Hello all
Being a "Booker " is a commitment ,Taking does stats into account 105 hours plus every week .
Some ladies are very well assisted :thumb:
Cheers
Booker
What is your definition of "Indy"?
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Hello all
Being a "Booker " is a commitment ,Taking does stats into account 105 hours plus every week .
Some ladies are very well assisted :thumb:
Cheers
Booker
Hello all,
I had one very long experience with an "Indy". The great thing about getting to communicate with her and see her was the 100% direct personal contact with absolutely no filtering and no go betweens like partners, bookers, or managers. I could understand if at times someone else had to respond because of time restrictions or personal responsibilities. I've been through that kind of dealing with an Indy, but the true Indy is typically in direct contact on every issue most of the time.
Cheers,
Merlot
I had one very long experience with an "Indy". The great thing about getting to communicate with her and see her was the 100% direct personal contact with absolutely no filtering and no go betweens like partners, bookers, or managers. I could understand if at times someone else had to respond because of time restrictions or personal responsibilities. I've been through that kind of dealing with an Indy, but the true Indy is typically in direct contact on every issue most of the time.
Cheers,
Merlot
I don't really mind dealing with bookers. On at least one occasion, I became really friendly with one sp's booker to the point where I think I would have rathered ask her out than meet her employer! I don't have any problem with an sp paying a booker. I've had jobs in the past where I had to answer phones from the general public and you wouldn't believe the stupid fucking things they asked me. Also, sp's have web sites have all of their information on it. Go to the fucking web site and read it! Don't call me up and ask me 50 questions that you could have learned on your own with 10 minutes of personal research. I realize that being a successful sp has a lot to do with successful public relations, but jesus christ, people can be fucking annoying! So, yeah, hire a booker who has a calm demeanor to take care of that for you. I would rather seen an escort that isn't already pissed off at me when I go to meet her. But, then again, I would actually do my research first...
Gentlemen,
I don't have to believe it, I've lived it. For a very long time I had to deal with the same kind of situations. Many people either can't avoid acting helpless or they must enjoy it. So many people ask questions for answers they are looking straight at or try to manipulate the most basic information to create a misunderstanding for some angle they can cheat on. I've also happened to be right behind some people when they were manipulating a situation physically to create a blatant cheat. It's quite ridiculous.
As it relates to this hobby, I'm very aware of what some members have done to deceive or gain advantages, these are the same who will lie to your face after being caught red-handed then accuse you to cover their guilty asses. So when that cheating attitude is used when calling escorts I'm sure the situation can get very dirty.
An honest booker is fine with me, but the fewer go-betweens the less the risk.
Cheers,
Merlot
I don't have to believe it, I've lived it. For a very long time I had to deal with the same kind of situations. Many people either can't avoid acting helpless or they must enjoy it. So many people ask questions for answers they are looking straight at or try to manipulate the most basic information to create a misunderstanding for some angle they can cheat on. I've also happened to be right behind some people when they were manipulating a situation physically to create a blatant cheat. It's quite ridiculous.
As it relates to this hobby, I'm very aware of what some members have done to deceive or gain advantages, these are the same who will lie to your face after being caught red-handed then accuse you to cover their guilty asses. So when that cheating attitude is used when calling escorts I'm sure the situation can get very dirty.
An honest booker is fine with me, but the fewer go-betweens the less the risk.
Cheers,
Merlot
I have to apologize for using such foul language. I normally don't do that. But, I have dealt with the general public A LOT in my life. You can say that 98% of them are great, but when you're driving home at the end of the day and grumbling, it's the 2% that you're thinking about. It can really stress you out. Seriously, being a dick in public has more repurcussions than you probably think. Knock it off. And sometimes if people aren't perfect to your personal standards, give them a break. If they're working some shitty job, there's a good chance that this is their second job, and they're working 70 or 80 hours a week trying to make ends meet. Just stop being a cock for once in your life.
Oh, and support bookers! Did I forget to say that? This was my original intention when I started this post. Go Phil!
EDIT: I continued to use foul language in this post. I'll try to be more calm tomorrow...
