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Flyingby

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Don’t know if you guys want to debate this but here goes
Just like there are shills on this board, there are also unnecessary bad reviews
I LOVE that Euphoria sets the story straight when somebody gets out of line.

I recently saw a girl that I have already reviewed in the past and told her about a certain thing that she did that irked a member and the john wrote it in his review.

Her reply. Yes i did do that. The guy was a creep and he knew it. I could not stand being with him any longer than our time together.

So all i am adding now is. There are always three sides to a story. The reviewers opinion, the ladies version. And what really happened.
So my point? Guys, when you are a douche, don’t bitch out the lady, don’t try and ruin her rep.
You’re a douche, deal with it!
 

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I`ve been accused of being a shill , but without an ounce of evidence to back it up. I deal with all reputable agencies and review all women that I had a great time with.....agency girls and indies. I don`t enjoy writing negative reviews , but will on rare times post a negative comment .

Now the negative reviews that bother me are the payback or blackmail reviews. If a girl has pages of great reviews and a guy comes out of the woodwork, writes that she had a bad attitude and didn`t offer this or that.....maybe he should look in the mirror first.
 

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Oh you know... I think a very good % of bad reviews come from a mantrum lol. Lots of clients will say "she’s a clock watcher" when what they really mean is "I tried to overstay". Lots of guys will say "Service was mechanical" in order to avoid saying "She was good but for x reason my dick wouldn’t get up". Lots of bad reviews have to be taken with a grain of salt because one thing you learn with time is guys review their own self here too, not just the girl, and if anything touches a man’s ego (like a soft dick or not being able to overstay or bend someone’s boundaries), they can be very childish lol
 

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I would tend to agree with everything Julia stated.
So far I have been very lucky or I have picked fabulous SP because I have yet to have an even mediocre experience.

I only have one comment and it doesn’t apply to anybody I have been with, just something I notice on many SP Twitter account.

There seems to be so much bitching over time, that when it is over it is over and only time paid for should be spent there.
Nothing ticks a person off more than when they are reminded of time, what is a couple of minutes compared to keeping a customer, is this time better spent complaining and bitching for hours on Twitter.

Some of these ladies really come across as nothing but ATM machines or that they actually hate men and I wonder why men don’t read their Twitter or if they do why they still book them. Then there are others that really do a fabulous marketing job and they are the ones that when you meet them provide you with an amazing experience.
 

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The “clock watcher” critiques usually are coming from serial cheapasses who can’t afford to book long enough appointments to comfortably take care of business and I generally can read between the lines on them. A very high % of bad reviews have no of little credibility. I can recall the poster who posted the first bad review on an Eleganza agency escort, previously well reviewed. She came on the board and posted a scathing rebuttal to the review, in which she graphically described the awful personal hygiene of the reviewer while confirming she had actually seen him. This led to the Moderator ban on agency escorts, rather than the agencies themselves, responding to bad reviews in a review thread. Euphoria in the past has done a classy and credible job of “setting the record straight”, but the reader shouldn’t wait for that to happen. This is the unregulated internet where anyone with some agenda can say anything, and the reader should know to read between the lines. Read whole threads and posting histories. Some posters tend to be negative on anyone they review and usually harp on the same issues; others are clearly more balanced and fair. To me it’s very similar to restaurant reviews on Yelp, where you also see a lot of shilling.
 

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I don’t know, I wouldn’t dismiss a review so easily as it being from a cheapass because usually when a girl is accused of being a clock watcher the rest of the review is not a glowing report either, because most “clock watchers” can’t wait to get rid of you and are only there for one thing.
I read the whole review and past reviews on other SP before I pass judgement.
 

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I always see the term "clockwatcher" and debate around it. But its something i find hard to debate on either side. I think we already did not that long ago and i had stated my opinion but will do again. I think guys should watch for the time, its part of the "rules" , at the same time i think escorts should be a bit lenient. What i mean is if the guy is actively jerking himself to cum and you can see he is getting close, and the alarm start up (wich was put for 8/10 mins before the end in outcalls) then don't get up and be "times up" and go in the shower , that would be horrible to do lol. On the counter part when the guy hear the alarm, you know you have to cum in the next 1 to 2 mins... so lets go :/

In incalls i know there is clients that really try to overstay the meeting and its a bit different. Im not too experienced in them myself so its harder to comment but the few times i did incalls i found it much harder to "gauge my time" and be out in time. I may have been 5 min or so "overtime" despite really trying to respect the time allowed. But it may be because i really not used to incalls, and did them very very sporadicaly.


Some of these ladies really come across as nothing but ATM machines or that they actually hate men and I wonder why men don’t read their Twitter or if they do why they still book them. Then there are others that really do a fabulous marketing job and they are the ones that when you meet them provide you with an amazing experience.

