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When does time start/end? How do you view your time duration with a sp?

AHarper

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In this city nowadays....parking is a real hassle.When ever I go somewhere I have to factor in 30-45 mins extra just to find parking. I'm sure my fellow Merbites who frequent YPG have this issue, since St-Catherine is closed for pedestrian traffic. Coming back to the issue at hand.....I would assume that the clock starts ticking when she walks through the door......
 

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Me too and to add Taxi / Uber is very expensive.

My point is, if anyone is worried about parking, being late, etc, just Uber. And not for nothing, I Uber all the time when I’m in Montreal, it’s not that expensive. I’d rather pay $15 and be on time and have zero stress, rather than worry about being late, not being able to find a place to park, having to walk 10 blocks after parking, possibly have to pay to park, etc. Everyone has to do what’s right for them, but to me, if you’re going to spend 500-1000-1500, what’s another 15 to assure yourself little to no stress. ‍♂️
 

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My point is, if anyone is worried about parking, being late, etc, just Uber. And not for nothing, I Uber all the time when I’m in Montreal, it’s not that expensive. I’d rather pay $15 and be on time and have zero stress, rather than worry about being late, not being able to find a place to park, having to walk 10 blocks after parking, possibly have to pay to park, etc. Everyone has to do what’s right for them, but to me, if you’re going to spend 500-1000-1500, what’s another 15 to assure yourself little to no stress. ‍♂️
For me it is simple, I take the metro. No worries for parking. Each time I went to XO incalls, I took the metro. Never been late.
 
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The simple answer has already been covered. If you're on time then you've got an hour from when you walk through the door. Lateness on the part of either party not to be used to penalize the other, regardless of the cause. Having said that, there's a degree of reasonableness that comes with proper social lubricants as well. If the idea is to have a friendly, relaxed atmosphere and an enjoyable session then there are some assumed and unspoken realities to be observed. You may be on your time but if the lady is 2 steps into the door and you say "right, strip and get on knees" before you say "hello, how are you?" there's a problem, even if you are on paid time. There's an amount of courtesy and simple respect involved. Likewise at the other end you're not going to throw the lady out at 60 mins on the dot so she can finish dressing and putting her makeup on in the hallway of your hotel. A reasonable and not abusive amount of time on either end may be extended by either or both parties. I highly suspect that most clients can be taken care of easily, seemlessly, and without them even being aware of it within 60 mins if the lady is practiced so it's not a problem anyway, but the problem is that some of the expected social niceties come at the expense of the guy, not the lady. Your 60 minutes needs to encompass everything, not just the sex. Ladies who understand this and who make allowances to make sure that both the landing and the takeoff are smooth leave a better impression on their clients and get more repeat business. This may on occasion require an extra 5 minutes or whatever is reasonable, with the key word being reasonable, and totally being at the provider's discretion. Time management is important. Doubtless rapport impacts this as well. I will say that anyone who uses an alarm with me will never, ever see me for another session. There is nothing more dehumanizing or detrimental to the overall feeling of the session than to have a phone alarm go off and for a girl to immediately stand up and say you time is ended. There are much better ways to manage time and guide the client.
 

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I will say that anyone who uses an alarm with me will never, ever see me for another session.

Depends on the post alarm behaviour. I'm grateful for an alarm as I tend to lose total track of time and don't want to overstay. Similarly, I would imagine that in some cases the girl will lose track of time, and were it not for the alarm, it could get quite stressful for everyone.
I'd certainly rather an alarm than a clock watcher.
 

urquell

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Depends on the post alarm behaviour. I'm grateful for an alarm as I tend to lose total track of time and don't want to overstay. Similarly, I would imagine that in some cases the girl will lose track of time, and were it not for the alarm, it could get quite stressful for everyone.
I'd certainly rather an alarm than a clock watcher.

There are better, more diplomatic and tasteful ways than an alarm. For example, most men aren't averse to a little mood music. Having a music selection that lasts for a certain amount of time functions as an alarm. When the music is over then time is up. If the lady in question has a graceful exit phrase or two to go along with that then it's a much cleaner way to go. Having a variety of playlists to cater to musical tastes is easy and doesn't ruin the vibe. The client doesn't even have to know there's an alarm in this case. A xmas tree timer for a light is another way. There are others. That expression "good service is invisible" absolutely applies. Maybe even especially applies in this case. It doesn't have to be anything as jarring or as mood/ego killing as an audble alarm. This does put some extra onus of time management in the SP's hands, since if the client isn't aware then he needs to guided to a smooth takeoff at the end of the session, but the payoff is that he leaves feeling happier and more likely to rebook.
 

