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The Nature Boy

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What exactly are we debating here? Kinda lost.....obviously if someone’s a douche they don’t know they are one likely. They’ll be no acceptance on their part, just denial. They’ll continue to treat peeps with disrespect.

if u wanna discuss...discuss when to write a bad review. Why would u write a bad review, ie circumstances behind one. How can u effectively put forward constructive criticism in a dignified manner for a SP.

heres a question. Have u ever gone and saw a provider and had a lackluster experience and written a review or given the booker feed back went back to see her and totally blown away by stellar service?
 

Halloween Mike

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I honestly feel like some people who consider themselves "hobbyists" have an opposite way of thinking.
Like they almost seem happy when they have a bad experience cause they GET to write a bad review.

I can't speak for others but in my case i REALLY try to have the best sessions possible (dans mes moyens bien sur) and i am more than happy to make a great review if its deserved. I rather not make negative reviews, ill do only if i need to because thats the purpose of the board.

There is something else too. For you its a hobby and for her its a lively hood.


3) Not a great time. No review because I have no idea if it was my fault, her fault or both our faults....so its safer not to write anything....unless she obviously has a bad attitude and then I`ll write a negative comment but not a full review. I may not have liked her face, or body, or her personality or service....chalk it up to bad chemistry and move on.

Its possible to make an honest review leaning on the negative while still being polite and considering toward the SP. As a client you have to try your best to be "the best you" but at the same time if it does not click, it does not. You can mention it and just precise that it may have been a lack of chemistry. This is what i did in my Nikita review and i didn't felt like i was "bad" to her in any way. I said things as they are. I am aware that i am an overweight starting to go bald metalhead who loves video games ... I know not every escortrs will click with me for various reasons. But her job as an SP is to ACT, make me feel like i am special, like i am "the king" for that specific hour. By that obviously i don't mean worshiping lol, im sure you get the point. Some are better actresses than others, some may not be conversation prone but make up for it with a great sexual drive. Either way im cool with it. I mean if we talk for 2-3 mins and its obvious we have nothing in common and she couldn't care less if i talk to her about what i like, then just jump on me and shut my mouth with your lips :p That will be cool for me.

As for look its a bit more touchy, i don't like rating "a body" because its very subjective and im not in the best shoes to be judgy of a look lol, but again its possible to say it diplomately.

This issue touches a nerve for me, because it wasn't long ago I wrote a rather lengthy review describing my disappointment with my very first rendezvous.If a reviewer tends to write reviews that focus primarily on whether or not an SP allows their favorite acronyms, I probably won't put a lot of stock in what they say about an SP's personality.

Your review was overall fine. Maybe the "sex doll" part was leaning a bit on the "harsh" but beside that you called it as you saw it. You even mentioned it was your first meeting so peoples can take that factor too. And for having seen that provider, i had a very similar meeting so i know your review was totally possible. Now when it comes to "first rdv" there is different kind of them, my first rdv was my first time having sex period, so i wasn't too demanding lol. Other guys may had sex with pretty girls and just never tried an escort.

But i can tell you that back then i had some VERY AWESOME first meetings. If i put aside my 2 terrible experiences in Sherbrooke that happened 2 years before, my very first one was just a BJ (took me some time to get to business and was enjoying my very first BBBJ) but it ended in a COF and the girl was very pretty with a killer body (natural Ds) , this was a Montreal lady touring, then i came to Montreal and had my first FS/First CIMSW (x2) lol. The girl in question was soooo hot, like unbelievably hot. At that time i didn't expect to book anybody else afterward, all i was thinking was to come back and seeing her again, but 3 weeks later she left the business for good (or at least merb agencies). I heard some peoples say she got into the massage parlor business but i was too green to even think about trying that and i wasn't sure. Anyway...

Then i saw my third MTL SP wich was "good" but far from the first 2. My fourth one was the famous Chloe Milan so again one hell of a great time. After that this is where it got more on the "montage russe" between "good and average" so because i had such great times with 3 out of my first 4 bookings, i was maybe a bit too much comparing to those and at that time the agencies where a bit more "rocky" than today. My point in saying all of this is maybe if i had started with "average to good but not great" bookings, who knows how things would had turned. Maybe i would had enjoyed them more because i wouldn't had compare them to the awesome ones, maybe i wouldn't had get hooked by Montreal and not sink thousands of $ in the hobby... LOL

There is some times i remember around 2011 or so that i really tough about stoping this entirely, one pretty bad booking in particular that i remember, but then when i came back afterward i had a tremendous time and it gave me the joy in the hobby back.

