The Bruins won the Stanley Cup last year, the Leafs haven't made the NHL finals in almost 45 years. The last time they won the Stanley cup was in 1967, almost a half century ago, this is the longest-active championship drought in the NHL. Forget winning the Stanley cup, the Leafs haven't even made it to the playoffs for almost a decade now, 2003/2004. Jealous of what?

They're jealous that Phil Kessel didn't want to play in Boston anymore & agreed to play in the world's greatest city, Toronto. They're also jealous that Toronto wound up with the much better player.

As for the '1967' crap, i don't really care since i live in the present & look forward to the future. With the Doc, whatever happened in the past stays in the past. You know, little man, you have to look ahead in life in order to go forward. Too many make the mistake of living in the past. Take this as a lesson from an ol' pro. ;)
 

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When you're the 2nd leading scorer in the league and it's taken you 2.5 months to get to a positive +/- rating then yea, you're not a very good 2 way player. Nevermind his career -22 mark but I know, Leaf's fan will say this stat means nothing, blah, blah, blah, but I suppose when your a team that gives up more goals than they score, 94-91 as of now, then you would say it's not a valid stat. He reminds alot of Milan Lucic, who I'm not really a big fan of by the way, but Lucic is known for his slacking in the defensive zone and just waiting for someone else to get the puck out to him. On a positive note I will say that Kessel has improved, I mean his career +/- ratings have been atrocious so he has definitely shown some improvement there. Will be interesting to see if he finishes the season in the positive or negative.

Sure, whatever you say. You must be right again. Having a plus/minus rating of +1 is absolutely horrific, as you stated. You're the resident hockey expert. ;)
 

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Sure, whatever you say. You must be right again. Having a plus/minus rating of +1 is absolutely horrific, as you stated. You're the resident hockey expert. ;)

Glad to see you're finally coming around ;) Now back to your sauce.
 

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You guys who do not watch #81 day in day out just do not understand how good of a 2 way player he has become since the last half of the 2010/2011 season and all of this season, if you had then you would not even bring it up, because frankly, you could not be more wrong about him. We who watch him every game clearly have seen him progress from a one dimensional player, which btw, thats what he was in boston as well but had a better +/- because he had a better overall team around him at the time, to a complete player now. It is the reason he has been a better than ppg player in his last 60 games because defense provides offense and in Phil's case it could not be more true. Watch a national tv game and you will hear non Leafs announcers say the exact same thing we all have seen the last 60 games, he uses his speed to backcheck and it affords him and his team much more scoring chances going the other way, and it is all because he has matured since his days in beantown and is now a complete 2 way player and is a great teammate in and out of the dressing room and most importantly, on the ice. You can disagree all you want but the truth remains, well, TRUE. Kessel has simply, "grown up" and elevated his game and the future looks scary bright for one #81 in the Blue and White.

When you're the 2nd leading scorer in the league and it's taken you 2.5 months to get to a positive +/- rating then yea, you're not a very good 2 way player. Nevermind his career -22 mark but I know, Leaf's fan will say this stat means nothing, blah, blah, blah, but I suppose when your a team that gives up more goals than they score, 94-91 as of now, then you would say it's not a valid stat. He reminds alot of Milan Lucic, who I'm not really a big fan of by the way, but Lucic is known for his slacking in the defensive zone and just waiting for someone else to get the puck out to him. On a positive note I will say that Kessel has improved, I mean his career +/- ratings have been atrocious.
 

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You guys who do not watch #81 day in day out just do not understand how good of a 2 way player he has become since the last half of the 2010/2011 season and all of this season, if you had then you would not even bring it up, because frankly, you could not be more wrong about him. We who watch him every game clearly have seen him progress from a one dimensional player, which btw, thats what he was in boston as well but had a better +/- because he had a better overall team around him at the time, to a complete player now. It is the reason he has been a better than ppg player in his last 60 games because defense provides offense and in Phil's case it could not be more true. Watch a national tv game and you will hear non Leafs announcers say the exact same thing we all have seen the last 60 games, he uses his speed to backcheck and it affords him and his team much more scoring chances going the other way, and it is all because he has matured since his days in beantown and is now a complete 2 way player and is a great teammate in and out of the dressing room and most importantly, on the ice. You can disagree all you want but the truth remains, well, TRUE. Kessel has simply, "grown up" and elevated his game and the future looks scary bright for one #81 in the Blue and White.

Did you not read my last sentence? This is the unedited version for you.

