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Mod 8 (and the others) have always encouraged PMs when it comes to shills, spam & unacceptable posts. Rather than start a flame war (although newbie vs newbie is entertaining;) ) it is better to notify a Mod and let them work it out. The Mods will also let you know what the results are, just in case you were wrong.

DouMan said:
It’s easy to have a huge number of posts ... just look at a few responses :

“good post”
“ya I should meet her”
“your right she looks hot”
“I was also thinking about that”
and it goes on and on.

Sure, it brings up the post count ... does it really bring up the review credibility ?
Good point DM. High post counts are meaningless. Before I reply to a member's question I always check the posting history (unless its someone I know). I want to know if they contribute, or just use MERB to ask question.

Kronos. as far as Who has the most credibility? Every member has to decide that for themselves. Is it someone whose reviews you trust, or opinions match yours. I don't think post-count means anything, but that's just me. I'm sure that some find the whining, sh*t disturbers credible.

1 last thing, it also increases the post-count when you copy & paste entire conversations into multiple threads, thinking you're making a point. Or recently posting "anyone seen this girl?" & "anything else?" & "SCAM for sure always a scam "... all very helpful posts, I'm sure :rolleyes:

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kronos said:
Its unfortunate really, I waited a long time before posting my first review, not because of the difference of opinions (in fact I enjoy this), but because of the numerous finger pointing of some members. On my first review, I received a PM stating that I should send my stories to playboy and not pollute this fine board. Is this how you/ we encourage diversity.

As the members who now know me will attest, not much will deter me from a mindset. But how many out there will react the same way, maybe just a few. I am certain that there are many out there that have yet to take the plunge and write on this board, and probably have more experience with the hobby than any of us here. But these constant accusation, will only make them stay away.

Who has the most credibility? A member like myself who has a limited amount of posts, with no attacks, no arguing and has shown no disrespect to any members. Or is a member who has over a thousand posts, 90% of these being unsubtantial or negative comments to fellow members, is this member a greater value to this community.

With all that I am reading lately, I wonder!...

Hello Kronos,

The idea that members with more posts are always far more credible than those with much less or newbies is a farce. Sure having a history offers some insight, but if there isn't one, it is up to the reader to make a rational evaluation...not accuse. Its shameful that new posters are often made to run a gauntlet of accusers questioning their honesty and integrity. When I made my first review post on Bigdoggie this did not happen. If it had I might well have moved on. I have a friend who had 80 meetings in one year with many ladies. Because he was questioned and insulted he withdrew and the fountain of information he had was denied to the board and any members looking for help.

For years no one questioned the truthfulness of my reviews. Maybe they thought I was short on the details they wanted, but that was all. Now there seems to be those who see nailing the shill as a sport. There is a meanness which sometimes seems to be for "a good time". This scares away potential contributors and denies helpful information to all of us. There is no room for accusations without proof, and it is especially important to the purpose of the board to maintain an atmosphere of respect for all posters who post in a respectable manner. Many of Drinkher's posts have not. Bullies who persist in generating an atmosphere of suspicion without cause should themselves be dealt with firmly. Publicly humiliating a newer member or any member based on a suspicion or for sport should be a punishable offense. Scaring away potential reviewers is antithetical to the board's purpose and should not be tolerated...and perhaps it is members like Drinkher who should be thoroughly investigated. Drinker's actions are suspicious, like some well known "disturbers" who enjoy creating trouble.

SexyNadya said:
Dear Kronos,

What you wrote is correct in many ways.
A person like Drinkher is an antisocial individual with disorders, manifested in aggressive behavior without empathy or any remorse for disturbing the well being of the community. It has become felt by MANY readers who will not become members of Merb because the smaller man will twist their comments into ridicule. So why go throught the greif ... I know, I speak to them always inviting them to post reviews and to become full fledged members.

The man is shallow. Everyone observed that he always gets involed into heated exchanges with many members and advertisers alike.

Again he is a little man, is comments have NO bearing or leverage on anyone.