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There are better, more diplomatic and tasteful ways than an alarm. For example, most men aren't averse to a little mood music. Having a music selection that lasts for a certain amount of time functions as an alarm. When the music is over then time is up. If the lady in question has a graceful exit phrase or two to go along with that then it's a much cleaner way to go. Having a variety of playlists to cater to musical tastes is easy and doesn't ruin the vibe. The client doesn't even have to know there's an alarm in this case. A xmas tree timer for a light is another way. There are others. That expression "good service is invisible" absolutely applies. Maybe even especially applies in this case. It doesn't have to be anything as jarring or as mood/ego killing as an audble alarm. This does put some extra onus of time management in the SP's hands, since if the client isn't aware then he needs to guided to a smooth takeoff at the end of the session, but the payoff is that he leaves feeling happier and more likely to rebook.

Yeah, but what about all the guys here who arrive and give the SP's 40 orgasms? No way those ladies will notice something like music stopping if they're on orgasm #39.


(in all seriousness, your ideas are good)
 

urquell

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Yeah, but what about all the guys here who arrive and give the SP's 40 orgasms? No way those ladies will notice something like music stopping if they're on orgasm #39.


(in all seriousness, your ideas are good)

I'd love to take the credit, but they aren't my ideas. These are real world solutions used by some of the more forward thinking and classy SPs I've encountered. Usually just one of a series of personal touches used to ensure that clients are happy and comfortable, and that they return. It's never just one thing, but usually just a combination of little things that amount to great personal contact and customer service. This is just one thing, but for me it's an important thing. You've indicated that it's not a big deal for you, so probably doesn't matter, but maybe a bottle of water, or a hot towel, or a short message after the fact thanking you, or a minor compliment or whatever may be important and makes the difference. Small touches matter, and people who pay attention to the little details get rewarded.

Now, as to the 40 orgasm thing, that's a great example of the client paying attention to the little details that make the lady happy. If you give her 40 orgasms I guarantee that you're going to get rewarded too. Once she can walk again. lol
 

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If she has other people after you or if she shares the space with other people, she might not be able to stay longer if you’re late.

I recommend that you use public transportation or taxi so that you don’t have to deal with parking issues.

I normally give the general area to clients before the day of our appointment and I hope they’re looking it up on Google maps to see how the parking situation is.
I think it would be helpful to let your clients know it may be difficult to find parking in the area.

Some providers explicitly mention on their sites that parking is easily accessible (eg. South Shore).
 

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In all professional services i use in a year such as lawyer, notary, chiropractor, doctor, therapist, computer engineer, webmaster etc, i am on time for every one as i am always on time when seeing a lovely lady for a date.
Each one of those professionals provided adress with door access information and relative parking information in a message prior to the first meeting. (They rarely move so of course you get used to the location and only need to know this the first time)
They only mention upon further appointments if there is construction on their building or in the parking access or street in front.
Also every one of them start billing once i am in the door and inside their offices.
All have a cancellation fee and no 'late charges'
Also those that are in buildings with busy elevators or areas where you can only park a few blocks away, they schedule in a way that leaves time in between their appointments to avoid 'rushy meetings' if someone must wait 12 minutes before taking an elevator up, or whatever minutes to circle the block a few times, park & walk back around to the building.
In most business courses its among the 5 most mentioned things for a business owner to not only know their customers but to know their place of business like the back of their hand to facilitate their clients access to their location and render things as seamless and in as least steps as possible

Also you seem to have missed many points in my post because i never said i expect anyone to do anything, but simply said i appreciate those that do. I also never complain or say a word regarding this to the provider, i let them decide however they choose to do things. I don't need anyone to "hold my hand" or "assume i will struggle"
I also am never late, usually 4 to 20 minutes early in fact i am physically at the location and i text to ask where i can park or if there is visitor parking in their building parking lot. I realize that 4 to 20 minutes is not enough time, that i should arrive 30 minutes earlier just in case i must park blocks away.
But i appreciate your input
Is that what they teach you in business school? That’s why there is no correlation between having a successful business and having graduated from business school.

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill. This is a very simple problem. Just show up on time. It’s not the provider’s fault nor responsibility to be sure you are on time or to compensate you for your time lost when tardy.

Only if the provider is late should she be required to make it up to you. You mentioned several times you didn’t say anything when that happened. Well, you should. Any sensible business person would understand the reasoning. And if she didn’t, then she would not be worth your time in the future.
 

