Why? Serious question. I mean, the GOP has basically admitted it was a cynical political ploy, so what are you here about?
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Why? Serious question. I mean, the GOP has basically admitted it was a cynical political ploy, so what are you here about?
So you are referencing some single anecdote without details but I guess it is supposed to be damning. (This *may* be Joel Arrona-Lara, who was acquitted in Mexico, but who knows.)
You "believe" Hispanics have more criminal problems, but have nothing other than your gut to base it on.
You "believe" ICE is targeting other criminal behavior, although that's known not to be true. (That was Obama's policy, but Trump explicitly contramanded it. The whole point of "taking the shackles off" was to allow ICE to go after immigrants who hadn't committed crimes. This isn't contested.)
You "believe" Hispanics have more criminal problems, but have nothing other than your gut to base it on.
You "believe" ICE is targeting other criminal behavior, although that's known not to be true. (That was Obama's policy, but Trump explicitly contramanded it. The whole point of "taking the shackles off" was to allow ICE to go after immigrants who hadn't committed crimes. This isn't contested.)
Ivanka Trump used her personal email account for government business
by Kate Sullivan
Ivanka Trump last year used a personal email account to discuss or relay official White House business, according to emails released by a nonpartisan watchdog group.
The Washington Post reported Monday the White House conducted an investigation into Trump's email usage and that she used her personal email address for much of 2017.
According to emails released by the watchdog group, American Oversight, Trump used her personal account to email Cabinet officials, White House aides and assistants. The Presidential Records Act requires all official White House communications and records be preserved.
Austin Evers, the executive director of American Oversight, said in a statement, "The president's family is not above the law, and there are serious questions that Congress should immediately investigate. Did Ivanka Trump turn over all of her emails for preservation as required by law? Was she sending classified information over a private system?"
The White House had no comment on Ivanka Trump's email practices.
A person close to Ivanka Trump told CNN's Poppy Harlow that "Ivanka's mindset is there is no malintent, and she is comfortable because there was no intent to avoid."
"There was no intent to avoid government servers. All of it has been preserved," the person continued explaining that if Ivanka Trump sent an email from her personal email to a government employee, then it hits the government server.
That response mirrored the argument Clinton made when defending her use of a private email server when it was an issue during the 2016 presidential campaign.
"The vast majority of my work emails went to government employees at their government addresses, which meant they were captured and preserved immediately on the system at the State Department," Clinton said in a speech in March 2015.
Trump's usage of a private email account will bring comparisons to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose usage of a private email server instead of a government email account during her time in office was a central part of President Donald Trump's campaign against her in 2016. Trump's supporters often chanted -- and still do, on occasion -- "Lock her up!" at the mention of Clinton, and President Donald Trump has frequently accused Clinton of receiving special treatment because she was not charged for skirting the Presidential Records Act with her email practices.
Ivanka Trump used personal email to do government business
When it comes to corruption in the Trump family the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Steve Bannon must have been chuckling out loud yesterday when he heard the news. Bannon absolutely HATES Ivanka Trump!!! He screamed at her numerous times during his time at the WH and literally referred to her as nothing but a spoiled bimbo! "You're nothing but a fucking staffer!!!", he once shouted at her.
Bannon also predicted that Ivanka Trump would one day bring down the Trump presidency. Who knows!
The hypocrisy from these corrupt Republicans is astonishing!!! "LOCK HER UP!!!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Doc her use of personal email will not go far as no one is taking her seriously. She is just a dumb girl who, because of her look and attitude, make Trump look a bit better.
As for Bannon hating her... Hum... Let's just say that if somehow she is a reason why Bannon was removed from office then we can say she at least achieved one thing that is good for America!
Bannon is a white racist supremacist. He is completely fucked up and very dangerous. Much more then Trump.
Cheers,
As for Bannon hating her... Hum... Let's just say that if somehow she is a reason why Bannon was removed from office then we can say she at least achieved one thing that is good for America!
Bannon is a white racist supremacist. He is completely fucked up and very dangerous. Much more then Trump.
Cheers,
My comment was relative to Rumple's comment that no one mentions the caravan anymore.
Sorry Val, I got no problem making that generalization. The sheer number of Hispanic illegal immigrants vis-a-vis other groups kind of makes it a no brainer. I'm not saying they have a higher propensity to commit crimes or anything that specific.
Funny, Jaliman never has a link to anything he says. I am guessing he hears things in a pub or on the street and takes it for the truth.
I'm not exactly sure that this article is an example of racist actions or words. He's basically saying if you want to label everyone in the populist movement a racist so be it.
Beyond that, the article is another example of the challenge globalization faces all over the Western world. It is simply not just a Trump phenomenon.
OF course it isn't just a Trump phenomenon. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. Electing him is like an accelerant, but he isn't the source.
As for Bannon - if all you are going to accept are his self-description, he won't ever say he is racist. He will say it is a smear used because people can't handle the facts and so the right wing should embrace it because it means the right wing is winning and the left is scared.
And so the bit about Hispanics have more trouble with the law was to justify what point then? You don't think they commit crimes at higher rates, it is just that there are more of them. (So really you believe white people have the most trouble with the law.) Is your argument that Hispanics complain about ICE because they are confused and are taking perfectly normal levels of interaction as them being targeted? Again, what is the point of your statement?