Write your comments and reviews !!! You dont need 150 post just to built a character to please a few lightheaded individuals such as Octavian !!! See Mod 8's comments. He as NO REVIEWS besides having one Agency on a on a "" pied destale "" and there he is questioning
other Members credibility and Merb Mod's integrity ???

Trust that respected Members of Merb such as Korbel, Doc Holliday,
Special K just to name a few and the large majority
of people populating this Forum , will always welcome them !!!

Good night Chronos and Enjoy !!!

Nadya.

Wow Nadya,

YOU GO GIRL!:D

Cheers,

Merlot

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Note to the Mods and Fred:

The new system for highlighting or changing font is very annoying. The old system where one could see the changes immediately was much better and easier.
 
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SexyNadya

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Roland said:
I did that, pulled it back because of of this thread....:confused:

Its kinda hard to know how to behave now.;)

Kerlie, Nadya is a serious hot looking babe.....now if I was into SPs....

Hello there Roland !

Roland said:
how to behave now.;)

Darling , Bad boy behaviour is always pleasant ... under the sheets ...

Kisses xxxXXXxxx

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Hello Roland,

I appreciate your discretion, but in this case it was obvious. I do not expect everyone to change their habits overnight. I also do not expect or desire that members start to ignore obvious shills. What I have asked for is to think before posting an accusation and if someone feels they have to voice their opinion about a post possibly being a shill, that they do it in a reasonable way and not in attack mode. And when you suspect a shill, bring it to a moderator's attention while you are at it. That is always appreciated.

And I forgot to give credit where it was due. The shill was brought to my attention by Voyager via PM. Thank you Voyager.

M8
 

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Posting history is a reference nothing more nothing less. Nadya's posting history showed that she was not a lili-white "virgin" when it came to shilling...Some of her other "names" came to mind: General Lee, Kingpin and Gene Simmons. Now, this doesn't mean that she still uses this practice.
A reference is just a reference, nothing more nothing less...and the number of posts should be taken in the same way...just as a reference.
 
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SexyNadya

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Merlot said:
Hello Kronos,

The idea that members with more posts are always far more credible than those with much less or newbies is a farce. Sure having a history offers some insight, but if there isn't one, it is up to the reader to make a rational evaluation...not accuse. Its shameful that new posters are often made to run a gauntlet of accusers questioning their honesty and integrity. When I made my first review post on Bigdoggie this did not happen. If it had I might well have moved on. I have a friend who had 80 meetings in one year with many ladies. Because he was questioned and insulted he withdrew and the fountain of information he had was denied to the board and any members looking for help.

For years no one questioned the truthfulness of my reviews. Maybe they thought I was short on the details they wanted, but that was all. Now there seems to be those who see nailing the shill as a sport. There is a meanness which sometimes seems to be for "a good time". This scares away potential contributors and denies helpful information to all of us. There is no room for accusations without proof, and it is especially important to the purpose of the board to maintain an atmosphere of respect for all posters who post in a respectable manner. Many of Drinkher's posts have not. Bullies who persist in generating an atmosphere of suspicion without cause should themselves be dealt with firmly. Publicly humiliating a newer member or any member based on a suspicion or for sport should be a punishable offense. Scaring away potential reviewers is antithetical to the board's purpose and should not be tolerated...and perhaps it is members like Drinkher who should be thoroughly investigated. Drinker's actions are suspicious, like some well known "disturbers" who enjoy creating trouble.



Wow Nadya,

YOU GO GIRL!:D

Cheers,

Merlot

PS

Note to the Mods and Fred:

The new system for highlighting or changing font is very annoying. The old system where one could see the changes immediately was much better and easier.

Thank you Merlot !!!

And new Members !!! There will always be individuals to ruin a good day and disparately try to intimidate Members !

Let me show you a prime exemple : MAXIMA wrote the following this Morning :

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Maxima
Registered User


Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,764

...and the number of posts should be taken in the same way...

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Is this fare ??? No !!

