The news reporting at Fox isn't that bad. Commentators, guys like Hannity and other underlings like him, that's another story. But then again they have Shepard Smith who can be quite blunt when reporting about Trump and his pals
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The news reporting at Fox isn't that bad. Commentators, guys like Hannity and other underlings like him, that's another story. But then again they have Shepard Smith who can be quite blunt when reporting about Trump and his pals
I’m sure I’ll get slammed for this but before there was even a “Fox News” didn’t most if not all the news and media come from liberal or at least left sources? Yes, the conservatives owned AM radio, but conservatives haven’t really had a voice on any mainstream media since the coming of the Fox News network. Criticize them all you want, at least they bring another point of view to the news. Like it or not, it’s all subjective. Me personally, I get news updates from CNN, Fox, and a few others and try to rummage through the political bullshit and determine what the actual news is.
Fox News has some very good anchors/reporters mid-morning and afternoon. Bill Hemmer, Shep Smith, Brett Baier, Neil Cavuto and Martha MacCallum. I don't feel this group in general leads cheers for Trump. Perhaps some of them are sympathetic to some of his policies. I think all of them have criticized Trump or aired critical segments. This group also was not vitriolic towards Obama.
CNN and MSNBC are another story. You can't be on the air at any hour unless you are bashing Trump, his family, friends and anything he's trying to do. Many of CNN and MSNBC's anchors/reporters have entered into very partisan commentary as opposed to news reporting. Basically, they are chasing ratings with indulgent provocation.
Would rather that they stick to factual news reporting rather than getting into all this commentary stuff that I don't find enlightening or even informative
Most of their guests don't bring in a new perspective, they're just there to vent against Trum and bash him. I don't like the guy, but I feel that the issues his presidency raises are just superficially discussed if at all. Don Lemon's prime-time show is brutal for that IMO
Some of CNN's reporters are also so confrontational with the Trump staff that the antagonism it generates feeds even more into Trump's narrative that mainstream media is out to get him. That's not helpful. Jim Acosta's behaviour comes to mind
Don't know about MSNBC. Gave up on them years ago
Well, when you consider what he's trying to do is embolden and encourage racists and white nationalists, alienate America's allies, cozy up to and coddle the planet's worst dictators, and run a government for profit, perhaps that's not a bad idea.
And when he lies openly upwards of six time per day, is it not the press' job to expose that. Or do you really believe that Canada and our European allies are robbing the US blind? When Trump says that Canada, which runs a trade deficit with the US, is running a huge surplus, is it not the press' job to call out the lie?
And why is it that every Republican in congress not running for re-election is calling Trump out for his incessant lying?
Fortunately, the law is starting to catch up with Drumpf. Today's charges in NY are but the tip of the iceberg.
Rumple you did not get it. Trump has no clue what a lie is. Why should he care about lies. He lived all his life like many americans where the end justify the means. It's all about cash. That's it.
The most humanity Trump could have was grabbing a few pussy. Because in his world these pussy were lucky.
Cheers,
The most humanity Trump could have was grabbing a few pussy. Because in his world these pussy were lucky.
Cheers,
News stopped being just news when main media outlets were accused of liberal bias, which is as old as the mid 1950s. Conservatives could never believe that while journalism (and academia) primarily attracts liberals, it was impossible that one's political leanings wouldn't cloud reporting or education. It's the same partisanship that now has us questioning the affiliation of the FBI. Fox doesn't correct media bias while reporting news but instead offers conservative talking points 24/7 (with a slight exception). The success of Fox News as the number one news network only further fractured the media landscape. The left had to have "their news" too which explains leftward tilt of CNN and left-from-inception MSNBC.
MSNBC is as worthless as Fox. CNN might not like Trump but as far as other media corroborate each other, they are not reporting anything that isn't factual. On the other hand, the only person appeared to be concerned with actual reporting on Fox is Shepard Smith. Much to the chagrin of several Fox News viewers, he has regularly contradicted reports given by his fellow journalists. Add to that, a few incidents in which the network didn't even vet the background of their contributors. Also, last I checked no one who used to work for CNN came forward to call the network a "propaganda machine." Same cannot be said for Fox. (For what it's worth though, an ex of mine worked at CNN for a while and she was very happy to leave. Till this day, she hasn't divulged why).
