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Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
Just to let some of you know, the right is not denying climate change, what we are saying is no taxes will change what the climate is about to do. For all we know in 20 years we may have a mini freeze up, no one knows, fucking weather experts can not predict next weekend, how can they see 10 years in the future.
Next, look at the stock markets and consumer confidence in the US, all look good, employment is up. Automation will happen because if min wage increase and raised taxes, a left wing speciality.
The working US citizens will see an improvement, for the working Canadian citizen not so much, down hill and less disposable income.
 

Carmine Falcone

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First of all-Trump is right!

1.Not really

It depends on the country.

Or the peoples of Venezuela,Russia and Nigeria would be rich-but they are quite opposite.

Don't act like you know if you don't. I've lived in Nigeria. As of a few years ago, it was the 5th largest supplier of oil to the US. There is enough money in the country to make everyone there solidly middle-class. But the amount of intractable corruption is so staggering that public officials raid government coffers and do absolutely nothing for regular people. If Nigeria followed Norway's footsteps with reinvesting in its people with oil money, we'd be singing a different tune about shithole countries. Corruption is rampant in Russia too. Putin perfected the kleptocratic model Trump is partially emulating via lack of personal business transparency. Add sanctions to Russia's problems and it's no surprise the plebeians are most affected.

That aside, as Jalimon said what's the diplomatic impact of insulting people you have to work with? Africa is a widening stage for ISIS. As a result, the US and other Western countries coordinate with African countries via intelligence and intelligence sharing. It can't help matters at all to openly call them names. Just one of the many international alliances Trump has strained since being elected to office. I don't expect you to contemplate that though. It's blindingly obvious how impossible it is for conservatives to hold two disparate thoughts simultaneously.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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. It's blindingly obvious how impossible it is for conservatives to hold two disparate thoughts simultaneously.

I think you have that mixed up, Conservatives are more open minded and do not follow the media so blindly. Many Liberals are realizing the amount of bull shit from Justine and the media, his popularity is dropping all the time. Conservatives saw it before the election, Liberals are slowly catching on.
Most of us think about issues and make up our minds, Liberals listen to " their " news and do as they are told.
Why is this climate change always changing its title, soon it will be called weather that we can not change with taxes.

Edit: And did you ever see such a butt hurt bunch of people after an election loss? I mean ever..... Pathetic what happened in the US, grown people acting like spoiled children.
 

voxclamantis

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Carmine Falcone



"Don't act like you know if you don't. I've lived in Nigeria. As of a few years ago, it was the 5th largest supplier of oil to the US. There is enough money in the country to make everyone there solidly middle-class. But the amount of intractable corruption is so staggering that public officials raid government coffers and do absolutely nothing for regular people. If Nigeria followed Norway's footsteps with reinvesting in its people with oil money, we'd be singing a different tune about shithole countries. Corruption is rampant in Russia too. Putin perfected the kleptocratic model Trump is partially emulating via lack of personal business transparency. Add sanctions to Russia's problems and it's no surprise the plebeians are most affected."




I say the same.




Except this strange"opinion"- kleptocratic model Trump is partially emulating".
 

Carmine Falcone

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I think you have that mixed up, Conservatives are more open minded and do not follow the media so blindly.

Keep in mind my statement, while a tad harsh, is based on the American conservative. The Canadian variety may be more principled and consistent than ours. For example, it was laughable to hear some US conservatives last week say Oprah isn't fit for office because she has no governmental experience. They're 100% right of course. The consistency problem is that they weren't saying the same thing about Trump, a man who equally lacked any experience--and it shows, no?

I won't get into a debate on conservative open-mindedness vs. liberal. Fox News is the number one news network because conservatives want news that validates their worldview rather than the unvarnished truth. CNN and MSNBC do this as well in response/capturing a market niche so naturally I have issues with both networks but at least the liberal networks realize the media's raison d'etre is challenge serve truth to power--regardless of administration--and not being a propaganda unit or apparatchik.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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. The Canadian variety may be more principled and consistent than ours.

Never knew you were American. As for news agencies, CNN is real left, proven they make up shit against Trump. For myself I read/listen to them all and make up my own mind, be it right for all or not.
The Liberals in Canada seem to cater to the poor and immigrants, in Ontario Wynne is now offering plenty of " free stuff " to get the poor votes since an election is near. The federal Liberals feed off the economic and politically ignorant, making bogus claims and promises they will break but make sure every special interest group gets a selfie and a hug and plenty of free stuff, unless you are a working Canadian.
Enjoy the day.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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I do not think you understand the difference between a question and telling someone how to do something.
 

sambuca

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The Michael Wolff book has been widely acknowledged as tabloid garbage. He himself offers so many caveats about the truth that it's hard to take seriously.