Oh, and support bookers! Did I forget to say that? This was my original intention when I started this post. Go Phil!
EDIT: I continued to use foul language in this post. I'll try to be more calm tomorrow...
I agree with all you guys, some people can be a really pain in the as... sometimes.
for myself , it's just about talking directly with her for few minutes, i know that for most of you ,it doen't matter, but for me , just the sound of her voice , the way she talk, can decide if i want to meet her or not.
and that's important for us and that's also our main reason for dealing with indies.
for myself , it's just about talking directly with her for few minutes, i know that for most of you ,it doen't matter, but for me , just the sound of her voice , the way she talk, can decide if i want to meet her or not.
and that's important for us and that's also our main reason for dealing with indies.
Everyone might have different needs and views ,has long as the lady is in no constraint and the client is satisfied !:thumb:
Some of my Good clients where able to speak to the SP's when they where contemplating long bookings ,and like you say Lou hearing her sexy voice might be a Deal Sealed in the Heaven's with the proper Angel :angel:
Cheers
Booker
But to me sometimes the lines is just too thin between real indies and so called indies
Like Jezabelle and Gabrielle garnier and their so called agent phil
When you consider their agent used to work with them at their ex agencies and he is now working.
with them and also when their ads are always posted back to back.
To me it is more a small agency. Agency or not im sure the girls give a great service nothing against that.
To me an indy take care of her things she may be help by an agent but for real an indy the agent is not always taking over
and if it is the case then it is a small agency from my point of view
-Ez
Like Jezabelle and Gabrielle garnier and their so called agent phil
When you consider their agent used to work with them at their ex agencies and he is now working.
with them and also when their ads are always posted back to back.
To me it is more a small agency. Agency or not im sure the girls give a great service nothing against that.
To me an indy take care of her things she may be help by an agent but for real an indy the agent is not always taking over
and if it is the case then it is a small agency from my point of view
-Ez
Sorry but they are not the only ones using their ex agency booker for their so called indies new way of working in this industry.
it looks like there is gonna be more in 2015.
like I said, no problem for me, as long as their ads specify that they are not managing their calls by themself. But i would really like to know who is really answering to their calls.
at least Phil is not hidding in the dark, we know who we are talking to., but i think he shouldn't be using the handle of his girls to make comments in the threads. It's confusing. because yesterday, i tought that it was Gabrielle that was commenting. it's a suggestion, it your own business, not mine.
First, in my opinion, talking to an indy on the phone wont let you know if you'll have chemestry or not. This happens on the meeting and thats it.
Second, I have an important physical handicap, so If someone has a good reason to ask questions or speak directly to the lady, it should be me. And you know what? I really dont care if I speak to a booker or not... It's sometimes even better because he knows the lady well and will let me know if he doesnt think shell be at ease with my situation instead of getting no answer from the lady because she doesnt know what to answer me.
Other questions? Rates? Its all written on the ads. I never had any questions non related to my situation or to the schedule, and dont understand why people have some, just take the RDV and meet her. There is reviews everywhere anyway. Put yourself in her shoes, if every "maybe i'll meet her one day" clients calls and text and email for various questions, the lady can loose sooooo much time for no RDV...
When an indy is really indy, most of the times I got really short and non-well written answers or like 3 days later (i prefer text or emails), so the process of meeting them is much more complicared.
Anyway, this my opinion, but the only important thing to be an indy is to make your own choices about your work and that includes hiring a booker/driver.
Second, I have an important physical handicap, so If someone has a good reason to ask questions or speak directly to the lady, it should be me. And you know what? I really dont care if I speak to a booker or not... It's sometimes even better because he knows the lady well and will let me know if he doesnt think shell be at ease with my situation instead of getting no answer from the lady because she doesnt know what to answer me.
Other questions? Rates? Its all written on the ads. I never had any questions non related to my situation or to the schedule, and dont understand why people have some, just take the RDV and meet her. There is reviews everywhere anyway. Put yourself in her shoes, if every "maybe i'll meet her one day" clients calls and text and email for various questions, the lady can loose sooooo much time for no RDV...
