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jalimon

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Sambuca I simply find the excerpt from her book amusing especially due to the nature of this board.

When I read reviews here I sometimes roll my eye and think my god so many Trump here... haha
 

Valcazar

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Easy, it is like looking in the mirror for them.
They hate everybody and believe any change is better than none.

That was a big part of Sanders's appeal as well. This is what I mean by Trump's "the system is rigged" thing not necessarily working for him again. People were pissed and frustrated and he promised them that he would change it and fix it. And even people who thought he was full of shit kind of figured "why not? It would be worth it to say "fuck you" to the system."

Well, now he has a track record, and it is pretty shit. If people think "well, I'm doing ok, so I guess it was worth it" then he wins. If people think "fuck this noise, he made shit worse" then he loses.


If you have been reading this thread over the last year and watching American news, the Justice Dept, FBI and now the Mueller investigation are trying to remove Trump from office. That is no longer in doubt.

Actually it is. If they wanted him just straight up "gone from office" they could do it. Especially if they don't mind him dead. There are factions in all those groups who support him, some who dislike him, and some who want to get to the bottom of the Russian interference.

You, yourself Jalimon and Valcazar, have not just criticized him vehemently, but have been calling for Trump's removal.

Actually, I haven't called for his removal. If that happens, it should be very considered and deliberate. Also, as an American, it is my patriotic right and duty to criticize the fuck out of a president if I think he is doing a bad job.

We now know the FBI has been investigating Trump and his campaign since his rise in the primaries in 2016. Several Justice Dept and FBI employees actually have been fired or forced out for their overzealous pursuit of Trump.

Yes, by Trump. It's a little hard to take seriously someone who fires the people investigating him. :)

So how the fuck was Trump's paranoia in 2016 not warranted? If Trump is not linked to Russian collusion and/or impeached, we might be left with some minor charges or simply association with indicted people. However, the Washington establishment will have done a pretty good job delegitimizing his Presidency.

But that wasn't what he was saying. He was saying they would rig the election against him. Which, you know, they didn't do. Hell, they didn't even mention the investigation while it was happening, and downplayed it so as not to interfere. He wasn't saying "The FBI is trying to stop me" back then, he was saying "The FBI is investigating Hillary because she is crooked".

Anyway, I wasn't talking about his lies about vote rigging. I was talking about his whole "The system is rigged and only I can fix it" BS. As I mentioned before, that only worked when he didn't have a track record. It might still work, he can always say everything is someone else's fault. That's his go-to tactic. But when all he had to do was make promises and not offer proof, it was easier.

C'mon Val follow the ball or the puck. If Trump emerges from this Mueller inquisition with nary a scratch and only some indicted/convicted colleagues, he's going to beat that drum all through the 2020 election cycle. And seriously, who would blame him? except of course some whiny liberals.

Of course he will. And while that seems unlikely, it is possible. And he will have every right. The Dems will, of course, point to the fact that he was surrounded by criminals and make a case for him being unfit to run the government. Then the people will decide. But the people who said "how bad can it be, maybe he will do some good and shake things up" won't be able to just project a good outcome anymore. They will have to look at his track record and decide whether or not they are cool with it. An outsider promising change is always an easier sell than the person who actually has to deliver.
 

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It amuses me that Canadians in this thread are in a complete rant over Trump, almost frothing at the mouth and not a peep about the full retard we have ruining Canada. This just shows the power of the media. If I was an American I would be upset with the tweets and BS Trump does but the average working American is not complaining. Media sheep, the ones who are glued to the news of the horrors Trump did, his wife did not hold his hand, he may get divorced. Really.

Maybe because this isn't a thread about Trudeau?

// ** looks at title ** ///

Nope. It isn't a thread about Trudeau.
 

Valcazar

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Can someone please explain Trump's logic when it comes to tariffs?

I heard the other day that 99% of economists do not agree with imposing tariffs. Who's advising Trump on this? And what's his rationale?

My understanding from what he said the other day is that he thinks imposing tariffs means making the other guy pay you money. So even though tariffs are paid by Americans who import Chinese goods, he keeps saying "China is now paying us millions of dollars in tariffs". So since he doesn't understand how they work, he thinks he is bullying a country and getting paid protection money, I guess. That means he "wins the trade war". He thinks it is easy.


Another question: are average Americans even aware that the current deficit (which is already huge) is expected to triple less than two years from now?

Probably not. No one really cares about the deficit, especially the GOP. Since the GOP doesn't care, the press doesn't report it much. When a Democrat is in power, the GOP pretends to care and so the press reports it.
 

Valcazar

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Oh, oh, somebody pissed off Liberal Val.

