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USA needs to get their shit together so their peeps can enjoy travel and other aspects of normal life. Getting banned from entering a country and then having a “oh well it hurts them more than us” mentality, eh
That wasn't really my point. I was agreeing with sene5shos (which is a rare moment indeed) that the borders should remain closed until at least August 21st. As well as pointing out that Canada gets hurt by this so it's in our best interest to work on getting it open as soon as it's safely possible. Selfishly, I would like the border open so I along with a handful of other Americans on MERB could get back to banging some hot Quebec sp's.
 
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Let's aim for September 1st for the reopening of borders.

In Canada, all the different levels of government agree. Trudeau is in discussion with Trump who would like to reopen the borders with Canada.
I hope Trudeau will say NO.

I don't understand Trump (who understands Trump?)
 

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Let's aim for September 1st for the reopening of borders.

If you meant September 2021 then I am all for it.
such a shame, half my family is in the US and there are a couple of friends I would love to have a beer with on a nice terrace in old Montreal.
With the shit show going on south of us I very much doubt that the borders will open, as scared as Justin is of Trump even he is smart enough to realize that it would be political suicide for him to open the boarders right now or anytime soon.
 

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There is no reason not to open the borders and apply rules on a State by State basis, as is being done right now within the USA. For example, residents of NY, CT and NJ can and should be welcomed. For other State's residents, if they demonstrate a negative Covid test taken within 72 hours, there is no valid reason not to let them in.
 
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The Nature Boy

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I can see letting American into Canada, but unlikely without some quarantine
 

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I can see letting American into Canada, but unlikely without some quarantine
If that were the case, you could certainly expect a veritable stampede of American visitors eager to get into a quarantine on the other side of the border.
 

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I guess if they were all merb members??
 
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Depends on the type of quarantine - if it’s the strictly implemented type where the authorities meet the travellers upon arrival and then confine them in a quarantine hotel room w/ electronic bracelets for 14 days & all; then few tourists if any would be willing to endure that.

On the other hand, if it’s based on the honor system like what the Tri-state area is doing, then lots of people wld be keen since they can just pretend to comply & game the system. But that wouldn’t be a real quarantine and defeats the purpose of preventing coronavirus spread.
 

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No reason to quarantine if you can produce a documented negative Covid test taken within the prior 72 hours. This is exactly the rule Maine now has in place for all 49 other States, AND for Canada and every one else. Which is why I will get tested before my Maine trip. It is Maine that is likely getting the so called "stampede" of tourists who might otherwise be traveling to Canada. It's likely somewhat offsetting the loss of their normal tourist revenue, which is very significant.
 

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Update: Maine has now updated its quarantine rules and 6 States (including CT, NY and NJ) are now exempted, but Canadians ARE NOT EXEMPT:

STATE OF MAINE TRAVEL GUIDELINES
July 1 2020
The State of Maine, its communities, and its diverse tourism and hospitality industries know that visitors want to travel to locations that are safe and healthy, and they want to enjoy the communities, businesses and outdoor locations that make Maine so special.
Guests must adhere to the following requirements and sign the Certificate of Complaince for Maine Visitors attesting they meet these requirements to stay in lodging facilities in the State of Maine.
  1. Receive a negative COVID-19 test in your home state on a specimen taken no longer than 72 hours prior to arrival.
  2. Maintain compliance with a 14-day quarantine upon arrival in Maine.
  3. Maintain complaince with a quarantine in your room for the duration of your stay.
Residents of the following states are currently exempt from the Certificate of Compliance, testing, and quarantine requirements:
  1. Maine
  2. New Hampshire
  3. Vermont
  4. New York
  5. New Jersey
  6. Connecticut
Guests who do not meet the requirements will be turned away from hotels in Maine.
Essential workers
are exempt from testing and quarantine requirements if they are traveling to Maine to perform essential work.
 

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There is absolutely NOTHING stopping Quebec from opening its borders with the same rules that Maine has in place. Perhaps Legault should show everyone that he has a pair of testicles hanging between his legs and follow the lead of Maine. Otherwise, Maine is going to fucking CRUSH Quebec in the battle for the tourist dollars of the "Elite 6" States.
 

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So basically you have to still be in quarantine unless your from these 6 states for 14 days? Being a tourist means you get into Canada and are ready to spend $$$, ASAP. Having to wait 14 days is offsetting.
 

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Nature Boy,

The way the policy was explained to me by the hotel prior to CT residents getting the exemption was that a negative Covid test in the prior 72 hours before the trip got you exempted. I know it does not read that way, but that was what they told me. It does not make sense that you have to both test negative AND quarantine, if you are from one of the non-exempt states. In any event, Legault, if he had adequate testes, could enact that same policy.
 

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Maybe? New Hampshire is about to hold a trump rally. Not sure what sinunus kid is thinking.
 

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It's interesting to note that Rhode Island and Mass., the latter of which is Maine's neighbor to the south after passing through 16 miles of New Hampshire, are not exempt.

Thank you Ned Lamont for getting us on the exempt list!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:
 

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Legault, in case you are reading this as I suspect you are (and I increased font size so you can do so without your glasses), these are the "Sensational 6" States that Maine has exempted:

  1. Maine
  2. New Hampshire
  3. Vermont
  4. New York
  5. New Jersey
  6. Connecticut
 

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Maine just requires the hotel/place of lodging to get visitors to sign a compliance form attesting to having a negative Covid-19 test result in the last 72 hours or having already undergone quarantine. No proof required, just signed forms that r kept by the hotel/place of lodging for 30 days. Frankly speaking, lots of empty talk by the states and no practical way to enforce quarantine.

Hawaii is probably the only state w/ anything close to a proper quarantine process but easier since visitors gotta take a flight in. For the states on the mainland, their borders r just too porous.

Travel bubbles r logistical & legal nightmares. Anyway doubt that Trump is going to negotiate w/ Trudeau just to help out blue states. If the situation was reversed and it was for Florida & Texas then maybe.
 
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No reason to quarantine if you can produce a documented negative Covid test taken within the prior 72 hours. This is exactly the rule Maine now has in place for all 49 other States, AND for Canada and every one else. Which is why I will get tested before my Maine trip. It is Maine that is likely getting the so called "stampede" of tourists who might otherwise be traveling to Canada. It's likely somewhat offsetting the loss of their normal tourist revenue, which is very significant.
The incubation period for COVID-19, which is the time between exposure to the virus (becoming infected) and symptom onset, is on average 5-6 days, however can be up to 14 days. During this period, also known as the “pre-symptomatic” period, some infected persons can be contagious. Therefore, transmission from a pre-symptomatic case can occur before symptom onset.Apr 2, 2020
sorry stay over there .3 day test is worthless if some people can be carriers for 14 days and why the hell should we take a chance letting people in from a country where its running rout of control 50,000+ cases every day.our numbers are low and yours are out of control borough of montreal where i live not a death in a few days and new cases in single digets.
 
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