Many Readers would love to become actual Members but dont. They dont have the time
to "" chat and blog "" and reach the right number of post so a small portion of Members will
feel "" comfortable "" with them in order to post a review...Unbeleivable ...

Thats unreal !

Its up to the Mod's to look after this !

New members post your reviews "" Good or Bad """ !


Kisses xxxXXXxxx
 
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silver00

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kronos said:
We often witness, see members with limited posts being accused of shilling, having no credibility and are basically being run off the board. Why do we do this? I have read more than once a comment like this one, ‘you have no credibility, no knowledge of this hobby, you don’t write enough reviews” What kind of remark is this. I have personally been in this hobby for a short period of time (4 years), in this time I have met an impressive numbers of ladies across the world. With rendezvous’ ranging from 5 to 12hours. So by the logic of some members, my knowledge about women and the hobby is worthless because of my short numbers of posts.

Its unfortunate really, I waited a long time before posting my first review, not because of the difference of opinions (in fact I enjoy this), but because of the numerous finger pointing of some members. On my first review, I received a PM stating that I should send my stories to playboy and not pollute this fine board. Is this how you/ we encourage diversity.

As the members who now know me will attest, not much will deter me from a mindset. But how many out there will react the same way, maybe just a few. I am certain that there are many out there that have yet to take the plunge and write on this board, and probably have more experience with the hobby than any of us here. But these constant accusation, will only make them stay away.

What is going to happen with this board when the members that are contributing in a positive way are gone? Who will be left to continue when the great reviewers have retired. The new members that are now being recruited? No, because these new members who would have quality experiences to share will have already been chased away.

Here is question for members, and I am already imagining all the replies. I just hope that I will be proven wrong.

Who has the most credibility? A member like myself who has a limited amount of posts, with no attacks, no arguing and has shown no disrespect to any members. Or is a member who has over a thousand posts, 90% of these being unsubtantial or negative comments to fellow members, is this member a greater value to this community.

With all that I am reading lately, I wonder!...


kronos, you are talking about credibility, but you probably have no clue that Nadya has no credibility at all on these boards. Let me explain a little:

She was accused of using Denise Milani`s pictures on her website instead of her (Nadya). Then all the members from his agency were having fake pictures, including the owner at some places. She got caught using known pictures of pornstars from all over the world, and even though people exposed the pictures, she did not want to admit it. Instead, she was attacking board members, a little like she did here.

If I remember correctly, she got accused of shilling by TheManSenna, the IPs were matching and he got banned. Looks like they learned how to use a public internet connexion at least.

That`s why I am 100% sure that WoodyWoody and Kings of Kings are shills!! The repetition of the nickname is a nice coincidence, you could have been more original Caroll Cash. Here are some nice other coincidences:

The fact he uses his character WoodyWoody to accuse people of shilling. Is this a strategy to attack the competition and to promote themselve? Is the loft really a competition for sexynadyavips? I also remember WoodyWoody to directly attack April in her review thread.. let`s not be fools here.. Nadya did work for Sunny, and April was directly linked to him. Vengeance ?

Refering to his post history, Woody also commented on Alissa`s thread reporting she used fake pictures, but was unable to prove his point. How could he knew this? Because Alissa did work for sexynadya under Dalhia name. He knew this as the owner of the agency because he saw her in person, not because he had proofs.

Not to mention he did review Crystal under Kings of Kings and WoodyWoody and is "interested" into seeing Tara. Refering to my encounter, Crystal doesn`t do outcalls and yet he had an outcall encounter. They both worked for him, either Crystal or Tara.

Last but not least, if we refer to his reviews for SexyNadya, it`s simply too obvious.
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41909
He went back to back on this one, and even provided links where Nadya got positive feedbacks.

If mods can`t see WoodyWoody is a shill, I`m sorry to tell there is corruption on these boards. The IPs matching is a nice proof, but using your brain is another nice one.

Then kronos, I will most likely get flamed or be forgotten because like you stated I have a low postcount and doesn`t post often, even if I`ve been hobbying for a long time...
 

