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What should agencies and Indies do to improve their incalls??????

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I can only conclude that the people posting here have not been to the Good Girls incall. If anyone is wondering why they won the 2013 MERB best agency poll by a 2-1 margin over agency #2, this thread gives you your answer.

In the case of not having bodywash AND clean towels, it was GoodGirls in fact. But this was about a year ago, so I'm guessing things may have improved since then.
 

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Dude, there is a shower there and when I got there I jumped in the shower and the girl joined me. After that I helped her put clean sheets on the bed. I really do not understand what is the matter with some of you guys. I sincerely believe that many posters on this board have terrible interpersonal communication skills, and it is reflected by the things they post.

EagerBeaver, if you're the one wasting your incall time changing the bedsheets when the SP/agency should have done that before you even got there, then something is terribly wrong. Even more wrong is that you're actually okay with it.
 

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I can only conclude that the people posting here have not been to the Good Girls incall. If anyone is wondering why they won the 2013 MERB best agency poll by a 2-1 margin over agency #2, this thread gives you your answer.

I only used GG in-call once. It was clean and they provide towels and body wash. Also, both of use showered before and after. However, I wish they stocked it with more things such as mouthwash and disposable cups etc (see my earlier post) and a docking station for music.

One more thing - I wish the girls were all wearing sexy clothing. A skin tight mini dress and heels or something equally sexy would be nice. Maybe if they put on a red robe like the Luomo girls of Rio or the Bar girls of Hong Kong or maybe if they changed into some lingerie and when they drop the robe there is some big reveal that would be nice. Those of you who were lucky enough to attend GG3 will know what I am talking about. Most of the girls were decked out to the 9's that evening. This made them irresistible. I want to do girls dressed like this!
 
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I'd also like to add the necessity of maintaining the cleanliness of the incall (*especially* the bed and bathroom). The incall tends to get mucked up with all the guys going through (grimy tub, water all over the floor, etc) at certain places. This also includes the other stuff mentioned before that relates to this (ie. clean sheets, towels, etc).
 

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EagerBeaver, if you're the one wasting your incall time changing the bedsheets when the SP/agency should have done that before you even got there, then something is terribly wrong. Even more wrong is that you're actually okay with it.

Nothing is wrong -it is called being proactive instead of being a fucking lazy ass complainer, and since I am not a cheap ass who is booking half hour appointments (usually I book 1.5 or 2) it is just chat time with the girl which has value to me- not everyone is "wham bam thank you ma'am" and out the door. What is WRONG is being a lazy ass complainer, a poor communicator who is unable to take control of the situation, and a fucking cheap ass, because generally those are the people who get poor service and complain later on without ever looking in the mirror or admitting the truth.

What you are paying for in an incall is sex and companionship, not maid service. You may get maid service, but don't expect it or grade it, because if you do, then you should be doing it yourself. You should consider that Good Girls incall is the same price as outcall less the driver fee ($220-$20=$200). What does that mean to anyone with half a brain? That means that the agency is entirely bearing the cost of the housing and cleaning WITHOUT A FUCKING PENNY FROM YOU. That means you are getting the room and all its amenities at no extra charge because it is the same $200 (less the $20 driver fee) you would be paying if the girl came to your hotel room or condo.

I really believe that the same people having these issues are the same people who needed to be told a thousand times by their parents to make their bed, and in adulthood they still don't do it. They did not make their beds, or wash their cars, or cut the grass, because there is always someone else who can do it for them. This is called the lazy mindset. It is not my mindset. It may be yours, but do not wish it on me.

In the case of not having bodywash AND clean towels, it was GoodGirls in fact.

Simply untrue. They had both. I agree with hungry101 that mouthwash should be provided as an amenity, but I brought my own and shared it with the girl, because I am proactive and prepared, so it did not matter.

There was also a refrigerator with a bottle of Coca Cola inside, but I did not have any.
 

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Look behind you.
GG is entirely bearing the cost of the housing and cleaning WITHOUT A FUCKING PENNY FROM YOU.

This is actually wrong as an incall girl sees more customers than outcall due to no drive time so him seeing the SP actually helps pay for the room.
 

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This is actually wrong as an incall girl sees more customers than outcall due to no drive time so him seeing the SP actually helps pay for the room.

This contains several assumptions that are not necessarily correct, namely that the incall girl will book out and that the outcall girl's shift is not lengthened to accomodate for drive time. If an outcall girl books out, she may work a longer shift to accomodate the extra drive time, because she needs the money from all the bookings. In that case there is no difference at all and the agency makes nothing more on the incall. And in fact that is what usually happens with bookout on outcall vs. bookouts on incall. The outcall girl does not work less, she works longer.

Your statement also fails to account for an incall girl only getting a few appointments or none at all. How is any of the cost of housing or cleaning and other overhead being paid for in that situation? The agency loses nothing when a girl sits in a car, but they do when she sits in a room, and both of these happen more than the bookout situation and are not made up for by the bookout situation. Bookouts are rare-they do happen, but probably 1 in 15-20 shifts.

