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Trump will ban "transgender women" (men) from women's sports

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Great news for women's sports! No more penises allowed in the women's locker room!

 
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I looooove seeing this. Perfect timing!

REAL woman power lmao! Enough. I have countless articles about men being transferred to women prisons just because they “identify” as women. Beating, r*ping and impregnating women in prisons. Getting reduced sentences. Enough bullshit. Funny how the woke and rainbow crowd go silent when shit like this happens eh.
 

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It's great to see organizations like the NCAA and a few colleges running scared because of their previous support for men in women's sports.


 
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It makes my blood boil to have watched women get their titles stolen from them. They’ve dedicated their whole lives to a sport just to have it be robbed by males that SUCKED back in the men’s leagues.
I’m really happy this bullshit is ending in the states. Here in Canada everyone’s fkn sleeping still.
 

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After a boy masquerading as a girl recently won a pole vault championship at an indoor track meet in Maine, Trump called out the governor of the state to her face during a meeting of governors at the White House. The State will lose $250M in federal funds if the governor refuses to follow the new federal regulation. :p



 
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The U.S. Justice Department is suing the state of Maine because the state has refused to obey President Trump's executive order banning the participation of males in female sports. Trump had singled out the governor of Maine during a White House governors' meeting because she had announced publicly that the state would not obey the new rule. Maine is not a rich state and losing access to federal funds as a result of its pro-trans policy will be an expensive decision. While some Maine citizens may agree with the governor, my guess is that most people in Maine oppose allowing males to participate in female sports.


Maine is rarely in the national news for anything but recently it drew national attention because a transgender girl (i.e. boy) won a state high school girl's championship in the indoor pole vault. The individual had competed as a boy during the previous two seasons.

 

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It makes my blood boil to have watched women get their titles stolen from them. They’ve dedicated their whole lives to a sport just to have it be robbed by males that SUCKED back in the men’s leagues.
I’m really happy this bullshit is ending in the states. Here in Canada everyone’s fkn sleeping still.
The sad reality is you (as in everyone) can't be allowed to have an opinion down the middle on these... Thats where i am. Yet i still get hate by "trans activists" and i get laugh at by the far other side.

Im gonna use Nicole Maines as an exemple. Loved her in Supergirl. She is trans. No idea if she still have the male parts or not. But truth is i do find her super cute. Maybe it has to do with the character she plays, watching her on TV or whatever, but i can't lie on this that i find her cute. Now would i blow a dick? No... But i could see myself RECEIVING a blowjob from her... I don't consider myself "bi" or anything, but she looks like a woman... at least cloathed as i see her.

But i been following her Insta for a while and she basically dedicate all her life on trans issues and she make ZERO compromise on anything. Either you think like her (you are an ally as they call it) or you are against them. Im neither. Im sooo right in the middle.

I do think its unfair for women to compete in sports against individuals who were born men. And it can be down right dangerous in contact sports.

But i also think trans peoples are peoples and should be allow to live without harassement.

The issue is the "cause" been hijacked by some peoples, like litterally men with beard and then they go on and insist to be call "mam" and refered as woman. Make tantrums online about "transphobia" and make sure to swing at anyone not thinking 100% like them. I think if you are serious on transitioning and go the full process, then fine, you can call yourself a woman. If my eyes can't see the difference, i think you earned that right. But you don't call yourself doctor after spending 1 week in doctor school if you understand what i mean... It take years to achieve the status.

Then there is all the little details like if a person commit a crime, wich prison to go? A line must be drawn and for ME it depend if you still have the male parts... If you do, im sorry but its male prison. If you did everything and became a woman (at least cosmitically) then i think its fine to go to women prison. But its just my opinion. I do think it should be debated and voted on by many peoples and impartially.

I really don't like how as soon as you have an opinion on any issues these days, you get call "ist" or "phobe" even if you bring a rational point of view negated of any "hate".

I don't think its up to peoples to adapt to one's condition.
 

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OK, I understand that physical sports are gender specific. Can’t go against biology. But why chess that is still called “sport” is gender specific? Anyone? Can trans participate in the World Women Chess Championship? Why Olympic Shooting is still gender specific when women are are often the best sharp shooters (I recently saw some documentary about Ukrainian sniper girl) ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_World_Chess_Championship_2025
 
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OK, I understand that physical sports are gender specific. Can’t go against biology. But why chess that is still called “sport” is gender specific? Anyone? Can trans participate in the World Women Chess Championship? Why Olympic Shooting is still gender specific when women are are often the best sharp shooters (I recently saw some documentary about Ukrainian sniper girl) ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_World_Chess_Championship_2025
This article answers the question of why, at the highest levels of the game, men are better at chess than women.


Why are men better than women at chess?

This is the question that Carole Hooven, author of the excellent book Testosterone: The Story of the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us, takes up in a new article in Quillette. What I like about the article is that it appears to consider every available hypothesis, and uses a scientific approach to finding evidence that either supports or weakens many of them. She tentatively settles on one that may be evolutionary in its origin, but I’m getting ahead of myself...

...Males are innately better in traits that lead to success in chess. These involve average differences in traits and not just variances, and could include spatial ability, degree of aggression, drive to win, other aspects of cognitive ability, dedication to the sport so that one practices a lot more, and so on. Note that “innately” implies the differences don’t result from socialization or sexism, but are the same kind of differences that gives men advantages in “regular” sports. Of course these innate differences could interact with other factors, as the phenotype here (chess performance) always involves an interaction between genes and one’s environment.