When an indy is really indy, most of the times I got really short and non-well written answers or like 3 days later (i prefer text or emails), so the process of meeting them is much more complicared.
Anyway, this my opinion, but the only important thing to be an indy is to make your own choices about your work and that includes hiring a booker/driver.
Have a question ?
If the SP says on the phone "Can't wait to see you baby ,will have lots of fun "
The same punch line by the "Booker " ?Hummmmm ?
Cheers
Booker
If the SP says on the phone "Can't wait to see you baby ,will have lots of fun "
The same punch line by the "Booker " ?Hummmmm ?
Cheers
Booker
that's exactly my point, i can feel many thing in the voice and the way she talks. good chemiztry start right there for me.
But one thing i haven't said up until now. Once i've met the lady for a first encounters, i don't need to speak to her after, i take my appointment with her by mail or text unless it 's more complicate.
But one thing i haven't said up until now. Once i've met the lady for a first encounters, i don't need to speak to her after, i take my appointment with her by mail or text unless it 's more complicate.
OK, enough, the main reason that a few guys (most are very nice and sincere gents) want to talk to the indy herself is to talk her into and manipulate her into discounts and/or cheaper rates,,,, if you think otherwise you are full of crap! STOP disrespecting the Indy's and pay the rates offered or GTFO of the business and stop hurting the rest of our reputations.
What happened to you my friend ? You had an amazing party last night, you should be happy.
Ok. First, if I want de negociate with girls about the price like you say, I don't need to speak with her on the phone, since I can text her or e-mail her.
My only reason for talking to her is to hear her voice to make sure i'm not talking to anybody else than her.
second, you should know that even some agency can offer deals or rebate , if they want to do so, as we see sometimes in their adds. II've had some agencies that offered me to speak directly with the girl , when she was standing next to him or in his car, and i only ask to her how she feels about meeting my girlfriend, because it's important for us.
I have to agree on one word that you said at the beginning " that's enoug"
actualy this fued between two clan is making feel the girls very incomfortable , because they are caught in the middle of that fued.
For myself, I 'm here for only one reason, i want to meet nice girls to have fun with my girlfriend. i've been put in the middle of that fued for only one reason, and it's because some people started to spread false accusation about us.
So now, i thing everybody should start acting like adult and stop accusing other people just to realise their own agenda.
Mine is to meet girls.
I just wonder what is yours Iggy ?
again, i feel bad for you girls , who are caught in this situation.
Amen.
A few things:
(1) the word is spelled "feud". I know this looks goofy, but that's English for you
(2) I have no problem with you, lou. Please don't see this as an attack.
(3) I also don't find it necessary to speak with an sp before I see her. No biggie. The first meeting is a "Get to know you" meeting. If you want to do anything different or unusual, just save it for later. I don't expect an sp to do cartwheels when we first meet, but she might be into some crazy stuff. Just meet and ask her when you see her.
(1) the word is spelled "feud". I know this looks goofy, but that's English for you
(2) I have no problem with you, lou. Please don't see this as an attack.
(3) I also don't find it necessary to speak with an sp before I see her. No biggie. The first meeting is a "Get to know you" meeting. If you want to do anything different or unusual, just save it for later. I don't expect an sp to do cartwheels when we first meet, but she might be into some crazy stuff. Just meet and ask her when you see her.
ok for feud or fued. at least i try to write in english, since i'm francophone.
for the rest, it my opinion, and you have yours.
respect evryone is the key of success.
le respect est la cle du succes.
for me indys and agencys ladys dont make difrence to me as long as i know who im dealing with since i deal mostly with email and sms for all bookings and then sometimes at end if necesary and importent, than phonecall as last resort so i dont need to hear ladys sexy voice to make apointemnt.
i just perfer dealing with indys more because if i have prfrence, depending on agency owner/booker, i say 90% time, my prfrence is not comunicated to ladys (ex: can she wear this/that?) i never ask anything explict since it "is for time only"
most ladys both pro and reg think they look nicer sans lunettes but without glases see all the time at work, at stores, at restrants, walking on streets/sidewalks, in public transport so sometimes wen i see a pro/sp, i just like the glasses look so mite ask, if u where contacts, can u put glasses on for our meeting?