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Then kronos, I will most likely get flamed or be forgotten because like you stated I have a low postcount and doesn`t post often, even if I`ve been hobbying for a long time...

No Silver ! You`re a Banned Member using a different user name...thats all !! ... or the guost of Jay or Allan !! :eek: !!

And all of these reviews were made up to ... AND JUST HOW MANY REVIEWS DO YOU HAVE ON THIS BOARD ... ZERO !!

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=9740&highlight=Nadya

... its going back 2005 ... get a life !

Have a good day !!!

Kisses xxxXXXxxx

Nadya !
 
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silver00 said:
That's why I am 100% sure that WoodyWoody and Kings of Kings are shills!! The repetition of the nickname is a nice coincidence, you could have been more original Caroll Cash. Here are some nice other coincidences:

There is definately a link btw SexyNadya, WoodyWoody and King of Kings...

Tell me its just a concidence that there is a review thread started by WW with him and King of kings posting positive reviews.

In the Lolita Bravo review thread started by WW ...again a bad review comes in...the very next day King of Kings writes a positive review.

In the Roberta review thread started by a not so hot review...both King of Kings and WW chime in 11 minutes apart 30 mins after the bad review is posted with positive comments and promises for a review later....



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SexyNadya

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Having Fun !

Roland said:
OK...Hee ha ha ha ha....:rolleyes:

Roland


Roland,

This is what this board should be about. Having fun and a great time.
Just like Sex, its ment to be fun.
As you can see its a very limited among of people are giving those folks
any credit. Its their problem.

Its was very pleasant exchanging with you !

Alway's,

Nadya !

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Hello everyone,

I did a little cleaning to get the thread back on topic. I will add these last four posts to it later. This may have been the first time a Mod helped in the hijacking of a thread. Time to return to serious things now but it was a nice break.

M8
 

silver00

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kronos, sorry I simply used your subject to elaborate my point and was not debating with you in any way. I totally agree about your post. Again I'm sorry.

This said, these were not accusations but facts. If you can't see what I'm seeing there's a serious problem.

And Caroll.. or Nadya! When I was saying you were attacking members to defend yourself, you just prove my point, thank you :)

I have no link with Maxima, and I barely know who he/she is.
 

SexyNadya

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Excuses ...

kronos said:
Silver00,

My question and remarks were directed at no one, but were made in the general.

In my original post, I had also included a saying that went like 'Here is question for members, and I am already imagining all the replies. I just hope that I will be proven wrong."

I guess that I wasn't. I find it unfortunate that we as members are not able to continue this conversation without falling into accusations again!!

why not just discuss the problem without falling into the trap, isn't this (acusations) the root of the problem!!!

Don't buy into this Sweetheart ! What he did is called "" hijacking "".
Only a senior Member would know how to sneak is way in there and take
advantage of your good will.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 32 kronos, sorry I simply used your subject to elaborate my point and was not debating with you in any way. I totally agree about your post. Again I'm sorry.

This said, these were not accusations but facts. If you can't see what I'm seeing there's a serious problem.

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Silver00 junior Member ... right !
 

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Let Drop the Gloves !!!

silver00 said:
And Caroll.. or Nadya! When I was saying you were attacking members to defend yourself, you just prove my point, thank you :)

I have no link with Maxima, and I barely know who he/she is.

Now SILVER00 !!!

How is Business Sweetheart !!!
ITS kind of SLOW ... Right ! Not here !!! I can tell you that !!!

This is NOT CASH ! Its me Nadya ! Cash as only 6 months of experience ,
and he is one hell of a great "" receptionist "" so I'm not exposing him to
the Ugly side of the Business ! I've been around a little longer !

Silver00 do you wish that I disclose who you are to the
PUBLIC ???


Please give me a reason not to !!!!
 
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Really? When have I ever told someone they have no business in a thread?

I'm not going to do your work for you.... find them yourself...

:eek::eek::eek:Wait, wait I'm awakening from a bad dream and quoting another poster.... forget the first line...
 
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