On a positive note I will say that Kessel has improved, I mean his career +/- ratings have been atrocious so he has definitely shown some improvement there.
 

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Sure i read it Special K my man, but i also read the other part and thats what i was responding to, lol. Here is the unedited version for you. And for the record, i do not care if Kessel ends the season a plus/minus because it does not tell anything about any one player, thus my Eric Staal reference earlier, where he is something like a minus 17 this season, but guess what? Every team would LOVE to have a Eric Staal.


When you're the 2nd leading scorer in the league and it's taken you 2.5 months to get to a positive +/- rating then yea, you're not a very good 2 way player. Nevermind his career -22 mark but I know, Leaf's fan will say this stat means nothing, blah, blah, blah, but I suppose when your a team that gives up more goals than they score, 94-91 as of now, then you would say it's not a valid stat. He reminds alot of Milan Lucic, who I'm not really a big fan of by the way, but Lucic is known for his slacking in the defensive zone and just waiting for someone else to get the puck out to him.
 

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As for the '1967' crap, i don't really care since i live in the present & look forward to the future. With the Doc, whatever happened in the past stays in the past. You know, little man, you have to look ahead in life in order to go forward. Too many make the mistake of living in the past. Take this as a lesson from an ol' pro. ;)

Nice try old man, this was a very cute effort. Maybe at your age you can't remember anything from the past but in hockey and everything else in life, history means everything! When it comes to War, for example, history means everything. Right now every Israeli General is using the historical Israeli-Lebanese war of 2006 as their blueprint to create any future military strategy. They have to analyze that past war, they have no choice unless they want to face the same bad results. Had George Bush been wise enough to look at the history of what Afganistan did to Russia, the Americans wouldn't be facing the consequences that they are facing right now on that land. I guess he had your way of thinking, all great minds think alike :crazy:

Like I said, in hockey, history also means everything. Notice how when teams face off in the playoffs, players of the opposing team will often make the following comments about the other team's history, "We know what their management is capable of, they have decades of experience and years of success, they know how to adjust", "We know what their team is capable of, they have a history of winning, so it doesn't matter if they are the underdogs in this series, we won't look at it this way", "He's a veteran player, we've seen him win the cup 4 years ago, so it doesn't matter if he played bad the last two series, he will remain our main defensive focus next game", "They have a history of coming back when down in a series, they've come back every year", " He's a winner based on his history", "he's a loser based on his history". If you don't understand the importance of history in hockey then you just don't understand the game. Toronto has been losing since 1967, they have a very long history of failure, almost a half century of failure, this means everything to anyone who understands anything about the game. There's a reason for why they say "some teams are winners and some teams are just plain old losers." Nobody in America knows that the Leafs even exist, Toronto hasn't been a threat to them for a very fucking long time. They know the Nashville Predators better than they know the Leafs, and here you are dedicating countless months of typing about a team that hasn't won dick for close to a half century. And you say Rumple is delusional:rolleyes:

They're jealous that Phil Kessel didn't want to play in Boston anymore & agreed to play in the world's greatest city, Toronto. They're also jealous that Toronto wound up with the much better player.

The Bruins won the Stanley Cup after Kessel left, the Leafs didn't even make the playoffs with him. And you claim Rumple doesnt know anything about hockey:confused:. You're just good at redundantly blabbering without any real wisdom. A true master of taking up unnecessary thread space.

As for your claim that Toronto is the world's greatest city just remember one thing old-timer, everyone from Toronto comes to Montreal to party but no one from Montreal ever goes to Toronto to party.

I think it's time for you to change your name from Doc to Student, just in time for the new year. Start fresh, start learning, you still have some remaining years.
 

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Bubbles on HNIC

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As for the '1967' crap, i don't really care since i live in the present & look forward to the future. With the Doc, whatever happened in the past stays in the past. You know, little man, you have to look ahead in life in order to go forward. Too many make the mistake of living in the past. Take this as a lesson from an ol' pro. ;)
No, but you sure cared long enough about the 1918 crap. Pot, meet kettle. Yep, you are an old pro alright.
 

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Kaberle deal Canadiens GM's last stand?

by Bruce Garrioch, QMI Agency

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OTTAWA - Pierre Gauthier’s latest move could be his last.

The Canadiens GM is either desperate or on thin ice after acquiring defenceman Tomas Kaberle and his $4.25-million cap hit for two more seasons from the Hurricanes on Friday in exchange for blueliner Jaroslav Spacek, a potential unrestricted free agent next July.

The decision to make the move has left many believing that Gauthier is through waiting for injured defenceman Andrei Markov, who had surgery again on his injured knee last week.