i consider indy to be indy if she answers most if not all comunications. she can get help but her help (booking, driver, etc.) sould id himself/herself and not act like indy in email/sms/etc. there have been times wen i wrote to "indys" mensioning prferences and base on answers, i book time and then wen i meet the indy, she says she doesnt rember the comunications wich make me think i deal with booker in email/sms. wether this is true that she doesnt rember or wether someone else answerd my email pertending to be her.
everyoine has prfernces and i have delt with some agency owners/bookers where i mension something and ask if lady has prblems with it and then says no but did booker/owner actualy ask lady? i doubt it. i use to book would goodgirls or another agencys and ask a question to booker about ladys prference. once ask james since he is cool wenever i booked and he was working as booker for goodgirls, does the lady prfer not to see ------- (fill in description like short, fat, black, asian, indian, etc.) hobyists. he mensions no problems bud/friend. after a few times doing this, since james seemd cool, i ask him once if he ever actualy ask the lady and he mension for my paricular question, he actualy never asks.
once i brought sexy clothes for dannie from nadyas to whear in meeting and i want to know if wearing sexy clothes i bring is consider the role play donation($) or just part of donation. booker had problmes understanding. so i brought clothes with me and during meeting, i just ask dannie directly since it is her who will decide anyways and not booker what she feels comfortabel with and wat donation or extras ($) is. dannie tells me that wearing sexy clothes is part of donation even if i bring the sexy clothes or sexy costume to her to wear. if she has to act or pertend in the costume than the role play extra go in effect. if she tell me that her wearing sexy clothes/custome i bring is part of roleplay extra($), i would just keep the sexy clothes at home or leave it in my bag.
i just perfer dealing with indys more because if i have prfrence, depending on agency owner/booker, i say 90% time, my prfrence is not comunicated to ladys (ex: can she wear this/that?) i never ask anything explict since it "is for time only"
most ladys both pro and reg think they look nicer sans lunettes but without glases see all the time at work, at stores, at restrants, walking on streets/sidewalks, in public transport so sometimes wen i see a pro/sp, i just like the glasses look so mite ask, if u where contacts, can u put glasses on for our meeting?
i consider indy to be indy if she answers most if not all comunications. she can get help but her help (booking, driver, etc.) sould id himself/herself and not act like indy in email/sms/etc. there have been times wen i wrote to "indys" mensioning prferences and base on answers, i book time and then wen i meet the indy, she says she doesnt rember the comunications wich make me think i deal with booker in email/sms. wether this is true that she doesnt rember or wether someone else answerd my email pertending to be her.
everyoine has prfernces and i have delt with some agency owners/bookers where i mension something and ask if lady has prblems with it and then says no but did booker/owner actualy ask lady? i doubt it. i use to book would goodgirls or another agencys and ask a question to booker about ladys prference. once ask james since he is cool wenever i booked and he was working as booker for goodgirls, does the lady prfer not to see ------- (fill in description like short, fat, black, asian, indian, etc.) hobyists. he mensions no problems bud/friend. after a few times doing this, since james seemd cool, i ask him once if he ever actualy ask the lady and he mension for my paricular question, he actualy never asks.
once i brought sexy clothes for dannie from nadyas to whear in meeting and i want to know if wearing sexy clothes i bring is consider the role play donation($) or just part of donation. booker had problmes understanding. so i brought clothes with me and during meeting, i just ask dannie directly since it is her who will decide anyways and not booker what she feels comfortabel with and wat donation or extras ($) is. dannie tells me that wearing sexy clothes is part of donation even if i bring the sexy clothes or sexy costume to her to wear. if she has to act or pertend in the costume than the role play extra go in effect. if she tell me that her wearing sexy clothes/custome i bring is part of roleplay extra($), i would just keep the sexy clothes at home or leave it in my bag.
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