Halloween Mike

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Outcall is very simple because the time start when you open the door for her. You should be already showered yourself, she may ask for a 5m refresh wich is totally understandle especially in summer and beside that your time should go til 5 to 10 minutes before the end to let her time to shower again and get ready. 15 minute is a bit exagerating imo. 10 should be enough.

Incall : I noticed it seem to start mostly when you get the "ok" to get in. When you get the buzzer code and such and not when you pass the door as it should be. I mean you should be getting the code 2-3 minutes before the app time, especially when its on the 4th floor at the very end of a corridor with tons of doors. Im not joking there, last time i got to an incall building was huge and the unit was completely at the end of the corridor so add the elevator time plus all to get in, it took me many minutes.

In the case of the OP arriving 4m before time but having to park in MONTREAL wasn't a very smart move (mean no offense). Unless the SP has a dedicated parking you can use, you should had planned to arrive way ahead. Once i got to an incall 15 late because i lost myself on the way and yeah i lost the time, wich "sucked" but agency book tied between clients so they can't accomodate.

Now i always make sure to arrive a full 30 minute before my time. And when it comes to Xo especially i know well the route now so it ain't complicated. There is also a little nice park close by with a convenience store, so when its in summer or fall and its a sunny day, i just go there, buy myself a drink and chill there. I already said it and will say it again, incall always felt less personal and more of a "manufactured experience" if i can say so. It add extra stress. BUT since Covid the prices of hotels have risen up so much and since my downtown friend has moved away from there (i was lucky to be able to host multiple times at his home), incall do have a certain "convenience" in saving me 150$ ... Of course the experience is different from back then, where a Montreal trip would be "an event" in some ways. I would spend 2 days there, visit stores, and such. Last time i litterally arrived in Montreal, got to the incall, saw provider 1 then provider 2 right after, then back to catch my amigo express and return home.

Both providers were fantastic so it was still a great experience but it was less of a "vacation" for me like when i spend more time in the city. Anyway i digress.

in the case of a provider not being ready on time, then your time start when she is ready and its up to her or her agency to deal with delaying the other clients. Not your fault.
 
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I think it would be helpful to let your clients know it may be difficult to find parking in the area.

Some providers explicitly mention on their sites that parking is easily accessible (eg. South Shore).

My incall is in the best part of downtown for parking. Everyone tells me how easy it is to park but I don’t have a car so what do I know? It’s always best to Google it anyways because there might be events or something like that.
 
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urquell

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My incall is in the best part of downtown for parking. Everyone tells me how easy it is to park but I don’t have a car so what do I know? It’s always best to Google it anyways because there might be events or something like that.
Subtle. :D:D:D
 
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In my line of work, i deal constantly with clients being late for meetings, which throws off my schedual completly for the day. Unfortunatly, we are not allowed to charge clients for being late, if i could, i would haha.

To me, if your app was a 1pm and you are late, too bad, your time started at 1pm. If she is late, it should start when she shows up.

They are running a business, they have clients showing up at certain times or they have to be somewhere at a certain time. Time is money in that line of work. Clients have to be responsable for showing up on time.

I've met a couple that didn't look at the clock and it went over the paid hour, but that was because the conversation was flowing well. But that was her choice, not mine.
 
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As a respectful gentleman, I believe in allocating the first 15 minutes for introductions to establish a connection with the service provider and ensure their comfort. Being a gracious host, I aim to create a sociable atmosphere. Additionally, I allow the service provider the last 10 minutes to freshen up and respect their personal boundaries. This leaves a 35-minute window for the sexual encounter for the hour, for which I am appreciative. I have emphasized before and will reiterate that the key to a successful encounter is to take your time and connect with the service provider. It’s a simple process.
 
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It only happened once to me. I went for an outcall to a hotel in the west island. I text to say I arrived and tell me 10 minutes, after 15 minutes I get the room number, get in asks to clean up, ok fine. My appointment was at 8pm plus the 15 minutes so 8:15 and at 8:45 she says times almost up. i told her that I was in the room at 8:15 and she says the time started at 8pm and time is up. I was so pissed
 
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It only happened once to me. I went for an outcall to a hotel in the west island. I text to say I arrived and tell me 10 minutes, after 15 minutes I get the room number, get in asks to clean up, ok fine. My appointment was at 8pm plus the 15 minutes so 8:15 and at 8:45 she says times almost up. i told her that I was in the room at 8:15 and she says the time started at 8pm and time is up. I was so pissed

But you weren’t the one that was late
 
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