While he’s supposed to return by February, Markov’s chances of playing at all this season have never been more in doubt.

You have to wonder what possessed Gauthier to give the 32-year-old Markov (who played seven games last season) a three-year, $15.75-million contract in the off-season.

Couldn’t Gauthier have offered Markov a deal with incentives for games played in case this happened?

The talk in NHL circles is this decision to acquire Kaberle had better work for Gauthier.

The Habs are hovering around 11th place in the Eastern Conference and if they miss the playoffs after an early exit last spring, you have to think that could be it for Gauthier and coach Jacques Martin.

THIS ’N’ THAT

There was an update on the sale of the Blues during the NHL’s board of governors meetings last week in Pebble Beach, Calif. Chicago businessman Matthew Hulsizer is trying to get the financing in place to complete the purchase of the team and his window of opportunity closes on Dec. 31. Many wonder if it is going to go through ... Since a coaching change hasn’t brought the desired results, Capitals GM George McPhee has been working the phones trying to shake up his struggling club. While the Caps would love to move Alexander Semin, there is no market for a struggling, underachieving winger making too much money these days.

OFF THE GLASS

Don’t think Devils G Martin Brodeur, who could be in his final season, will be going anywhere at the trade deadline as a rental. It’s not like the 38-year-old needs to be dealt so he can win a Stanley Cup before he retires. He already has three rings. He has nothing to prove ... The Bruins will have a decision to make on C Chris Kelly sometime this season. An alternate captain, he’s a UFA July 1 and there’s been speculation in Boston he’ll be signed to a contract extension. There haven’t been any talks with the Bruins yet. The Senators will be keeping a close eye on the situation. Kelly makes his off-season home in Ottawa and it would only make sense for the Senators to try to bring him back if he’s available.

THE FINAL BUZZER

You have to feel for fans of the Blue Jackets (if there are any left). With Columbus sitting in the basement in the Western Conference, coach Scott Arniel is somehow still employed and Craig Patrick was just brought aboard to advise GM Scott Howson. At the very least, many feel Arniel should have been fired and replaced with old Jackets coach Ken Hitchcock. The Blues’ decision to hire Hitchcock has worked wonders in St. Louis. With W David Perron back, the Blues have the chance to make the playoffs ... Amid all the back-slapping and glad-handing that’s gone on with the NHL’s realignment plan, has anybody bothered to ask the NHLPA what it thinks? The players have to approve a major change to the CBA. Just sayin.’

RUMOURS DU JOUR

The self-imposed holiday roster freeze for Brian Burke kicked in Friday, but the Maple Leafs GM might be willing to make moves once it’s lifted. The Leafs could be looking for help in the middle, especially with Tim Connolly struggling with injuries. Columbus C Derick Brassard could be an option. League sources say Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson was spotted at the Marlies game last Saturday in Toronto. Apparently, he was in the corner and didn’t want to be noticed. Brassard has a cap hit of $3.2 million for the next two seasons, so Howson can’t afford to let coach Scott Arniel bury Brassard on the fourth line or in the press box much longer. The situation is going to come to a head and Brassard could certainly make sense for the Leafs ... Nobody is sure what’s wrong with the Kings, but they better find their way out of this mess soon. I’m told GM Dean Lombardi has been one of the most aggressive working the phones and is determined to make changes because he certainly can’t afford to miss the playoffs. He’d move W Dustin Penner in a second. When Kings president Tim Leiwicke and Lombardi ate their words and gave D Drew Doughty a king’s ransom, they talked about winning the Stanley Cup. If they miss the playoffs, you have to wonder what’s going to happen in Tinseltown.

Have a nice Sunday.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Montreal/2011/12/10/19107086.html
 

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BRUCE GARRIOCH articles are purely for laughs and skeet shooting ... pull! he's an ottawa sun guy which speaks volumes. ottawa sun formula goes like this ...
1% fact surrounded by 99% fiction to get other news outlets to pick up his sensationalized stories which makes for great copy.
 

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BRUCE GARRIOCH articles are purely for laughs and skeet shooting ... pull! he's an ottawa sun guy which speaks volumes. ottawa sun formula goes like this ...
1% fact surrounded by 99% fiction to get other news outlets to pick up his sensationalized stories which makes for great copy.

Sounds like Fox News. :lol:
 

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Jimmy Howard, All-Star?

Detroit — If his buddies have anything to do with it, Jimmy Howard is going to the NHL All-Star Game.