I'm not absolving CNN. News shouldn't cater to any ideology. It should just be news. Not having 24 hr news channels might help. There will be no need to editorialize by anchors of either party. Maybe that always the case before CNN changed everything and before the Fairness Doctrine lapsed. I don't know. But in the fractured media landscape, not all actors are the same. The Wall Street Journal has a conservative editorial staff and they do a great job covering the news. Fox is just awful. (I know I just compared a newspaper to a network but the point is it is not ideology that directs coverage but intent. WSJ and Fox are owned now by Murdoch and have the same ideology but their goals couldn't be more dissimilar).
MSNBC is as worthless as Fox. CNN might not like Trump but as far as other media corroborate each other, they are not reporting anything that isn't factual. On the other hand, the only person appeared to be concerned with actual reporting on Fox is Shepard Smith. Much to the chagrin of several Fox News viewers, he has regularly contradicted reports given by his fellow journalists. Add to that, a few incidents in which the network didn't even vet the background of their contributors. Also, last I checked no one who used to work for CNN came forward to call the network a "propaganda machine." Same cannot be said for Fox. (For what it's worth though, an ex of mine worked at CNN for a while and she was very happy to leave. Till this day, she hasn't divulged why).
I'm not absolving CNN. News shouldn't cater to any ideology. It should just be news. Not having 24 hr news channels might help. There will be no need to editorialize by anchors of either party. Maybe that always the case before CNN changed everything and before the Fairness Doctrine lapsed. I don't know. But in the fractured media landscape, not all actors are the same. The Wall Street Journal has a conservative editorial staff and they do a great job covering the news. Fox is just awful. (I know I just compared a newspaper to a network but the point is it is not ideology that directs coverage but intent. WSJ and Fox are owned now by Murdoch and have the same ideology but their goals couldn't be more dissimilar).
This is one of your fairer posts. Incidentally, a few years ago I thought CNN was the most balanced news network. They found that being in the middle is not the proverbial sweet spot, but rather a place where they got squeezed by Fox News and MSNBC in competition for viewership.
It should come as no surprise when discussing political bias of news networks that the discussion is biased. You wrote about Conservative bias: "It's the same partisanship that now has us questioning the affiliation of the FBI." Since you brought up the recent events with the FBI, it provides an excellent example of bias on bias or perhaps better described as facts be damned.
The Inspector General (IG) released his report on the FBI's handling of the Clinton server investigation. He extensively criticized Comey and his various lieutenants on how they handled the investigation. So of course Fox is beating the drum that the FBI is biased and its executive leadership was partisan. The liberal media is saying it is much ado about nothing. In concluding his report, the IG said there was no bias.
Based on the above, it might be fair to say that Fox is guilty of extremely biased spinning and CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo are reporting facts. But, hold on! I'm not stupid. I can think for myself. The IG spent months and months on a 500 page report to say Comey & Co. did systemically stupid things in the Clinton investigation, but the FBI showed no bias. Peter Strzok (FBI agent) in a FBI email to a colleague commented on the Trump campaign "We'll stop it." This email was previously redacted by the FBI claiming a national security risk. (Oh, brother.) Strzok was a key FBI figure in the Clinton and Russian Collusion investigations.
You might still counter my belief that the FBI was biased based on the above info alone. However, what is particularly damning is that FBI employees have been fired and demoted and their are more firings to come over the Clinton investigation. I'm not trying to change your mind, but I'm saying you don't need Fox News, CNN, MSNBC or the Inspector General to tell you if the FBI had bias. You should be able to form your own opinion based on the facts.
It should come as no surprise when discussing political bias of news networks that the discussion is biased. You wrote about Conservative bias: "It's the same partisanship that now has us questioning the affiliation of the FBI." Since you brought up the recent events with the FBI, it provides an excellent example of bias on bias or perhaps better described as facts be damned.