Basically everything is subjective and depends on the clients point of view, and you can always mention such factors but also you are free to review accordingly WITH those factors.

EDIT : I forgot to add about the last part. Acronymes are important for me and i love when reviews have them. Even tough YMMV can be a thing, if i see the same acronymes repeat with many clients i know my chances are good to get them. Now this does not mean i don't give importance to the personality, look or chemistry. Even if the girl allow all the acronymes i like, if the chemistry is not there, it will be very "meh". Maybe im demanding but i like to get the whole package. I may state if she does not allow cim or cof or whatever, but i don't consider it as a "negative against her". Sometimes i try my luck and i loose... Other times i prefer to wait for more reviews and be more likely to get them. Also with some bookers i know i can ask more freely but some others may not like to discuss this on phone. Its a case by case...
 

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I've always wondered how someone can get so rich and bored that they would rather have bad sex so they could write about it lol

Or maybe it's because they are so full of themselves and cant admit they are lousy lovers?

I am targeted as a major shill here. That makes me laugh so hard. But not has hard as the girl who I see ;)

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jalimon

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Isn't clock watching meant to infer someone who cuts time substantially short as opposed to someone who respects it?? Just people, like everything in life, be misusing terms.

Agree here. Watching the clock could be just what it is... Knowing how much time you have left.

I still remember vividly Sonia fist pumping me because she found out we still had 15 minutes left ;)

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It came up a couple of times - is "the chemistry didn't work" considered a bad review? I wouldn't read that as a bad review if I read it. Especially if they said why. If they say they escort was a cute geek but they wanted a mysterious sex goddess so it just kinda didn't work, I wouldn't consider that a bad review.
 

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It came up a couple of times - is "the chemistry didn't work" considered a bad review? I wouldn't read that as a bad review if I read it. Especially if they said why. If they say they escort was a cute geek but they wanted a mysterious sex goddess so it just kinda didn't work, I wouldn't consider that a bad review.

This is an interesting question, because a significant number of "bad reviews" that I have read, praised as credible by others, were nothing more than "that dude got the short end of the YMMV stick with that lady." There are a fair number of members, even including some veterans, who do not see when a review basically distills to that underlying truth- YMMV shortfall. It usually starts with the reviewer himself, although he will use cues like "the chemistry was off" and "she seemed like she did not want to be there" (which of course may have been because she was holding her nose at the armpit stink) and "she seemed to lack enthusiasm" or "seemed tired and off her game". Some of the latter reviews were ladies at the ends of their shifts, or after having seen a bad client. This is why I go back to the daoploke comment- you just can't take reviews seriously, and should view them with jaundiced eyes except in the few cases where the reviewer's tastes align precisely with yours.

There was such a reviewer whose tastes so closely aligned with mine that we ended up seeing all of the same ladies. We had exactly the same tastes in women. A guy with the handle of Rex Kramer. He has not posted in years, but from around 2004-2011 or so Rex and I probably saw 25-30 of the same ladies and we would compare notes and often had the exact same impressions. I eventually met Rex, and considered him like a brother as far as the person in the business whose tastes most closely aligned with my own. We stayed in contact for many years, but he has not been on MERB in quite some time. I have not found anyone to replace Rex. But when he wrote any review, I immediately banked it. Can't say the same about any other poster since then, because Rex and I just happened to have the same exact taste in women.
 

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Unpopular opinion: I will watch the clock to be sure I don't kick you out without warning because there is a girl coming just after me. We share incalls with other girls and if I keep you for more than 5 minutes I might loose the right to rent my incall place :( I think a lot of girls are in this situation. It's our job! It's a cool and sexy job but still! So the best is to ask if you can add 30 minutes when I tell you we have 15 minutes left and if I can or if the girl can she will surely be happy to add it but you must pay for the time. I don't stick to my dentist place after our rendezvous because I respect their time. But I agree with Halloween Mike with the way to do it and to be concilient. It's just professionalism!
 

Carmine Falcone

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Interesting thread indeed. I try to minimize the whole clock issue by placing the clock in our general field of vision so neither of us is turning towards the side of the bed. It's easier to do a surreptitious glance when you're already looking in the same direction. I do outcall so I don't know how things are set up at an incall place. Surely, it can't be that difficult.

On the topic of giving bad reviews, GMA captured my own approach pretty well. I tread lightly and I'm partly hesitant with negative reviews because the fact that I had a poor time with her doesn't mean someone else will. And I'm also very mindful of exactly what Cloudsurf and EagerBeaver said about damaging someone's future earnings with a negative review. If the lady in question is not up to par, enough consensus will build and several people will come to the same conclusion. However on the flipside, every positive review I write is always an attempt to capture how enamored I was with the woman and how good she made me feel.
 