The game is Jan. 29 in Ottawa, and Howard isn't on the official ballot, so he's getting voted as a write-in candidate.

But many of Howard's friends from his hometown of Ogdensburg, N.Y., which Howard said is about 45 minutes away, are going online and doing their duty of voting for Howard every day, as often as they can, and hoping to put Howard in his first All-Star Game.

"They're all fired up," Howard said late last week. "They've voting and they all want me there."

Whether Howard gets there remains to be seen (he ranks 11th right now with more than 71,000 votes) but based on his play alone, it'll be tough for the NHL operations department to leave him out of the game.

Few goalies have been better this season.

Howard ranks first in the league in wins (17), tied for second in shutouts (three), second in goals-against average (1.85) and seventh in save percentage (.931).

At 27 years old and in his third NHL season, Howard appears to have found his place in the league: Side by side among the best goalies in the game.

"I just feel comfortable being out there," Howard said. "This is my third year here and I feel I can be a difference-maker out there.

"I had confidence coming out of the playoffs last year and I've just tried to keep it going."

A turning point likely came after Howard signed a two-year contract worth $4.5 million last season at the trade deadline.

Instead of worrying about free agency and where he might wind up, Howard knew his immediate future was going to be in Detroit.

The stability of that, especially with he and wife Rachel expecting their first child (James IV was born last month), seemed to provide a huge difference.

Howard was one of the Wings' best players in the playoffs and it's carried into this season.

"He's giving us a chance to win every game," forward Henrik Zetterberg said. "He's doing all you can ask of a goalie."

By gaining experience and understanding the ups and downs of the position, Howard seems to have a found, according to coach Mike Babcock, a balance elite goalies need to have.

"He just plays," Babcock said. "When he gives up a bad one (goal), he just keeps doing good things. It's like water off a duck's back."

Part of the credit for Howard's development in the NHL has to go to the Wings' decision to keep him marinating in the minor leagues.

Howard spent four seasons with the Grand Rapids Griffins, awaiting his eventual full-time call-up by the Wings.

"In hindsight it was very beneficial," said Howard, who admits it was sometimes frustrating waiting for his NHL opportunity. "You want to up here, you're working hard, and when you get your opportunity you want to take advantage of it.

"Being a black ace (a playoff call-up) was truly a blessing in disguise. Watching Dom (Dominik Hasek) and Ozzie (Chris Osgood) and how they handled situations and how they handled it with ease, it was good for me to see that."

And he's learned the lessons well enough to possibly make his first All-Star Game and be among the best of the best.

If it happens, great. If not, Howard can definitely live with that, too.

"I'd be able to spend time with my family, which is fantastic," Howard said. "(But) it would be a tremendous opportunity and I'm sure it would be a lot of fun. Just to be in the talks (of) possibly being an All-Star is nice considering the road I've taken."



From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111212...Howard-proving-he’s-an-All-Star#ixzz1gN0oDoUw
 

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Wings may be interested in trading for Ales Hemsky

(ESPN) Much has been made of the Detroit Red Winfs $5.6 million in cap space, and now the Edmonton Journal's Jim Matheson writes that they may add a top-six or top-nine forward. Oh, and Matheson makes a very interesting connection here: "It's no secret Detroit GM Ken Holland has long been an Ales Hemsky fan."

Hemsky is slated to hit unrestricted free agency at season's end and the Oilers would likely be happy to deal him for the right return. Like many others, Detroit might be a place where he finds some consistency, which is something he has lacked in his NHL career.

In addition, Matheson writes that the Wings could chase a d-man at the deadline as well.
 

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Habs now have too many defencemen

(ESPN) Now that Chris Campoli is healed and ready to go, the Montreal Canadiens have a bounty of healthy defensemen. Eight in total, if you count Yannick Weber. Imagine if Andrei Markov (knee) is able to play at all this season? Even if that isn't how the cookie ends up crumbling, the Canadiens will be in good shape to move a blueliner for some much-needed help up front ahead of the trade deadline.

Presuming the Habs would prefer not to part with one of their talented youngsters, Campoli, Weber and Hal Gill are considered available for an appropriate price. Campoli and Gill are poised to become unrestricted free agents following this season; Weber is locked in until 2013.

As it stands, the Montreal Gazette reports Chris Campoli is pegged to sit as a healthy scratch for the Canadiens on Tuesday (and beyond).

More than a handful of NHL teams would benefit greatly from adding an experienced defenseman. GM Pierre Gauthier should expect to hear from several in the couple of months or so.
 
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