Towards the presidential run of 2024
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Embellishment at its finest, again, my main point was that the medias never posted that the loans were paid in full and on time. That would have made the people less angry at Trump and the medias knew that. This is one topic you seem to avoid with your replies.
To suggest that trial by jury of your peers anywhere in the USA is like the preordained show trials in an authoritarian state like Russia is ridiculous.
I've heard this argument before so obviously it was reported by the media. It was entered as evidence by the defendant at trial, so it was heard by the jury too. It didn't matter. It was still fraud.
Clearly you don't know how the jury system works in the USA including in NY and Cali. It's not the defendant's political affiliation that's on trial, it's their alleged illegal conduct.
Have any of you guys actually picked a jury? If you know what the fuck you are doing and ask the right questions you can figure out someone's viewpoints without asking about their political affiliation. I have around 10-15 stock questions I use on jurors in personal injury cases that (along with the answers to their jury questionnaires) tells me if they are a liberal or a conservative. And that's really what I want to know. If I am plaintiff's attorney I want liberals and minorities because generally they will be liberal in giving away a third party's money. And if I am defense attorney I want well educated conservative people with financial backgrounds who understand the value of money. You can find out a lot about a juror's attitude just by asking them what they have read about court cases in the media and what they thought about what they read. You need to get them talking, and the more they talk the more they reveal who they are. I have a very good batting average in picking jurors.
One time as a younger attorney I almost got fired for picking a very liberal college philosophy professor who ended up being Selected as the jury foreman in a disputed liability personal injury case. I represented the black female defendant, a 6 figure wage earner insured by well known insurance company, who was sued by a young white trailer trash plaintiff that was minimally injured. The senior partner looked at the profiles of the jurors I selected and he said to me, "are you out of your fucking mind???? You picked a liberal to be on this jury??????" His client was the insurance company. I said to him, "you know our client is black and it's a disputed liability case, right?" His demeanor immediately changed. He went from livid to calm and composed.
Defense verdict in 30 minutes. Why? Because I picked winners. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.
One time as a younger attorney I almost got fired for picking a very liberal college philosophy professor who ended up being Selected as the jury foreman in a disputed liability personal injury case. I represented the black female defendant, a 6 figure wage earner insured by well known insurance company, who was sued by a young white trailer trash plaintiff that was minimally injured. The senior partner looked at the profiles of the jurors I selected and he said to me, "are you out of your fucking mind???? You picked a liberal to be on this jury??????" His client was the insurance company. I said to him, "you know our client is black and it's a disputed liability case, right?" His demeanor immediately changed. He went from livid to calm and composed.
Defense verdict in 30 minutes. Why? Because I picked winners. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.
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There's lawyers representing both sides who are trying to select jurors who may be more favorable to their arguments. Jurors who are selected take an oath to faithly follow the evidence and the law. The jury system, while not perfect, gets it right most of the time.
Jurors are instructed on the law and hear the evidence, but they apply the law based on their own subjective biases and experiences. They are instructed not to allow sympathy or bias to play a role in their deliberations, but many do. They decide cases from the prism of their own life experiences and their sense of how justice and the law is to be applied. And they have the power to do that, and it is a great power. Many times monetary awards or defense verdicts make no sense, unless you consider the fact that a jury really dislikes the plaintiff or the defendant. I saw this happen one time in another personal injury case, in which the jury delivered a defense verdict in 10 minutes, a record for both of the seasoned attorneys that tried that case (my role was to draft the jury instructions at that time, for the defendant). Our client was not a particularly sympathetic or likeable guy, but the plaintiff was a very entitled Trust fund baby who had not worked a day in his life. The inner city, blue collar workers on that jury that heard that case dispensed some harsh justice to him. The plaintiff's attorney, a friend of mine, later admitted to me his client was an asshole, both in reality and as perceived by the jury, who had stiffed him for 10K in costs. He had only "gone to the mat" for him on that case because he thought he would be a source of good referral business. The plaintiff's counsel's closing argument was actually great, but not enough to overcome an entitled, prima donna plaintiff. The defense strategy on cross examination in that case was very simple: just get this asshole plaintiff talking as much as possible, because the more the jury hears him talk, the more they will loathe him. It worked.
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As interesting as your war stories may be, I think we are getting a little off topic. Can we refocus on the 2024 presidential campaigns?
Meanwhile.....MESSIAH TROMP told CHRISTIANS on Friday to vote '' just this time'' and said '' won't have to do it anymore'' after the elections/November.
''You won't have to do it anymore----4 more years you know what? It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore''
Can't be more crazy/dangerous and full of sh....than that. Not the first time he is referring to subversion of democracy.....
''You won't have to do it anymore----4 more years you know what? It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore''
Can't be more crazy/dangerous and full of sh....than that. Not the first time he is referring to subversion of democracy.....
You would be surprised how much Trump has, and needs, organized religion on his side. I have a client who is a black minister with quite a large congregation. You would think they would be voting Democrat, but they will not be. I have spoken at length to the client and he believes Trump is the only presidential candidate who is a friend to those who believe in God. He will steer his parishioners to vote for him. And his influence on his parishioners is very powerful.
While I personally will not vote for Trump (I do believe he is the better candidate, on a lesser of evils analysis, but don't subscribe to that analysis) he knows exactly what he is doing. He is not subverting democracy. He is securing a part of the voting populace he needs to win. While it sounds like a subversion of democracy, he is just uttering controversial sound bites to get people on his side. Its calculated. And it will work.
The media is saying Harris as the best choice for president, this is the same media that said Biden was of sound mind and body.
Yup.
Yup.
For sure she is the best choice...can't agree more...lolllllll
In the views of many/ DANS LES CIRCONSTANCES/ she is.....lol......BUT i understand in the views of many also TROMP is the best one....can we at least admit we have NOW a tight/competitive race????????
It's close on paper right now- but Harris still has plenty of time to fuck that up, and I wouldn't underestimate her ability to do so.
Perhaps Hannibal Lechter that Trump is admiring !
Trump has fucked up his Presidency after Nov 4th 2020 election by not accepting his lost and doing every dirty and illegal tricks to keep power !
On paper????...she may also have plenty of time to improve......we will see soon......tough to admit we will have a tight one....han???????
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