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The problem also goes that there are not many good reviews lately. Anybody else notice? Guys are keeping girls low key. Once girl told me through pm she’s been fully booked for weeks and zero reviews...0 reviews. Maybe 10-12 guys a week.
Is she a mediocre escort who by chance gets FULLY booked? Or are people keeping their atf’s secret
 
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The problem also goes that there are not many good reviews lately. Anybody else notice? Guys are keeping girls low key. Once girl told me through pm she’s been fully booked for weeks and zero reviews...0 reviews. Maybe 10-12 guys a week.
Is she a mediocre escort who by chance gets FULLY booked? Or are people keeping their atf’s secret

That is a very good point. One of my best friends works for a top agency and is fully booked each night she works, but only 1 review from her previous agency from months ago.
I'm starting to think people are sharing info on back channels and trying to keep their atf "secret"?
 

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Ça reste une question de chimie entre les 2 alors je ne pense pas qu'un seul commentaire puisse définir quelle genre de rencontre on peut s'attendre avec telle personne. Il faut en avoir plusieurs pour se faire une idée.

Mais il reste que ce n'est qu'un indice car on ne peut jamais être certain que ça va cliquer ou non avec une telle.

Moi personnellement, je n'écris pas de commentaires quand ça clique plus ou moins avec une fille. Ça ne donne rien. Je vais écrire un mauvais commentaire seulement si l'attitude à été vraiment mauvaise
 

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Oh you know... I think a very good % of bad reviews come from a mantrum lol. Lots of clients will say "she’s a clock watcher" when what they really mean is "I tried to overstay". Lots of guys will say "Service was mechanical" in order to avoid saying "She was good but for x reason my dick wouldn’t get up". Lots of bad reviews have to be taken with a grain of salt because one thing you learn with time is guys review their own self here too, not just the girl, and if anything touches a man’s ego (like a soft dick or not being able to overstay or bend someone’s boundaries), they can be very childish lol

Exactly.

Many guys will use boards and threats of bad reviews to get unavailable services as well.

There are some justified reviews but there some you can just tell the guys ego got hurt and he is lashing out.
 

Halloween Mike

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Its always been like that guys, don't forget that even tough we are active on merb, lots of peoples do not know of the place and lots of peoples are just lurkers and never intend to ever become active.

Sometimes i pest a bit about TER and the fact you need to do reviews to acces the reviews, i purposely delay my reviews til there is a couple new reviews im interested of reading because one review is only 2 weeks of "vip" with acces to the reviews and considering i book every 2-3 months at the minimum, i can never be "always vip"

But at least that system assure that peoples that want to access the reviews do review.

Can it lead to false/made up reviews? Possible...

Nothing is perfect. But ill admit im not a fan of long time lurkers who NEVER contribute. Im not talking being active in the lounge like we do, but at least make reviews from time to time.
 

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Since I visit Montreal from out of town, I write reviews for pretty much every girl I book. Part of it is a simply reviewing services, but the other part is celebrating the fun of the trip. The times i dont review a girl is when I have posted more than once already on her thread. If I have already given 2 reviews in the past, a third is basically shilling. The only other time I didnt review a girl was an agency girl who had a very unattractive face. Her body was great and she was an absolute sweetheart. She was eager to do whatever it took to give me good service, but I was just turned off by her face - which is a matter of taste. I basically felt that I could never give her a fair review, so I wrote nothing.

That being said, I have written a couple of reviews that were less than glowing. Even though it is a paid service, chemistry is still a part of it. A lack of chemistry could be my fault, the girls fault or both. A quality review should provide enough detail that the reader can make an educated guess about whether the girl is right for him.
 

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That is a very good point. One of my best friends works for a top agency and is fully booked each night she works, but only 1 review from her previous agency from months ago.
I'm starting to think people are sharing info on back channels and trying to keep their atf "secret"?

amelie the back channel of merb is very very solid.

so much is happening in the background with guy you trust that you know friends of your friends will be enough to get the extra booking some girl need.

that said i am disappointed with the lack of review here. the problem is we are always the same to review so it does not take long we are considered as chill...

i cut down on reviews because of that...