So in all of these situations, you are wrong. And I think generally an incall girl does not see more clients than the outcall girl, she sees the same or less, otherwise none of the girls would want to work outcall. There is more demand for outcall. This is all common sense.

Some of the Good Girls who are working incall shifts come from well outside Montreal, and that is the reason for working incall. Not because she gets more appointments.
 

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Look behind you.
Also consider that the person seeing the SP is an incall person only so if he never saw her she would be waiting in a car with no income. Added: I only made one assumption, why do you state I made several?
I am sure Mike would not be doing incall if it is a money losing investment.
 

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Also consider that the person seeing the SP is an incall person only so if he never saw her she would be waiting in a car with no income. Added: I only made one assumption, why do you state I made several?
I am sure Mike would not be doing incall if it is a money losing investment.

You made three assumptions, that the incall girl and outcall girls work the same amount of hours in one shift, that the incall girl sees as many as the outcall in that shift, and that the outcall girl does not accomodate the number of the bookings by increasing the time of her shift. I can tell you that all of these assumptions are generally wrong. The outcall girls are also usually working longer shifts to begin with. They are also lengthening shifts on the fly to accomodate increased demand.

I do believe Mike is making money on the incall. He has a few condos, he has a good location, it is discreet and he runs it well. But he has a cost in renting those rooms and providing amenities and the cost is not paid for by increased bookings during the same time span as the outcall girl as you suggest. Mike is able to make money because he has a very large stable and he is always able to put bodies in those rooms. He probably pays the rent of one month with a week's work of bookings. Other agencies have girls that no show on a hotel room incall, while Mike is never having such worries.

One other situation you failed to account for is girls working mixed outcall and incall. Sometimes they will book a long outcall appointment as first of the day for a girl scheduled to work incall that day if the outcall is near the incall location. I know this because I booked one of the incall girls outcall as her 1st appointment. So that appointment counts towards incall or outcall? It is the same $200.
 

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Look behind you.
So after all you just said I was correct in my post #32
 

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Hi all
Nice debate EagerBeaver onlly a few questions where do you take your numbers from and what is your expertise from the inside of the escort industry?
Are they allegations or proven facts ?
Cheers all
 

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Nice debate EagerBeaver onlly a few questions where do you take your numbers from l

If you are asking about the bookout numbers, Good Girls is posting on MERB when a session is booked out and I am estimating based on their posts of the shift bookouts. That is where the 1 in 15-20 comes from. It is an estimate based on their own reporting on MERB. A lot of those bookouts are with girls working outcall.
 

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Simply untrue. They had both. I agree with hungry101 that mouthwash should be provided as an amenity, but I brought my own and shared it with the girl, because I am proactive and prepared, so it did not matter.

EagerBeaver, maybe it's never happened with you. But it *did* happen with me when I had an incall with Kate from Goodgirls downtown over a year ago. In fact, it was one of my big gripes with that appointment that day. Bodywash and clean towels should be a no-brainer when it comes to incalls.
 

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If you are asking about the bookout numbers, Good Girls is posting on MERB when a session is booked out and I am estimating based on their posts of the shift bookouts. That is where the 1 in 15-20 comes from. It is an estimate based on their own reporting on MERB. A lot of those bookouts are with girls working outcall.

Thank you for your honest answer EagerBeaver
There are allegations only rough estimates from posting .
Yo do not take in to consideration that fully booked means not available anymore for any purpose girl got sick,family problems the list goes on !
Marketing wise it definitely looks better to say fully booked don't you think .
I was myself inside this industry for 20 years I know the tricks of the trade
The main question is what can agencies or Indies do to improve there incall ??????
You are entitle to be a fan of GG it is your right
Good Day all
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Lily from Montreal

I would like to correct an misconception about incall, I agree that as far as agencies goes incall=the room is paid for as they spread the cost on ,as I read here many,many bookings...why you guys do not mind the feeling of partaking of a sex assembly line is beyond me but that's would be a subject for another thread...

What I want to make clear is if you meet an indy incall for most of them it does not meet that you do not pay for the room,it means you do not have to take care of the room...the nuance is important...I am always surprise when people assume meeting me incall will be cheaper then outcall? Why would that be the case?

My service is the same,only more investment in time as really, it is rare that the girl will meet you at her own place,I know I would never do,so as far or transport goes it is the same as a outcall meeting and going to a hotel for my meeting of the day or going to a apartment for said meeting is bonnet blanc et blanc bonnet...So why expect to pay less for more?

If someone knows a english equivalent of my french expression so EB can argue against my reasoning,please do provide one? Just teasing EB...
 

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HI all
and thank you LifeForYou for your valid and true explanation between the incall /outcall inner coast
The looks from the inside of the industry is way different then from the outside .Having a experiece Indy insight is always appreciated
Regards
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Lily from Montreal

Merci!I am quite bilingual but sometime my english fails me,mostly during the deed as I do not know what part of the brain is solicited but I lose my english in the middle of sex related activities ll
 
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