Ultimately, Hooven considers this the best explanation because there is independent evidence that men excel in the kind of motivation, competitiveness, and “obsessive passion” that leads to monomaniacal focus not just on winning, but on practicing:

A more promising explanation for male dominance in elite chess involves motivation. A large body of research strongly suggests that the sexes differ in their preferences for competition. As both Kasparov and Repková have intuited, men are simply more competitive—that is, they have a stronger motivation not just to compete, but to win, in formal physical and non-physical competitions of all kinds.
Men are more likely to choose games that involve direct, one-on-one competition, in which the result is a clear winner and loser—such as chess. Women are less competitive even when interacting anonymously—for example, in online arenas such as massive multiplayer role-playing games. This applies even when players interact using avatars of the sex opposite to their own; situations in which social expectations and stereotypes should have a reduced influence on in-game behavior. Women’s performance and enjoyment tends to suffer when the competition intensifies; that is, when the stakes are highest or time pressure is applied. For example, the average male-female sex difference in “blitz” chess games, which allocate ten minutes or less for each player to make all of their moves, is greater than that observed in standard chess, in which each player has at least an hour and a half. Moreover, relative to men, in experimental and real-life conditions, women tend to opt out of tournament conditions.
So it’s not surprising that females, being less focused (on average, as usual) on crushing an opponent in some future tournament, might be less motivated to go in for the kind of hardcore practice that’s necessary to develop elite skills (“deliberate practice,” as it’s called, as distinct from simply practising by playing).

. . . . If your instinct tells you that males will be disproportionately drawn toward this kind of intense practice style than females, you’re correct. Studies show that boys and men are more likely to exhibit a “rigid persistence in an activity,” by which “the passion controls the individual” (“obsessive passion” in the literature). In anecdotal terms, we are talking here about the man who drops everything to become, say, a 16-hour-per-day videogamer, or a day-trader, or chess addict. Yes, some women take on these kinds of fixations. But men do it more often, and with greater intensity.

It’s long been known that measures of risk-taking, competitiveness, persistence, and aggression are higher in men than women, so this may be a key factor in the explanation. But are these differences due to evolution or socialization? After all, men are expected to be aggressive and behaviorally conform to a “male stereotype”. On the other hand, that stereotype itself could reflect behavior instilled by natural selection more in one sex than another, so it’s seen as the norm.

Hooven comes down on the evolution side, and I pretty much agree with her given these arguments as well as others (e.g., socialization should differ among human societies but the average behaviors don’t; our closest primate relatives, who aren’t socialized, show similar difference in aggression and competition, there are biological reasons to expect higher competition in males, and these traits begin to manifest themselves at a young age, presumably before much socialization can take place). Luana Maroja and I discuss similar sex differences in behavior (and their possible evolutionary roots) in our Skeptical Inquirer paper on ideology and biology.

Hooven:

That said, I don’t see evidence for the idea that socialization alone explains the stronger male tendency to focus obsessively on doing whatever is necessary to win, even at board games. And there are good reasons to think that this tendency has an evolutionary basis: In the animal kingdom, males tend to devote more time, energy, and risk to status competition, since this tends to pay more reproductive benefits for males than females. So it’s not unreasonable to suspect that boys and men have some kind of biological advantage—possibly underpinned by higher lifetime exposure to testosterone—that helps explain their over-representation in tournament-level competition in general. (While this particular brand of competitiveness may have a strong evolutionary explanation, it is unlikely to be the wisest reproductive strategy in today’s world.)

If this is the case, what about FIDE’s decision to ban transwomen from their women’s chess tournaments? (Some countries, including England, Germany, France, and the United States, don’t uphold this ban in their national tournaments.) In the end, since Hooven concludes that biological factors play a key role in men’s dominance in chess, for the time being FIDE’s ban makes sense:

Ultimately, sex differences in complex behaviors and skills are always a product of interactions between biology on the one hand (that is, our genes and their relatively fixed effects, such as hormone levels and body size) and our environment on the other (that is, factors such as our family circumstances, social dynamics, and cultural norms). Interactions between the two shape not only our skills and abilities, but also any emerging group differences. But none such complicating factors change the fact that the sex gap in chess is real and persistent. Given the circumstances that led to the creation of the female category, and the fact that many girls and women appreciate what this category offers, FIDE is correct to take the steps necessary to protect its integrity.
Of course the data we really need are the chess performance of transwomen playing against biological women, and as far as I know we don’t have that kind of data.
 

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This article answers the question of why, at the highest levels of the game, men are better at chess than women.

Bottom line: biology differentiates mails and females well beyond their obvious physical abilities. This differentiation also defines their social behavior and their specific roles in society. So, with account of these differences does a very primitive and simplified “equal treatment” or “gender equality” as propagated now in Western societies make any rational sense? Should we replace it with the notion of a fair treatment with account to gender specifics? For example, in many countries retirement age for women is considerably lower than for men with account that women perform specific service to the society by giving birth and doing more household work. Similarly, men are additionally reworded for performing obligatory military service and doing other risky jobs. Are these societies sexist?
 
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