I agree with this. Some escorts on twitter are great to follow, they engage positively, they post nice pictures and never complain. Others not so much.... There is the e-beggers and the complainers. One in particular that i have in mind, wich i won't name, constantly e-beg for money and gift. I even saw her once demand that peoples send her money gifts before she post another picture on her onlyfans, wich is already a prenium paid service. :O And when it comes to the "complainers" yeah well the name say it all, they constantly complain on the clients. Sometimes its with reason, sometimes not so much. I try to not follow them but the worst part is when they get retweet by somebody you do follow. That person may not be a complainer herself, but she did retweet it, so .... Anyway... Ill admit i got in twitter arguments a few times myself in the past because it frustrated me. I try to avoid it as much as possible these days...

And to finish and go back on reviews themselves... well obviously there is always more than 1 side to a story. I take every reviews individually and make my mind on it. Depending on the number of reviews she has, the % of positive vs negative, i always look at the reviewer, try to see what type of reviews he usually post, how many he posted in totals, stuff like that. Credibility is obviously earned.

But one thing that do bug me is that i know for a fact some clients refuse to do negative reviews, and only do positives. If they have a bad experience they will just "absorbe it" and move on, no big deal to them. Sadly this way of doing kinda "false the result" in a way. So if one client make a negative review and he didn't just signed up, and i know he post good reviews as well or in other words he is credible, even if its the ladies first negative review i try to take it seriously because it can mean many guys before him did had a similar experience and just didn't post about it.

In any case, reviews are not "facts" and are always subjective, just gotta keep that in mind. But they do help a lot unlike some peoples would want the general public to believe. I came across an article by somebody yesterday who depicted Merb in a bad way, mentioning "hobbyist making graphic reviews" and how , according to this person, most of the time it was exagerated and innacurate. Well i can say personally im glad review boards exist and help me make the best choices possible in my meetings.
 

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I agree that reviews, positive or negative, should be considered with some scrutiny. It's also important to remember that different guys have different tastes.

This issue touches a nerve for me, because it wasn't long ago I wrote a rather lengthy review describing my disappointment with my very first rendezvous. As I acknowledged in that review, my expectations as a first-timer may have been somewhat unrealistic and there were some mistakes on my part that created some obstacles for both of us. Some of what I wrote may have been overly harsh, but I did my best to give an honest and detailed account of what I experienced and how it made me feel.

Positive or negative, reviews are only valuable insofar as they are honest and detailed, describing the experience as objectively as possible. Ultimately, we all have to make judgements about whether the reviewer is a trustworthy source and how valuable their opinion is. Reviews from newer accounts with low post counts are naturally going to be more suspect. If a guy has shown very different preferences from my own, I might question what he considers to be short/tall, skinny/fat, etc. If a reviewer tends to write reviews that focus primarily on whether or not an SP allows their favorite acronyms, I probably won't put a lot of stock in what they say about an SP's personality.
 
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But one thing that do bug me is that i know for a fact some clients refuse to do negative reviews, and only do positives. If they have a bad experience they will just "absorbe it" and move on, no big deal to them. Sadly this way of doing kinda "false the result" in a way. So if one client make a negative review and he didn't just signed up, and i know he post good reviews as well or in other words he is credible, even if its the ladies first negative review i try to take it seriously because it can mean many guys before him did had a similar experience and just didn't post about it.

I honestly feel like some people who consider themselves "hobbyists" have an opposite way of thinking.
Like they almost seem happy when they have a bad experience cause they GET to write a bad review.
I've always wondered how someone can get so rich and bored that they would rather have bad sex so they could write about it lol

Let's be honest, everyone constantly talks about shills, and people have a hard time believing good reviews for some reason.
I recently saw a client who was genuinely SURPRISED that my reviews were real, because they are all positive ???
 

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What you see is what you get. The people who are whiners and complainers in all aspects of their lives will be consistent with that personality on an internet board. Those who live by the motto that if you don’t have anything good to say about someone, don’t say anything, will more likely refrain from bad reviews. I personally place very, very little importance on bad reviews unless they are consistent or numerous and come from at least 2-3 posters with established credibility. Otherwise, I presume bullshit. That’s the way I have always operated on MERB for many years. If you rely on an odd or one off bad review(s) you can miss a lot of good action.
 

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But one thing that do bug me is that i know for a fact some clients refuse to do negative reviews, and only do positives. If they have a bad experience they will just "absorbe it" and move on, no big deal to them. Sadly this way of doing kinda "false the result" in a way. So if one client make a negative review and he didn't just signed up, and i know he post good reviews as well or in other words he is credible, even if its the ladies first negative review i try to take it seriously because it can mean many guys before him did had a similar experience and just didn't post about it.

There is some merit to what you state HM....but keep in mind that its more complex. Most guys are too lazy or couldn`t care less to write any reviews. Its called being selfish. Some reviews are better than no reviews as long as they are honest reviews.
There is something else too. For you its a hobby and for her its a lively hood. Something like when it comes to ham and eggs....the hen is involved but the pig is committed
After I see a girl, I`m faced with 3 scenarios.
1) I have a fantastic time and I write an over the top review because that`s how I feel.