Not really. I think Trudeau is pretty shit. I just thought it was funny he was demanding to know why people weren't complaining about Trudeau in a thread about Trump.
Isn't there already an "Anybody but Trudeau" thread? That is where people complain about Trudeau. :)
 

Carmine Falcone

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Not really. I think Trudeau is pretty shit. I just thought it was funny he was demanding to know why people weren't complaining about Trudeau in a thread about Trump.
Isn't there already an "Anybody but Trudeau" thread? That is where people complain about Trudeau. :)

May I add, Valcazar, that regardless of the quality of work Trudeau may or may not be doing it's a given that there were no trending stories today or any other day about the appearance of his dick. But when you elect a reality show character, you get just that. As an aside, who exactly is surprised by her revelations? It's self-serving and expedient on her part and not exactly news. That's because any self-assured man can see from a mile away that Trump's greatest aspiration is to have an average dick; Mandingo territory to him is like the Promised Land to Moses. There's no way a man that thoroughly insecure can be even be average.
 

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I heard the other day that 99% of economists do not agree with imposing tariffs. Who's advising Trump on this? And what's his rationale?

There's very little that 99% of economists agree on. In a world with perfectly free trading environments, economists believe in free trade. The problem is there is no such thing as free trade. Also, most of the economists you see on TV work for politically affiliated groups or groups affiliated with large multinationals and exporters. Many economists dislike tariffs because they are messy and imperfect. They would prefer that nations amicably agreed to free trade. That does not mean that economists don't think that our chronic, large trade imbalances with China are a problem.

Perhaps you remember Austan Goolsbee Obama's former Head of Council of Economic Advisers:

I do believe there’s no one more in favor of open markets than me and that said, if you look at a free trade agreement—if you have never read a free trade agreement I encourage you to go read it—because it is as close to the economists’ case for free trade as our tax code is to the economists’ case for the ideal tax system. If you look at these 900-page agreements, they’re two pages of what every economist says “yeah, that’s great”—opening tariffs—and then 898 pages of loopholes.

Let's just say I don't see the doom and gloom from tariffs for the U.S. Temporary disruptions perhaps. Certainly, bigger disruptions in China.

A trade war was not what caused the Great Depression. Rather it exacerbated the Great Depression in the U.S. and not Europe. The reason is that the U.S. was running large trade surpluses throughout the 1920s. Smoot-Hawley did not do what was intended and protect U.S. industry. It backfired hurting our export economy. European nations with large, trade deficits benefited from the trade war and came out of the Great Depression faster than the United States.

The claim that Smoot-Hawley tariffs caused the Great Depression was a rather simplistic view of a specific situation that existed for the United States in 1930. Unafifiliated economists no longer make this claim.
 

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Yesterday Trump told the press that he felt terribly for Kavanaugh and especially his wife and children. I wonder why he wasn't feeling the same way about his own wife and 4-month old baby while he was fucking a porn star without a condom.
 

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^^^^^^^ If you read non escort ( merb ) posts about his mushrom dick 80% are putting her down for the comment. This was not a plus for the general population. Think if Trump posted she had a vagina like a mouldy fleshlight, the uproar... ( From one of the posts )
 

jalimon

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The problem is not Trumps's small penis. It's the fact that he think he is Dirk Diggler ;)
 

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STN,

I never thought it was chivalrous for any man to kiss and tell (singer John Mayer was excoriated for discussing his sex life with various girlfriends in a Playboy interview, among other things calling Jessica Simpson “sexual napalm”) and I don’t see that women should get a pass for doing the same. I remember hearing Howard Stern interview Billy Joel some years ago and Stern repeatedly tried to get Joel to talk about his private time with Christie Brinkley and Joel wouldn’t bite. Finally after like the 5th time Stern tried to provoke some bedroom talk Joel shut him down abruptly, stating calmly and matter of factly, “Howard, I don’t kiss and tell, let’s move on.”
 

Carmine Falcone

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I thought it was totally unnecessary for Stormy to describe his junk. It was coarse and debasing. That said, it's basically meeting Trump on his own terms. This was a guy who said Megyn Kelly was bleeding from her whatever, and Mika Brzezinski was bleeding from her face because of plastic surgery or something like that. If he can dish it out, then he should be able to take it.

STN, yes there'd be outrage if Trump described Stormy's vagina. She's not a President; he is. Of the many lessons Trump hasn't learned is there is certain behavior expected of a United States President-- hell, the leader of any nation. If Trump keeps turning the cheek regarding Stormy (he hasn't really acknowledged her), including not responding about his Shiitake dick, it'll be one tiny step in the right direction of acting like a President.
 

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..........singer John Mayer was excoriated for discussing his sex life with various girlfriends in a Playboy interview, among other things calling Jessica Simpson “sexual napalm”

Can I just take a brief timeout from the subject of Trump's penis to say if a Jessica Simpson look-alike worked at an agency and was sexual napalm, she would be booked up until 2025.

I think I got hard just thinking about it. :eyebrows:
 

Valcazar

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I know people who have blocked the word "mushroom" on Twitter for a week because of all the stupid Trump-Stormy shit.
 

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It looks like Rosenstein will resign.
What if anything will be the consequences to the Russia investigation ?
 
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