I have no problem people saying they don't like Trump personally. He's a pompous ass. I have no problem with people saying they disagree with a Trump policy. I do have a problem with people repeating fill in the blank, very creative stories about Trump. If speculation is appetizing enough, some will bite.

Russian oligarchs, like all rich people I know, just want to make money. They have no interest investing in Trump unless he can produce a return. They also aren't into investing in bad endeavors ten-fifteen years ago on the odd hopes that he runs for President and pulls the upset of the century twice. First in the primaries, then in the general election. Doc Holliday, you know so much about Trump's finances you could be his accountant or you might be Rachel Maddow. Couldn't blame Rachel for coming to Montreal to buy some carpet to munch.

It's unfortunate that Trump said what he did about Haiti, etc. Canadians can't understand the frustration that many Americans have over our chaotic immigration system. States that are deep in debt are raising taxes and cutting back public services while expanding benefits for illegal immigrants and those with temporary status. California is the perfect example of how you can make a state solidly Democrat through the process of catering to a special group at the expense of all other residents. Canada is far more selective in who it lets immigrate and it doesn't have people illegally crossing over it's border by the hundreds of thousands.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Canada is far more selective in who it let's immigrate and it doesn't have people illegally crossing over it's border by the hundreds of thousands.

Yeah.... That kind of changed when Justine took power, he is welcoming all the illegals Trump scared away, gave them health cards, work visas amd a pat on the back. Justine also pays terrorists millions of dollars.... and get this... If you leave Canada, become a terrorist and kill people Justine welcomes you back with open arms.
Give me Trump over that POS we have now.
 

sambuca

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Trump with all his faults was probably still a better choice for the average blue collar American than that entitled bitch Hilary, which is probably the main reason he won. Such a shame that the most powerful and one of the richest countries in the world couldn't come up with better candidates.

I've tried to replay the 2016 primaries and election in my head. I wonder if any other Republican candidates could've cut through the media fog that envelopes and tries to filter U.S. and Western political thought Trump's bombastic talk allows him to talk through this media obfuscation.

It doesn't matter because nobody stepped up and presented a more intelligent and articulate alternative in the primaries. Lindsay Graham (a 2016 candidate) just betrayed the President and the conservatives by aligning with Democrat Dick Durbin "Mr. Sensitive" by proposing a clean DACA amnesty without any substantive changes to border security and immigration policy.

No "real" Republicans down here give a shit about moderate Republicans playing it down the middle like Graham and Flake who recently compared Trump to Joseph Stalin. Senator Flake take your lucrative pension and please bow out gracefully. For you Canadians, Flake is a relatively conservative, but soft on border security Arizona Senator who decided to not run for re-election because of low poll numbers. He obviously blames the Trump effect.

I believe Florida Senator Marco Rubio finally got the 2016 message and is talking straight on immigration issues. Too bad his consultants in 2016 didn't get the memo soon enough.
 

voxclamantis

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Sol Tee Nutz

"I do not think you understand the difference between a question and telling someone how to do something."


It doesn't interest me-what you think.


jalimon
"STN forget it. Vox is way too thin skin for a public board."

Regardez votre miroir.​
 

voxclamantis

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Aujourd'hui Donald Trump-un des plus grands présidents américains-célèbre son 1 anniversaire dans la Maison Blanche!


Bon et Joyeux anniversaire-Donald Trump-le président du peuple pour le peuple et au nom du peuple!


Today Donald Trump-one of greatest American Presidents-celebrates his 1 anniversary in White House!


Good Happy and Joyful Anniversary Donald TrumpPresident of the people for the people and in name of the people!

[FONT=&quot]Oh, say can you see by the dawn’s early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
‘Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave![/FONT]
 

jalimon

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Haha year 1 and the government is currently shut down. Nothing could better represent his year in office ;)
 

voxclamantis

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On a oublié de demander votre opinion.


Et votre"opinion"-comme des autres de même genre-sont comme des petits caillous-jetés au Montblanc.



So sad-we forgot to ask your opinion.


And your"opinion"-like other"opinions"-are like a small stones-twrown onto Montblanc.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
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