2) I have a good time but nothing out of the ordinary....no review because I have nothing to add to her thread.

3) Not a great time. No review because I have no idea if it was my fault, her fault or both our faults....so its safer not to write anything....unless she obviously has a bad attitude and then I`ll write a negative comment but not a full review. I may not have liked her face, or body, or her personality or service....chalk it up to bad chemistry and move on.

I remember a time before Merb when I took a chance on an Indy with no pics or reviews. She walked into my hotel room and I said to myself that I wouldn`t kiss her if she paid me. I gave her 50 and asked her to leave. She wouldn`t accept the money but asked me not to write a review of me turning her away. The pleading and sad look in her eyes still haunts me to-day. I didn`t write a review since the fact that I didn`t care for her was my problem and not hers.
 

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Cloudsurf,

She refused your appropriate $50 send off money offer because she knew it might entitle you to write a bad review. It was wise of her not to accept the send off offer. I suspect that back in the pre 2002 days when there weren’t many pics, turnaways at the door were much more common. She recognized that such a bad review could be a career-killer, especially coming from a guy with a rep for writing effusive reviews that have often been criticized as shill reviews, as you yourself have acknowledged. Such a review, from you, would have been devastating to her.
 

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Jesus Christ. Lol. Most anyone who post a bad review is either whining, cheap, or has characteristics that makes them a bad client from jump, really? All escorts across Montreal are perfect....give me a break. I saw a bllady awhile ago and the experience was average. I don't care enough to write a detailed critique and or tear down, but if I did it would be completely valid. I don't need an extended posting history to offer critisicism or compliments. Anyone who isn't maliciously terrible I'd just ignore. Halloween Mike is dead on in that respect. And I believe many share the same mindset that technique and enthusiam will be most important in the decision making with everything else falling to the wayside. Cause what is the point if the sex is bad??? Whether it's a negative or positive review, if you don't read between the lines you're a ...

Isn't clock watching meant to infer someone who cuts time substantially short as opposed to someone who respects it?? Just people, like everything in life, be misusing terms.
 

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Onlydoggy. I am not talking about writing a review where the girl was not up to standards. I am talking about writing a bad review when the cause of the poor service is the johns fault. Guys. When you try stupid shit or push boundaries or try to get a discount or complain about not getting your full 60 mins. Not the girls fault. Your fault.
What i am saying is don’t turn around and write a bad review out of spite
 

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Isn't clock watching meant to infer someone who cuts time substantially short as opposed to someone who respects it?? Just people, like everything in life, be misusing terms.


No.
To me it means somebody that warns you 15 minutes before your time is up and makes sure that you don’t stay one minute past what you have paid for ( I prefer to watch my own time and don’t stay beyond what is agreed upon).
Usually someone that does that your session probably wasn’t that great anyway and you are more than ready to leave on your own.

Someone who cuts you substantially short is simply a cheat and deserves a bad review, that is if you haven’t been a dick and deserved far more than being cut short.
 

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just a newbie's opinion, I think both sides should just stop treating "reviews" that seriously. Even well-established brand like Apple has fan boys and haters, sometimes you just have to take a chance and shake it off.

Plus, I trust people could smell the stink of an ill-intended review from miles away, they are only trashing their own reputation.
 

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Onlydoggy. I am not talking about writing a review where the girl was not up to standards. I am talking about writing a bad review when the cause of the poor service is the johns fault. Guys. When you try stupid shit or push boundaries or try to get a discount or complain about not getting your full 60 mins. Not the girls fault. Your fault.
What i am saying is don’t turn around and write a bad review out of spite

I hate very positive, lengthy reviews to girls whom when I met turned out to be so odd. They are fake. A lot of reviewers were setting their standard bar low, or they are shilling. I almost wanted to quit the hobbies at one time because I could not find a girl of my type.
I like negative reviews, at least to save not wasting time in some girls. There is usually a reason why a guy writes a bad review; the girl might be nice to you, but not so nice to him or me.
I don't like to write bad review; but sometimes do.
 

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just a newbie's opinion, I think both sides should just stop treating "reviews" that seriously. Even well-established brand like Apple has fan boys and haters, sometimes you just have to take a chance and shake it off.

You are right on target with your post, daplaoke. Ultimately you just have to take chances to some extent, and the best ladies I have seen were all YMMV on their reviews.
 

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just a newbie's opinion, I think both sides should just stop treating "reviews" that seriously. Even well-established brand like Apple has fan boys and haters, sometimes you just have to take a chance and shake it off.

Agree with daplokle. Best you can do is find a couple of people whose tastes seem to line up with your own and use them as a guide, everything else is pretty hit or miss.
 
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