The Inspector General (IG) released his report on the FBI's handling of the Clinton server investigation. He extensively criticized Comey and his various lieutenants on how they handled the investigation. So of course Fox is beating the drum that the FBI is biased and its executive leadership was partisan. The liberal media is saying it is much ado about nothing. In concluding his report, the IG said there was no bias.
Based on the above, it might be fair to say that Fox is guilty of extremely biased spinning and CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo are reporting facts. But, hold on! I'm not stupid. I can think for myself. The IG spent months and months on a 500 page report to say Comey & Co. did systemically stupid things in the Clinton investigation, but the FBI showed no bias. Peter Strzok (FBI agent) in a FBI email to a colleague commented on the Trump campaign "We'll stop it." This email was previously redacted by the FBI claiming a national security risk. (Oh, brother.) Strzok was a key FBI figure in the Clinton and Russian Collusion investigations.
You might still counter my belief that the FBI was biased based on the above info alone. However, what is particularly damning is that FBI employees have been fired and demoted and their are more firings to come over the Clinton investigation. I'm not trying to change your mind, but I'm saying you don't need Fox News, CNN, MSNBC or the Inspector General to tell you if the FBI had bias. You should be able to form your own opinion based on the facts.
"When he speaks people listen, I want my citizen to do the same" Trump said that today talking about Kim Jong-un. Can someone tell Trump that if north Korean do not obey they are killed?
Trump is a fucking piece of shit! Men! Wake up!
Cheers,
Trump is a fucking piece of shit! Men! Wake up!
Cheers,
So when do politicans cross the line? Trump says the above statement and some are outraged even though they do not live in his country. Meanwhile our POS says he loves the Chinese governments way of ruling, thinks Castro was a great leader and welcomes back convicted terrorists and even gives some 10 million to boot and not a peep. Our house is run my a complete idiot and Trump is the nasty one.
What Trump says may have more of an impact on Canadians than what the PM says, just on the sheer size of the American economy.
The Canadian government is what is holding Canada back not what Trump says. The new carbon tax, the non business friendly system, outrageous union wages, not getting our product to ports, making womens equal rights the highight of NAFTA. Our government is a politically correct joke, our energy sector which could bring us in billions is in ruin, our leader is a joke around the world, our taxes are going way up.
Hard to bkame Trump for everything but some try.
Hard to bkame Trump for everything but some try.
SolTee, is Canada really holding back its energy sector?
What a shame. Not only do I think the energy renaissance is helping American economic vitality, I actually think it helps the cause of Western Democracy to reduce the power and influence of Mideast oil countries.
What a shame. Not only do I think the energy renaissance is helping American economic vitality, I actually think it helps the cause of Western Democracy to reduce the power and influence of Mideast oil countries.
Perhaps because the USA is the leader of the free democratic world. That was they valued for many years. All is stumbling under a president which is more and more a Berlusconi type... King Trump wants an autocracy of only white. This will be very damaging not only for the US but for all democratic countries.
Trump found more in common in North Korea with it's leader, than with the G7, that shows you the depth of the crazy we are dealing with.
Machievelli wrote that 500 years ago, but Trump does not read... He has a true admiration for dictators...
No, what is holding back our enrgy sector is paid for protesters to keep our oil from the foreign markets. Our fucking politicians do not want to upset the minority who protest. Obama made an ass out of Justine by having him believe in the Go Green while the US fracks the fuck out of the east coast and build enough pipelines to go aroung the world. China asked Trudeau for oil and Justine came back with asking them to build factories in Canada, they left.
We spent over 120 billion in 10 years importing oil because fucking politics while the rest of the world is making bllions,, too bad some people are too fucking stupid to see Canada is being bocked so others can make billions.
As for Trump praising Kim, many of you are business people, I am sure quite a few of you met some dick of a prospective client you said good things about to get the signed deal. Do you really expect any business man to say " Yup, the little dictator is an ass, his country sucks " and expect a deal to go through?
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