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Halloween Mike

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that said i am disappointed with the lack of review here. the problem is we are always the same to review so it does not take long we are considered as chill...

i cut down on reviews because of that...

cheers

Who cares really of what they think? I seen peoples call you shill at that "other board" and i know they don't have kind words for merb, but again who cares... Its the kind of "damn if you do, damn if you don't" kinda situation. Be too positive and you are a chill, be too negative and you are "a bad customer" . LOL.

Sometimes you just can't win, so in that case better do it your way.
 

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If I had a really bad experience with someone not sure I’d write a bad review right off the bat. Yea, you definitely don’t want to hurt some one else’s earnings. But, on the flip side you definitely would not want what happened to you to happen to another monger. Yea there are a lot of “douches” out there but again on the flip side, sometimes there is a SP who comes to work and don’t want to perform and just shouldn’t be in this field. I guess as a hobbyist the best thing to do is be respectful, be clean, never try to steal time from the SP and never haggle. You do that and the bookers and SP’s will know your a legit client. As we all know, word gets around fast in MTL, lol. People know whose the guy who calls Indy’s admin assistants “useless” when they get no responses for obvious reasons and people know who the legit blokes are. So if some shit does go down with a shitty SP, u don’t have to write a bad review. You can just give the bookers a call and explain your side of the story. If you built a rep as a gentleman, chances are the booker will rectify the situation for you and the SP’s future clients. The bookers in MTL are grade A so I’d find it hard to believe a balance wouldn’t be found. In another city if the booker told me “oh well” then I’d give an honest non demeaning review, or as I like to call it, warning to other hobbyists. To me this is fair for all
 

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amelie the back channel of merb is very very solid. so much is happening in the background with guy you trust that you know friends of your friends will be enough to get the extra booking some girl need.
i cut down on reviews because of that...

I agree with this. Bachchannel info from several trusted confidantes is much more valuable than the 7-8 random reviews I read, which are comparatively a pile of shit as far as intelligence that is valuable to me. I will read reviews only as superficial signposts and only on SPs in whom I might be interested. Too many reviews, in any event, good or bad, are exercises in ego stroking, or else very subjectively cover superficial aspects of the encounter. One day I counted how many reviews I read that did not hit on core details that are important to me. I stopped when I got to 10. The core details are: (1) whether the girl speaks good enough English, (2) amount of ink, (3) whether the girl has an overall college girl/student look, and (4) whether BBBJTCIM is available, even at an extra charge, as I will pay it. When a review fails to touch on ANY of these things, it is worthless, and after a while I just stop paying attention to reviewers who negligently fail to address such obvious questions. The confidantes via PM/backchannels, on the other hand, all know what intel I need without me even having to ask. In exchange, I provide intel.

One thing I do not brook is 1 way intel flow. Intel flows both ways or neither way. A couple of b/c lurkers asked me for info and I asked them to provide info. To give, one must get. One hand washes the other. It's an ages old quid pro quo and a rule of the MERB backchannels.
 

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I seldom write a negative review; causes too much bad karma

I myself have received (unjustified) negative job reviews from asshole bosses, who needed a scapegoat to advance their own careers. If I had a bad encounter, I contact the booker and advise them accordingly so the lady can improve her customer service in the future. We all can improve our work performance with constructive criticism.

IMHO, escorting is a very tough job. Who am I to compound her difficulties just because she was having a bad day or that she and I didn't have chemistry -- YMMV. I chalk up a "negative" experience to a learning lesson for me (and hopefully hers). Of course, I don't book SP's who have negative reviews -- I may be dumb but I'm not stupid :noidea:.

If a troll posts a negative review, I hope Johns who have seen her would come to her defense -- we owe it to her. Yes, we give her a donation, but it does not mean we, as human beings, do not have a moral obligation to help set the record straight. We can't let douche-bags to ruin the reputation of a good SP. I think as Hobbyists, we all have that obligation, which will help keep Montreal's Hobbyland honest, safe and enjoyable for the SP's and the Johns.

It's a hobby and without the ladies, this hobby would NOT exist. (True, without Johns, the SPs would not survive financially; Johns and SPs have a symbiotic relationship.) Therefore, there's no need for the John's to do anything to tarnish the reputation of the SP's. (A SP will have no staying power if she does not live up to the demands of the job. The Invisible Hand of the Marketplace will drive away poor performers: they simply won't get "enough" customers.)

That's my two cents.
 

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^^^^^

I would agree with this.
To me the only time for a bad review is when it is a straight forward bait and switch, or someone is being put in actual danger or if the SP resorts to stealing from you.
This can be avoided by sticking with reputable ladies.

The ones that don’t provide a good experience will eventually disappear on their own anyway, nobody repeats a bad session.
 
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