As for Bannon - if all you are going to accept are his self-description, he won't ever say he is racist. He will say it is a smear used because people can't handle the facts and so the right wing should embrace it because it means the right wing is winning and the left is scared.
And so the bit about Hispanics have more trouble with the law was to justify what point then? You don't think they commit crimes at higher rates, it is just that there are more of them. (So really you believe white people have the most trouble with the law.) Is your argument that Hispanics complain about ICE because they are confused and are taking perfectly normal levels of interaction as them being targeted? Again, what is the point of your statement?
@Doc Holliday - This won't go anywhere. The emails was like the budget deficit or states rights or the Caravan - not something the GOP actually cares about. It was just the BS they decided to pretend being outraged about.
Ivanka has already started her "I'm just a pretty dumb innocent daughter trying to help her dad" as her defense. It is what she always does when she is expected to actually do something. This won't go anywhere because the mainstream media isn't going to run with it like they did with the Clinton emails BS, and the Democrats won't keep harping on it. (Why would they? It was immediately reported as giving Democrats fodder for attacking her rather than an actual problem, so they know the MSM won't amplify the message even if they faked the same level of outrage.)
Ivanka has already started her "I'm just a pretty dumb innocent daughter trying to help her dad" as her defense. It is what she always does when she is expected to actually do something. This won't go anywhere because the mainstream media isn't going to run with it like they did with the Clinton emails BS, and the Democrats won't keep harping on it. (Why would they? It was immediately reported as giving Democrats fodder for attacking her rather than an actual problem, so they know the MSM won't amplify the message even if they faked the same level of outrage.)
I agree with you it's just not a Trump phenomenon unfortunately.
You know back in 1930's the Nazi did not said publicly that they would gazed 6 millions Jews. Their racism was well kept until they had power.
Cheers,
This was my point:
".........Hispanic illegals are more likely to get into trouble with the law. This is where most of teeth gnashing arises over ICE apprehensions, detainers and certain sanctuary policies. California politicians, like Kamala Harris, must be keenly sensitive to the Hispanic community both legal and illegal."
You probably won't agree, but liberal politicians and media seemed laser focused on Hispanic immigration. It helps the "racism" drumbeat of both liberal politicians and media. All other immigrant groups and their issues get overlooked. I could go on and on about how the plight of Cuban refugees have been neglected. Cuban immigrants are technically Hispanic, but they also tend to be anti-government.
Please do me a favor Valcazar. If you disagree with me, fine. I actually enjoy hearing your opinions. Don't grind the thread into attacking every phrase and word I write. Let's just agree we don't share the same views.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...crisis-asks-for-international-help/ar-BBQ0je6
I'm so glad the caravan wasn't real. Could you imagine the crisis if that mythical caravan was real and all those people were converging with these people?
I'm so glad the caravan wasn't real. Could you imagine the crisis if that mythical caravan was real and all those people were converging with these people?
Jesus Christ sambuca, no one said the Caravan wasn't real. They said it wasn't an invasion and a threat to national security.
You will note that even this article isn't saying people should border troops to shoot them because they are full of MS-13 and "middle Easterners".
You will note that even this article isn't saying people should border troops to shoot them because they are full of MS-13 and "middle Easterners".
Question, do you honestly not see how "Hispanic illegals are more likely to get into trouble with the law" doesn't imply that you are saying they commit crimes at a higher rate? I asked for clarification, which you have now given - you don't think that, and you don't think it is due to law enforcement only going after their immigration status. So basically your position is they don't realize they aren't actually in more trouble proportionally, it is just by volume, and so a misperception. (As you say about politics.)
You could, of course, try and look up facts to support your position, and we could move from there now that it has been clarified.
You could, of course, try and look up facts to support your position, and we could move from there now that it has been clarified.
I thought the caravan was a "cynical political ploy". Why can't an American just simply support granting a caravan of economic refugees access or choose not to support granting them access?
Trump's long-time attorney Michael Cohen just plead guilty in court for lying to Congress. As part of plea-deal he had to come clean and what he told Mueller contradicts what Trump has told the special prosecutor. Cohen told Mueller that Trump is lying and was fully aware of the Trump Tower meetings with the Russians. He also told Mueller that talks about building a Trump Tower in Moscow lasted well into the summer of 2017. Trump had previously claimed those talks had ended the minute he won (or stole) the presidency.
Now Trump is going crazy (as usual) and claiming Cohen is lying in order to get a better deal from the government. No one is buying Trump's bullshit anymore. Will Trump end up in prison? I doubt it although it could happen once he's no longer President. But i've been hearing for some time that part of a plea-bargain with Mueller may involve him resigning from office. What a reality show!!!
Now Trump is going crazy (as usual) and claiming Cohen is lying in order to get a better deal from the government. No one is buying Trump's bullshit anymore. Will Trump end up in prison? I doubt it although it could happen once he's no longer President. But i've been hearing for some time that part of a plea-bargain with Mueller may involve him resigning from office. What a reality show!!!
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